What is your ideal age for retirement?

• lce

  29 Aug 14, 18:22

  history prevails - a riot every 30 years,

  the last 1 was in 1988

• Shorter ninja

  29 Aug 14, 18:23

  Originally posted by lce:

  the power still remains with Kostrad even with the new president so what can he do?

  
  He carry on eat bak kut teh and play along lor> hahaha
• Shorter ninja

  29 Aug 14, 18:24

  Last riot masterminded by Probowo in 1998
• zulkifli mahmood

  29 Aug 14, 18:27

  Originally posted by lce:

  the power still remains with Kostrad even with the new president so what can he do?

  
  ABRI is loyal to the President...Konstrad or Kompassus special forces unit are only a small force compared to ABRI..
• zulkifli mahmood

  29 Aug 14, 18:29

  Ice, I think you are referring to Aceh and Tim Tim (now Timur Laste) massacres?
• Shorter ninja

  29 Aug 14, 18:33

  I remember General Wiranto was able to put Prabowo on a short leash Prabowo was only Tiga Bintang
• zulkifli mahmood

  29 Aug 14, 18:37

  Originally posted by Shorter ninja:

  I remember General Wiranto was able to put Prabowo on a short leash
  Prabowo was only Tiga Bintang

  
  I think General Wiranto was abit a coward...he had the opportunity to become the president during Suharto downfall...and the one eye candidate became the President...
• zulkifli mahmood

  29 Aug 14, 18:38

  Have to go bro...talk to you later...
• Shorter ninja

  29 Aug 14, 18:41

  He played safe and besides people are sick of ex military people running that country Gusdur Tan Ah Beng had the support of the Islamic groups
• Shorter ninja

  29 Aug 14, 18:44

  Prabowo should retire,Nonoy Aquino should retire,Taksin should retire and Anwar should retire ....LKY I no comment
• lce

  29 Aug 14, 19:07

  Originally posted by zulkifli mahmood:

  
  ABRI is loyal to the President...Konstrad or Kompassus special forces unit are only a small force compared to ABRI..

  its not the size of the army. its who

• zulkifli mahmood

  31 Aug 14, 07:28

  Originally posted by lce:

  its not the size of the army. its who

  
  I know what you mean Ice but now the old era of Suharto or ex military generals being the president or being a dictator of Indonesia is bygone now. The President maximum term in office is only for 2 term, unlike in Singapore and Malaysia which seems like the PM can reign the country forever. Indonesia is more democratic and open if compare to Malaysia. Though it is a country with the most moslem population in the world, it does not declare itself as a Islamic state but a Secular state since sukarno era. One example is this, during fasting month, Moslems in Indonesia can eat and drink openly unlike in Malaysia, a moslem get caught doing that will go to jail. There is more freedom in Indonesia because is not govern base on Islamic law or Shariah law but a secular law which is call Pancasila.
• lce

  31 Aug 14, 09:51

  Originally posted by zulkifli mahmood:

  
  I know what you mean Ice but now the old era of Suharto or ex military generals being the president or being a dictator of Indonesia is bygone now. The President maximum term in office is only for 2 term, unlike in Singapore and Malaysia which seems like the PM can reign the country forever. Indonesia is more democratic and open if compare to Malaysia. Though it is a country with the most moslem population in the world, it does not declare itself as a Islamic state but a Secular state since sukarno era. One example is this, during fasting month, Moslems in Indonesia can eat and drink openly unlike in Malaysia, a moslem get caught doing that will go to jail. There is more freedom in Indonesia because is not govern base on Islamic law or Shariah law but a secular law which is call Pancasila.

  suharto roots r already too deep into the system. e.g. pertamina. , even bambang cannot control

  ppl from richer countries are more religious whereas poorer countries are not so.

  meaning - you need money in the pocket to be pious

• zulkifli mahmood

  1 Sep 14, 10:33

  Originally posted by lce:

  suharto roots r already too deep into the system. e.g. pertamina. , even bambang cannot control

  ppl from richer countries are more religious whereas poorer countries are not so.

  meaning - you need money in the pocket to be pious

  
  Ah...you are talking about Suharto's family/relatives/cronies. I don't know much what happen after his downfall during the 90s monetary crisis. The last time I heard about him was that he suppose to stand trial and then before his death the new government forgave him. His son was prosecuted for corruption...then I didn't follow the case. I think in whatever country you choose to retire is best not get involve with that country politics let them settle their own problems. Indonesia is a very nice country to retire as long you don't get involve with their politics you will be fine. About richer country are more religious/pious than poorer countries...you mean like City Harvest Church case in Singapore.
• zulkifli mahmood

  1 Sep 14, 10:42

  Originally posted by Shorter ninja:

  
  So many everywhere and all the ang mor trying to make a living doing that

  
  Bro, since you are able to speak Japanese excellently, why not become a tour guide for inbound Japanese tourists in Indonesia.
• zulkifli mahmood

  1 Sep 14, 10:48

  Originally posted by Shorter ninja:

  Kindergarten should be more like it
  Always follow where the money go

  
  Maybe you could even consider opening up an inbound tour agency in Indonesia especially for Japaneses tourists, plus off course you can also take in Singaporeans, Malaysians and other nationalities too in that business.
• zulkifli mahmood

  1 Sep 14, 10:52

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• zulkifli mahmood

  1 Sep 14, 10:55

  Originally posted by Shorter ninja:

  He played safe and besides people are sick of ex military people running that country
  Gusdur Tan Ah Beng had the support of the Islamic groups

  
  Yes, he was playing safe and yes Indonesians are sick of ex-military people running the country.
• zulkifli mahmood

  1 Sep 14, 11:04

  Originally posted by Shorter ninja:

  Again need to know people and I mean people who are armed with guns

  
  I went to the Philippines many times too...those people who owns firearm (besides the police or military personnel) are the drug dealers, gangsters and assassins....so don't get close to them.
• lce

  1 Sep 14, 11:47

  so far presidents from militrary background are doing better to the country than those not

• Shorter ninja

  2 Sep 14, 10:31

  Originally posted by zulkifli mahmood:

  
  I went to the Philippines many times too...those people who owns firearm (besides the police or military personnel) are the drug dealers, gangsters and assassins....so don't get close to them.

  
  Too late been there done that and as for being guide for inbound tourists well you know how the story went >hahaha
• Shorter ninja

  2 Sep 14, 10:33

  Originally posted by lce:

  so far presidents from militrary background are doing better to the country than those not

  
  Because they got rid of those who wanted to do better
• lce

  2 Sep 14, 12:47

  Originally posted by Shorter ninja:

  
  Because they got rid of those who wanted to do better

  singapore same same

• Shorter ninja

  2 Sep 14, 13:46

  One was exiled to Sentosa for many years now only the rich lives there The others migrated to places like USA ( land of the free?)
• lce

  2 Sep 14, 14:07

  sentosa was Pulau Belakang Mati

  "Death Behind" so wat do u expect?