Originally posted by Nothingie:Well, I knew my friend since our secondary school days till now so I some sort quite close to him.
[b]Patience....
Though I m my gf's only bf, i had a hard time chasing her...
mainly b'cos she seen the pain tat her frenz went thru when thier relationship did not work out... esp when my guy fren broke up wif her gd fren... i sort of got 'labelled' as 'bad men' too...
but 1 thing i can tell u is tat juz keep ur faith & haf patience...
threatening to leave is not an option as it seems tat u r forcing her, so pls dun do tat...
time & effort is required.
PS: how come this kind of things always happen to 'our frenz'??? [/b]
Originally posted by bus:
Well, I knew my friend since our secondary school days till now so I some sort quite close to him.
I have some comments on this
1. Since my friend is going to be introduced to a new lady, why not open himself to more options? In this way, he can have a better choice as to who is more suitable to him rather than holding on to this case? Agree with me?
after reading so many of your post regarding your friend, I feel that your friend is a coward. Even though given a chance of a new lady he also can't get the girl. Problem is not on the girl, your friend just simply Kia Su.
2. From the hinting to leave incident, it can clearly tell that this lady is still concern about him or else she can't be bothered about him. Maybe she is hesitating about his sincerity but there MUST BE a
TIME FRAME for my friend to wait as he cannot wait for her forever right?
From the above does not clearly tell that the girl is concern, if the girl tell your friend to jump down will your friend do that? Come on if ever single words the girl say you guys like to take it as likes and concern then just go on waiting till white hair grows.
3. Sometime what a lady say we guy cannot take it 100% is what she meant. e.g A lady can say "she is not interested in a guy when the guy confess to her in the 1st place" but she might be seeing whether is this guy serious in her especially she is those that had seen/experience the PAIN herself resulting she cannot trust guys anymore.
If you friend can think so much, care so much but her what else can your friend give being a couple? More? what more? The girl seems to enjoy and had enough from your friend. If you guy keep think she is testing, and keep think of she is suffering it seems that she is "enjoying" this kind of feelings.
By telling you guy bad experiance once you won't want to mention to her about it and you will care and feel for her, and can't even ask for further. "She cannot trust guys" ha ha I think you guys trust her too much.
4. What is need is TIME, PATIENCE and CHANCE for the lady to get over herself and have faith in my friend to make things happened.
Agree, time but no patience.
If she is concern, she will know that if she likes you friend by keeping it inside herself make herself worst. What make her think that your friend won't leave? "She read your friend like an open book" If you use the words patience you are not doing it willingly you are not yourself but just to get what you wanted.
Still don't know why you guys so sure that she can't get over herself, yes she did tell your friend but if she really siad it once then never mention again so how you tell that she can't get over it?
If she keeps saying and saying then I don't think she can't get over it .
Yes, I agree by forcing her is no use at this time as it will make her even more vexed, frustrated over this incident.
Maybe a very short period of silence say every 2 to 3 days before SMS/Calling her to find out how thing is getting on for her will help?
Dear bus,
why your friend so worry? If he think the girl really cannot get over the bad experiance, at least half a year till few year won't find a bf lah. SMS and calling her for what? make sure he is in her mind or first one in her list? I believe your friend had done his best to prove already, don't be a fool.
If I am a girl, I know that every few days you will call me I won't miss you at all I know you won't run away.
example:
By just telling you I had been rape and I don't tust guys anymore, I know you won't ask me more about the incident, and you will at least stay by my side as and when I needed you.
solution :
react as and when you are wanted, without her you still have others you do not need to response to all her request. If your friend like to behave like a slave let him be , no point for you keep posting and make everybody guessing with you and think what the girl thinking.
Question:
What makes you so sure that your friend is the only guy?
Any other guys going after her?
she go out with her friends? with other guys?
just my 1 cents, sorry if I offended you.
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Originally posted by F.O.S:Hi, F.O.S. thanks for your valuable comments so far. well, just to let u know, the lady that my friend knows is not those young gals that U all think. She is in her early 30s and not much time left to be frank. My friend is also keen in settling down soon as he is not young either. she is old enough to think for her future and by this time, she still CANNOT so do, i think no one can help her.
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Having mutiple targets? imho, dun think it's a gd idea. The ger may think u r not sincere or u r 'hua xin'... then she may want a even longer time to observe.Originally posted by bus:Well, I knew my friend since our secondary school days till now so I some sort quite close to him.
I have some comments on this
1. Since my friend is going to be introduced to a new lady, why not open himself to more options? In this way, he can have a better choice as to who is more suitable to him rather than holding on to this case? Agree with me?
2. From the hinting to leave incident, it can clearly tell that this lady is still concern about him or else she can't be bothered about him. Maybe she is hesitating about his sincerity but there MUST BE a
TIME FRAME for my friend to wait as he cannot wait for her forever right?
3. Sometime what a lady say we guy cannot take it 100% is what she meant. e.g A lady can say "she is not interested in a guy when the guy confess to her in the 1st place" but she might be seeing whether is this guy serious in her especially she is those that had seen/experience the PAIN herself resulting she cannot trust guys anymore.
4. What is need is TIME, PATIENCE and CHANCE for the lady to get over herself and have faith in my friend to make things happened.
Yes, I agree by forcing her is no use at this time as it will make her even more vexed, frustrated over this incident.
Maybe a very short period of silence say every 2 to 3 days before SMS/Calling her to find out how thing is getting on for her will help?
She herself is not worry about age why you guys worry? If a girl like a guy she won't test such a long time, and everything the guy do the girl always can give themselve excuse that the guy is doing it for good. I think her behaviour she rather be single than torturing your friend for whole life. I agree that guys should put in affort but there is a limit, else be sure that you are so "nice" forever don't ever think that after you get her you can relax.Originally posted by bus:Getting along with a gal is just like getting along with your long term friends.... MUST have something common to bond the 2 together.
Well, I cannot help much but just to say a few word here
1. If this gal is spending her time testing my friend so as not to commit the same mistake she made many years back, then she is actually running into the danger of my friend leaving her if she keeps my friend waiting for too long. TIME FRAME. If she still behave like that in future, high chance she will remain single as I feel that no other guys can really accept this type of gal who refuse to commit and try to avoid RELATIONSHIP whenever a guy express "good feeling" for her. Sad to see this thing happen but it might really happen to her so long as she does not change her thinking.
2. Open up for more options is more appropriate for my friend to choose rather than sticking to this case.