Do you find it hard to click with hardcore Christian people?
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already have. dun forgot who went around firebombing mosques in retaliation in indonesia hor.Originally posted by Jazzytunez:I respect their value but i don't like to talk to them.....
Don't u think those hardcore christian if slightly more franatic...... abit like those islamic terrorist mah? i don't wan to offend them loh... -
same, i see hardcore buddhists, hindus, muslims i will step on their toes...
but dont have.... -
Originally posted by dibilo:
Remind me of Nazi....
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Originally posted by dibilo:
And why are they doing these? is there person a god???
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I was thinking...
1) The Photo... these aint jus hardcores rite?
2) Can we compare this w some other 'Cult' gatherings?
3) ok la... mayb jus their way of expressing something...
4) these people jus got nothing better to do...
5)yawnnn.....i got better things to do than do know wat they r doin... -
Originally posted by NuLife:But i hav to say...
any religion/faith tat promotes 'good thinkings/feeling/etc'
such as love, respect, peace etc etc
... r very good.
good for the mind n soul.. if one choose to believe.
but to say tat 'God created bla bla bla...'
...to me... it really nonsensical...
esp if u consider how the scientific research community works...
w millions of papers published
n numerous top brains trying to qualify n quatify each paper...
Jus look the mobile phones and internet.
Will u hav tot that all these r believable 20yrs ago?
By the same thinking, invention of language, culture, civilisation,
is also unbeleivable in the stone age.
Of cos theres e dinosaurs, big bang, etc...
n their endless research...
Its crazy to say tat 'A small Bible cud explain all these'..or
'god created... all these...' ...
seems like u think science challenges religious faith. But i wonder y einstein is a jew and isacc newton wrote a commentaries on the bks in the bible? Maybe becoz their time no moblie phones n internet. -
walau, really too tired liao, actually post my reply inside the quote...i think i go slp liao. but before i go, just wana say all my posts just some personal views, not my intend to start any flaming.if i offended any1, sry.gd nite(morning)
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Shit, I say OMG all the time, infact, I have variations like OMFG, OMGWTF, WTFOMG. OMGOMGOMGWTFLOL LMFAO.Originally posted by MrPaul:no offense,I'm a christian and i dont like ppl going ard using the 'oh my god', but i dun do anything to stop them coz i respect their right to do watever they want.I think tat there will be quite a few christians who feel the same way as me................or is it just me?
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May God bless you and pray that one of these day we will all see the light.Originally posted by the.raven:Shit, I say OMG all the time, infact, I have variations like OMFG, OMGWTF, WTFOMG. OMGOMGOMGWTFLOL LMFAO.
what you gonna do? speak 1337 to me?
Remember we are all imperfect, including the Christian. -
its very selfish to say that only certain god creates this world n not believing in certain god will go to hell...
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Really? My best is OFCMFJWTF!Originally posted by the.raven:Shit, I say OMG all the time, infact, I have variations like OMFG, OMGWTF, WTFOMG. OMGOMGOMGWTFLOL LMFAO.
what you gonna do? speak 1337 to me?
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I absoultely agree with you.. though I don't hate hardcore Christians but I find their way of life amusing...Originally posted by NuLife:They r pethetic losers...
Theres many views/incidents i can share:
1)Im starting to find that these esp happen ONLY in singapore...
tat some people believe in christainity bcos of its
'association w western culture n class n rich'
N i believe such association mayb subconcious to them..
which i also find it e reason why many gals/women become christains too..
I discussed w frens n many think e same way.
Usually thos who were born a christain r alrite...
its thos who join later, some r what i consider...
'blind/fake believer' or 'lost souls'... heee
2) During a frens wedding, whos a christain,
jus b4 the real dinner, they were having some ceremony
doin someting lik wat the was in picture sent earlier,
w the couple kneeing n some people behind w hand stretched out
w their palms on the couple, n chantg some 'bla bla'...
Everyone atmy table.. mostly engineers, who r generally freethinkers,
immediately walked out... find it too ridiculous... haaa
no need to respect.. since such act infront of us,
r also lik disrespect in a way...
esp also w all thos singing of christains songs w lyrics on table..
expect everyone to follow... nuts..
3) I had had encounters w some former colleagues
who r hardcore christains... n everyone else simply
find them irritating n distant from them.
one was so crazy to argue the scientific theory of
evoulution is untrue...haaaa...
Another time, we were talking abt gays,
n i jokingly said tat gays even exist in animals...
n he went on to email to national geographic to persue
his own belief tat god said otherwise...etc etc... nuts...
4)sometime back, thes also once a group of christians who
went knocking on every door in my block n sent fliers on church events...
i personally find it way too reidiculous n irritating...
sending fliers is bad enuf, do they hav to knock on every door!!!!?!?!
5)My mum's fren complain abt her daughter praying
during dinner 'To thank God for giving her food'.
But e mum retorted 'its HER MUM, that gave her food' not God...haaaa;p
6)Well, if believing tat GOD exist is a religion,
then NOT believing itself is a religion.
Thus FreeThinker/Atheist = A religion.
So Christains better respect OUR belief.
Thus telling me/us : 'Hey, there is GOD'
is lik we telling christains that: 'Hey, There is no God la' ?!?!
So christains, dun go around telling people to believe in wat u believe.
Keep them to urself... cos most find it SICKENING!!!
7)Few reasons I do not like abt Singapore:
a)National Service
b)Hot Weather
c)High living expenses, price of car
d)Society littered w many christians tat associate
christianity w class/western culture
+ Sickening Hardcore Christians
I have this friend, his parents are of another religion, of which I do not want to say, this friend, by the way happens to be Christian, a hardcore one at that.. he prays for more than 5 mins for his food, never see him scold vulgarities (because it's a sin), never got angry when people insulted him, and the worst, he does not ever jaywalk, and make 10 over people waiting for him for about 10 mins for him to walk to a very far away traffic light... he said he does not sin because he don't want to go to hell... but the worst thing is that he kept lying to his parents.. he never told his parents about his new belieft and continue to pray to the gods of his religion when told to.. he is committing two sins.. lying and praying to other gods... so hyprocrite... anyway... hiaz... some Christians are just way too funny.. I wonder what good will it do if I just blindly follow what a book tells me... hell, I don't even give a damn what my parents tell me, I just do whatever I like and I think that's how life should be... after all, you only live once.. who cares about sins and hell.... -
Saying "oh my god" is very common and poitically correct. First, MY god is not YOUR god. If a christian say tat, then u should be offended. If someone else says tat, it is okie, as it has nothing to do with u. There r many different gods in the world Muslims, jews and some idol worshiping have their own god. Why do u think they have to be talking about your god ?
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Secondly, before believing in a religion, we first have to see if it is true or not. No point giving your emotion to an imaginary friend tat never exists. How we check is by seeing if the events tat had been described to happen had really happen or not. These can be quantified and thus verified. Tat is why scientific and logic have to come into the picture. Otherwise it just show people joining the religion due to impulse or not thinking rationally.
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stupidissmart saves the day!
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hey I have one catholic friend who fits the description. He tells me that whatever happens to him is "God's Will" and he only listens to godOriginally posted by thoughts123:The Apostle Paul says in the Bible that we are at peace with men, we are also at peace with God. The existence of such hardcore Christian people is the fact that God gives everyone the free will to proprogate what we believe.
However, some of my Christian friends belongs to the super hardcore group who waits for the Lord's direction in whatever they do. Sometimes, i need to speak reality and common senses to them.
Generally, they are still people who you can befriend, but they are certainly not the group of people you can trust.
Btw, Is saying OMG considered using God's name in Vain? I dont think so right? More likely those that uses God's name in vain are ppl like Father Kang from you know what church...ask ppl for money in the name of God and put money into his own account. -
Oh I have seen hardcore buddhists who are a lot worse than the most hardcore Christian you will ever seen.Originally posted by laurence82:same, i see hardcore buddhists, hindus, muslims i will step on their toes...
but dont have....
There is this group. I won't mention name. The building is white white one. Got some branches in Singapore. They are very strict vegetarians and they expect everyone else to respect them and not to take meat in their presence.
They send their members overseas to preach buddhism, usually to Christian countries in Europe, Australia and America. They encourage abandoning families here to 'preach the message'. Once I was at a friend's place, her family was suffering because her sister ran away suddenly to an undeveloped country. She was sent by the religion. So the mother cursed this buddhist group for brainwashing her elder daughter like that. Then on the night when I visited my friend, the whole bunch was these buddhist extremists came to visit and started telling my friend's mom that her elder daughter was doing the right thing, doing god's works blah blah blah.
In the end, my friend's parents were upset and my friend has to literally chase them out of the house. She tried reporting to police. But this group did not do anything illegal. So mata don't chap.
Maybe I should start a topic on this hor? Then maybe aloka will continue to post his buddha blah blah blah text (copy and paste from some website only. Nothing original). -
What do you mean by a religion is not true? U mean whether the teachings are true or not? All teachings of religion are good and beneficial to mankind.Originally posted by stupidissmart:Secondly, before believing in a religion, we first have to see if it is true or not. No point giving your emotion to an imaginary friend tat never exists. How we check is by seeing if the events tat had been described to happen had really happen or not. These can be quantified and thus verified. Tat is why scientific and logic have to come into the picture. Otherwise it just show people joining the religion due to impulse or not thinking rationally. -
Amazingly, I have some dumb friends who believe in this BS. They actually believe in things like" if you dont accept jesus as your saviour, you will go to hell". thats full of shit. And its never fails to amaze me that some youths are joining churches nowadays is because of this statement made by their christian friends. Where is the logic and common sense when you need it???Originally posted by confused?_?:its very selfish to say that only certain god creates this world n not believing in certain god will go to hell... -
I agree with the stories, even know of some controversial (not hardcore) form of Buddhism.Originally posted by Honeybunz:Oh I have seen hardcore buddhists who are a lot worse than the most hardcore Christian you will ever seen.
There is this group. I won't mention name. The building is white white one. Got some branches in Singapore. They are very strict vegetarians and they expect everyone else to respect them and not to take meat in their presence.
They send their members overseas to preach buddhism, usually to Christian countries in Europe, Australia and America. They encourage abandoning families here to 'preach the message'. Once I was at a friend's place, her family was suffering because her sister ran away suddenly to an undeveloped country. She was sent by the religion. So the mother cursed this buddhist group for brainwashing her elder daughter like that. Then on the night when I visited my friend, the whole bunch was these buddhist extremists came to visit and started telling my friend's mom that her elder daughter was doing the right thing, doing god's works blah blah blah.
In the end, my friend's parents were upset and my friend has to literally chase them out of the house. She tried reporting to police. But this group did not do anything illegal. So mata don't chap.
Maybe I should start a topic on this hor? Then maybe aloka will continue to post his buddha blah blah blah text (copy and paste from some website only. Nothing original).
But whats with aloka posting his 'buddha blah blah blah'. Because its Buddhist text which u dont like, or its because he state things without arguing?
Wonder who was the one who started this rather childish topic which implicitly flame our ancestors who believe in Buddhism, Taoism and ancient folklore? -
oh that well... basically most ppl not used to seeing praying over. actually most christians save for CHC christians not used to seeing live projected praying overOriginally posted by dibilo:
scary.........
praying over is praying for that person/ppl by stretch out your arms to his/her their general direction. i think it is generally practised by most christians, traditional or charismatic.
in this photo, the intention of this to comfort the person who may been troubled or down etc... christians believe that through the power of God, who hears their prayers would actually comfort the person. Of course friends are also asked to comfrot her lah... like that....
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Today I met the same person at a food centre whom I met before on the bus asking whether I believe in God.
Is that counted as hardcore? I still remember her telling me that believing in God will get eternal life.
I have some friends and some cousins who are Christians. One of my friends goes to church very often yet she does not keep on talking about all these things except when we have some things to clarify with her. Wonder what makes some of the Christians do that, keep pestering passer-bys by asking them about their religions. -
actually, every religion has hardcore ppl... be it christiainity, taoism or islam, there will always be these kind of people who totally damaged their religion reputation.
I always believed that having a religion is just to have someone to comfort your mind when you are in deep trouble.
For example, I always go to si bei rou to pray to the Goddness of Mercy when I have exams, troubles etc... even though deep down, I knew it's my efforts that really counts but it gives me peace when I knew that she will watch over me and give me the strength that I needed for me to 'stay alive'... it is just that.. I don't believe that by doing good deeds and not eating meat, I will go to heaven, I do good deeds like dontating money because I feel that these people needs our help... so I help... I can't go without meat so don't ever expect me to go vegetarian...
to tell the truth, actually, I don't believe in ghosts and such even though my religion says that are such things.. if there were really ghosts, than all murderers should have already been caught or scared to death.... religion is to give a peace of mind.. if people thinks that by following blindly, they can go to heaven, by all means do so.. but that does not gives them the right to burn people at stake, start religious wars just because people have different views from them... and then pushed all the blame to their god... telling people it is god who wants them to do such things.. oh please, get a life... if there is really hell, den there is no doubt these people will be going... -
goodday everyone
sad to see another fruitless discussion