Originally posted by Undiscoveredsoul98:i was born into muslim family and brought up the muslim way. but now, i have my own mind as an adult and im free to make decisions for myself. im not coverting to any religion. im not sure how its done, but my friend said she has colleagues who was muslims and converted to christian. i just wanted to officially declare that im a freethinking agnostic atheist. no religion, no god.
i dont think i should explain why i wanted to or why have i stopped believing. cuz all i need now is an answer to my question. not any preachings from believers. so please dont tell im goin to hell or whatever. no one decides im going to hell or heaven.
http://www.ica.gov.sg/nric/faq/FAQ_Website.htm
Says must pay them $60 to make the change.
But a waste of $$$ if U keep on changing your faith/ other particulars. Hope it isn't so simple to change one's name though, will make ones friends/ acquaintances very confused...
Luckily one's IC number cannot be changed...
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace
How nice if it were true... John Lennon was onto something.
The only difference now is what they will do to u when 6 die. If your ID says you are Muslim, they bury you. If not, they burn you
Theologically, when u do not believe the tenets of Islam, you are no longer a Muslim. The Muslims world will not collapse with your departure
No worries dor now. If u do not believe in Islam, you are no more a Muslim. Faith is determined by whatnyou believe, not what is written in your ID or if your families are Muslim.
U only need to inform MUIS if you do not wished to have your funeral rites the Islamic way.
Originally posted by Undiscoveredsoul98:i was born into muslim family and brought up the muslim way. but now, i have my own mind as an adult and im free to make decisions for myself. im not coverting to any religion. im not sure how its done, but my friend said she has colleagues who was muslims and converted to christian. i just wanted to officially declare that im a freethinking agnostic atheist. no religion, no god.
i dont think i should explain why i wanted to or why have i stopped believing. cuz all i need now is an answer to my question. not any preachings from believers. so please dont tell im goin to hell or whatever. no one decides im going to hell or heaven.
The mind always changes according to circumstances and situations please dont make hasty decisions wait for some time cause whats done cannot be undone ,later u might regret doing what u do now so take some time n look n relook in the mirror as its not an easy decision to change religion n other religions also they dont have to renounce u just learn or take time off n learn whatever religion u want and see what suits u.
Originally posted by Undiscoveredsoul98:i was born into muslim family and brought up the muslim way. but now, i have my own mind as an adult and im free to make decisions for myself. im not coverting to any religion. im not sure how its done, but my friend said she has colleagues who was muslims and converted to christian. i just wanted to officially declare that im a freethinking agnostic atheist. no religion, no god.
i dont think i should explain why i wanted to or why have i stopped believing. cuz all i need now is an answer to my question. not any preachings from believers. so please dont tell im goin to hell or whatever. no one decides im going to hell or heaven.
Summer hill that's the funniest comment I've read all day haha
Originally posted by digimonfan2008:Just want to ask, if I:
- don't feel like being part of any religion group
- don't like to pray to any specific god
- yet believe in and respect supernaturals, destiny, higher power and deities...etc.What am I? Not free thinker, right? What's that proper English word that describe me?
You are an Agnostic. A lot of people are Agnostic.
Atheist do not believe there's a higher power. No heaven no hell. Dead means kaput. No after life whatsoever.
Originally posted by zulkifli mahmood:
Currently you are using a Muslim name. If you really wish to erase your muslim identity then change your muslim name to a non-muslim name officially. Then apply a new ic with your new name. Singapore is a secular state, MUIS cannot do anything to stop you. Yes, they might send a letter to your home to advise you to contact them to seek counselling but you can also reject their offer.
Originally posted by jojobeach:You are an Agnostic. A lot of people are Agnostic.
Atheist do not believe there's a higher power. No heaven no hell. Dead means kaput. No after life whatsoever.
Originally posted by Huatah100:
Originally posted by digimonfan2008:Just want to ask, if I:
- don't feel like being part of any religion group
- don't like to pray to any specific god
- yet believe in and respect supernaturals, destiny, higher power and deities...etc.What am I? Not free thinker, right? What's that proper English word that describe me?
Originally posted by Shorter ninja:
Sebok lah kau Nanti aku sumbat baru tau!
You need not force your opinion on anyone.
If you are a Malay. Bear in mind that prior to Islamic influence in our region , Malays were of other faith/religions. That means your ancestors may not be Islamic.
You need to educate yourself before you insult your own ancestors.
There's translation tools online, and using your mother tongue to insult others only shame your own culture.
Originally posted by Shorter ninja:
You are fucked!!!
Apparently, you are one of zero substance.
You are only capable of mindless attacks, nothing else.
Its a waste your god gave you a brain.
Your mental capacity is limited, unable to logically and sensibly argue a cause.
Insults and name calling is a symptom of a weak mind.
Its best you leave intelligent discourse to the adults.
Originally posted by jojobeach:You need not force your opinion on anyone.
If you are a Malay. Bear in mind that prior to Islamic influence in our region , Malays were of other faith/religions. That means your ancestors may not be Islamic.
You need to educate yourself before you insult your own ancestors.
There's translation tools online, and using your mother tongue to insult others only shame your own culture.
Originally posted by Shorter ninja:
I speak several languages fluently but that does not make me a Malay , Thai or a Spanish dude for all you know my yellow backside is as fair as the color of your sad face.My ancestors were the earliest people to settle into Malacca from China unlike the sinkeks ,in modern times they would be known as FTs Also this is about TS,he is free to practice the religion of his choice in Singapore nevermind what others might say, he needs the right advice from people who knows exactly what his problem is and my brother Joe can assist him
Do the Malays a favor. Don't use their mother tongue to insult anyone.
If you need to bring shame to your own kind, use your own language.
What's the point of you using Malay to insult other than to prove how cowardly you are.
Also, nobody cares where your ancestors went before they plant themselves here. As long as you are a Chinese descent.. your ancestors came from CHINA.
It's ludicrous to claim you are different because your ancestors came here earlier than the rest of the local bred Chinese.
As for TS, you are correct it's his business, and his choice to believe any Abrahamic religion or not.
So stop with your low life insult on other forumers here.
Originally posted by jojobeach:Do the Malays a favor. Don't use their mother tongue to insult anyone.
If you need to bring shame to your own kind, use your own language.
What's the point of you using Malay to insult other than to prove how cowardly you are.
Also, nobody cares where your ancestors went before they plant themselves here. As long as you are a Chinese descent.. your ancestors came from CHINA.
It's ludicrous to claim you are different because your ancestors came here earlier than the rest of the local bred Chinese.
As for TS, you are correct it's his business, and his choice to believe any Abrahamic religion or not.
So stop with your low life insult on other forumers here.
Originally posted by Shorter ninja:
Don't you have house work to do as a W.I.F.E (wash,iron,fuck...etcetera )?
Again... is that all your puny mind can do?
I really feel sorry for your wife. She got a really lousy deal.
Tell her to go find a more intelligent man for husband. At least her children wouldn't be stupid.
Originally posted by Shorter ninja:‘abrahamic religion’ walaueh this term damn power one I would suggest your remove the ham from that name> hahaha
You remind me of my stupid Nigerian neighbor you likes to use bombastic descriptions to beat around the bush
I going to entertain myself in my chobolan time watching you release all your hate in here
Can't blame me for your own ignorance.
I'm educating you. No hate involved.
Originally posted by jojobeach:Again... is that all your puny mind can do?
I really feel sorry for your wife. She got a really lousy deal.
Tell her to go find a more intelligent man for husband. At least her children wouldn't be stupid.
Originally posted by Shorter ninja:
my wife don't have to do any household chores so Please do feel sorry for my maid because just like you the maid is the W.I.F.E
so you fuck your maid too ? Another of your brainless retort.
Do you even have a wife ?
Even I am getting bored with your low IQ postings.
Anything else ?
Originally posted by jojobeach:so you fuck your maid too ? Another of your brainless retort.
Do you even have a wife ?
Even I am getting bored with your low IQ postings.
Anything else ?
Originally posted by Shorter ninja:
I thought you said you don't bring hate in the forum and did I ever make a statutory declaration here that I fuck anybody else besides my wife? You really a siow aunty ar!
Your maid lor. She's your W.I.F.E.
Now you want to back paddle ah.. not a smart move lah.
You're very stupid leh.. go away lah. You're bringing down the IQ average in this forum.
Where's your wife ? she's probably having a good time with your smarter Nigerian neighbor lah. Can't blame her you know.