Do you find it hard to click with hardcore Christian people?
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Aspects of LOVE.....cant be explained by logic,reasoning,science?Originally posted by laurence82:in anyway, i agree with mrpaul in the sense, religion is about faith, not by scientific or logical argument.
altho it sounds nonsensical to many 'logical' and 'scientific' people, we must be reminded that we are afterall humans. even trying to argue logically about stuff requires perspectives and beliefs, invoking our feelings and emotions too.
similarly, religion is about emotions, feelings, faith, self reasoning...not some universal truth, science, logic....
hmmm....after all, logic n reasoning r limited by time and space which is also part of creation.anyway, i meant to use creation as a general term to refer to 'things' coz i know some ppl dun believe in creation.
anyway, was just smthing tat popped into my head, maybe flawed.
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for this part i would include the words 'attempt to explain'...Originally posted by MrPaul:Aspects of LOVE.....cant be explained by logic,reasoning,science?
hmmm....after all, logic n reasoning r limited by time and space which is also part of creation.anyway, i meant to use creation as a general term to refer to 'things' coz i know some ppl dun believe in creation.
anyway, was just smthing tat popped into my head, maybe flawed. 
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muahahaha. who har?Originally posted by laurence82:that would be classified under psychowassit..
hey btw where is our mr psychowassit he haben appear for long time...
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maybe. then perhaps nothing to do wif religion liao.hahahahaha.i look so stupid now.Originally posted by laurence82:that would be classified under psychowassit..
hey btw where is our mr psychowassit he haben appear for long time... 
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mr gedankenOriginally posted by HENG@:muahahaha. who har? -
Oh, i was refering to love, something ppl wuld agree to be REAL to be somehow similar to god, cant be explained by logic,reasoning blah blah blah....a bit tired so type until lidat. but dun really know wat u mean by that, english not very gd but nvm.Originally posted by laurence82:for this part i would include the words 'attempt to explain'... -
yup... i do... infact i find them very annoying
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Do u find it hard to click with hardcore ppl? i find it hard to click wif hardcore ppl of any kind unless of same interest, believes or way of doing things.
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wow, extreme post, but i onli agree with the above part..Originally posted by NuLife:Usually thos who were born a christain r alrite...
its thos who join later, some r what i consider...
'blind/fake believer' or 'lost souls'... heee
in a way, some of the newcomers i seen joined due to influence, more like an adoption of western culture than true belief in god..and others do not understand whats christianity really all abt... -
i mean MY english not very gd.not ur post. sry ar, really a bit tired liao.Originally posted by laurence82:for this part i would include the words 'attempt to explain'... -
hes ok mah? he just can't stand fools. neither can i. why u think i always wanna cut u up?Originally posted by laurence82:mr gedanken
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...........................................................................................!Originally posted by HENG@:hes ok mah? he just can't stand fools. neither can i. why u think i always wanna cut u up? -
no i am a hardcore fan of F1 but ppl can click with meOriginally posted by MrPaul:Do u find it hard to click with hardcore ppl? i find it hard to click wif hardcore ppl of any kind unless of same interest, believes or way of doing things. -
cheersOriginally posted by NuLife:They r pethetic losers...
Theres many views/incidents i can share:
1)Im starting to find that these esp happen ONLY in singapore...
tat some people believe in christainity bcos of its
'association w western culture n class n rich'
N i believe such association mayb subconcious to them..
which i also find it e reason why many gals/women become christains too..
I discussed w frens n many think e same way.
Usually thos who were born a christain r alrite...
its thos who join later, some r what i consider...
'blind/fake believer' or 'lost souls'... heee
2) During a frens wedding, whos a christain,
jus b4 the real dinner, they were having some ceremony
doin someting lik wat the was in picture sent earlier,
w the couple kneeing n some people behind w hand stretched out
w their palms on the couple, n chantg some 'bla bla'...
Everyone atmy table.. mostly engineers, who r generally freethinkers,
immediately walked out... find it too ridiculous... haaa
no need to respect.. since such act infront of us,
r also lik disrespect in a way...
esp also w all thos singing of christains songs w lyrics on table..
expect everyone to follow... nuts..
3) I had had encounters w some former colleagues
who r hardcore christains... n everyone else simply
find them irritating n distant from them.
one was so crazy to argue the scientific theory of
evoulution is untrue...haaaa...
Another time, we were talking abt gays,
n i jokingly said tat gays even exist in animals...
n he went on to email to national geographic to persue
his own belief tat god said otherwise...etc etc... nuts...
4)sometime back, thes also once a group of christians who
went knocking on every door in my block n sent fliers on church events...
i personally find it way too reidiculous n irritating...
sending fliers is bad enuf, do they hav to knock on every door!!!!?!?!
5)My mum's fren complain abt her daughter praying
during dinner 'To thank God for giving her food'.
But e mum retorted 'its HER MUM, that gave her food' not God...haaaa;p
6)Well, if believing tat GOD exist is a religion,
then NOT believing itself is a religion.
Thus FreeThinker/Atheist = A religion.
So Christains better respect OUR belief.
Thus telling me/us : 'Hey, there is GOD'
is lik we telling christains that: 'Hey, There is no God la' ?!?!
So christains, dun go around telling people to believe in wat u believe.
Keep them to urself... cos most find it SICKENING!!!
7)Few reasons I do not like abt Singapore:
a)National Service
b)Hot Weather
c)High living expenses, price of car
d)Society littered w many christians tat associate
christianity w class/western culture
+ Sickening Hardcore Christians -
Originally posted by laurence82:...........................................................................................!
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Unless i find myself talking to people who share the same interest then we can talk alot on the topic (consider hardcore anot?) but for those hardcore religious people, i have to tread softly on their toes....
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Originally posted by HENG@:
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Why must tread softly on their toes?Originally posted by Jazzytunez:Unless i find myself talking to people who share the same interest then we can talk alot on the topic (consider hardcore anot?) but for those hardcore religious people, i have to tread softly on their toes....
Dont give them face, like what nulife described. -
...haa... ok la...
my post n view abit extreme....hee
cos im hardcore freethinker/atheist...
but only in the presence face of hardcore christians..
n many incidents in my past companies
always include hardcore christains...
who created alot of problems for
everyone else in the companies...
all views r welcome rite?... its jus my views... -
I respect their value but i don't like to talk to them.....
Don't u think those hardcore christian if slightly more franatic...... abit like those islamic terrorist mah? i don't wan to offend them loh... -
But i hav to say...
any religion/faith tat promotes 'good thinkings/feeling/etc'
such as love, respect, peace etc etc
... r very good.
good for the mind n soul.. if one choose to believe.
but to say tat 'God created bla bla bla...'
...to me... it really nonsensical...
esp if u consider how the scientific research community works...
w millions of papers published
n numerous top brains trying to qualify n quatify each paper...
Jus look the mobile phones and internet.
Will u hav tot that all these r believable 20yrs ago?
By the same thinking, invention of language, culture, civilisation,
is also unbeleivable in the stone age.
Of cos theres e dinosaurs, big bang, etc...
n their endless research...
Its crazy to say tat 'A small Bible cud explain all these'..or
'god created... all these...' ... -
actually a lot of ppl feel the same way as u wat. although some stuff i dun agree but wuld be too troublesome(n boring to some) to explain here. but if my friends brings up stuff lidat this in front of me then i will discuss wif them wat i feel. anyway, just hope no hardcore christian come in n start flame war.if tat happensi can only say this................>>>walau,not againOriginally posted by NuLife:...haa... ok la...
my post n view abit extreme....hee
cos im hardcore freethinker/atheist...
but only in the presence face of hardcore christians..
n many incidents in my past companies
always include hardcore christains...
who created alot of problems for
everyone else in the companies...
all views r welcome rite?... its jus my views... -
got hardcore xtians, but they fought until nowhere liao..
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y softly? step hard! HARD! better still take a hoe n chop them toes off!!! WAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!Originally posted by Jazzytunez:Unless i find myself talking to people who share the same interest then we can talk alot on the topic (consider hardcore anot?) but for those hardcore religious people, i have to tread softly on their toes.... -
Definitely. Good thinking.Originally posted by Jazzytunez:I respect their value but i don't like to talk to them.....
Don't u think those hardcore christian if slightly more franatic...... abit like those islamic terrorist mah? i don't wan to offend them loh...
I think we can assoc: hardcore christians = mental patients...haa
ok i think they r usually 'lost/aimless souls'
Here a simliar tot from my other post, w a twist...hee:
I think whole christian/bible argument is a boooooorrrrre........
alwaya endless w the aimless lost chrsitians,
whose brain cannot understand anything more than
simple secondary logical maths n science....
so they choose to believe something tat is
more easily understood by them:
Bible, something that is illogical...heee...
Written by someone smarter than Osama,
who can 'control' fellow human thinkings thru beliefs etc...
n do sacrifices in the name of ???... haaa
but of cos, i guess the bible was written for a good cause..
...Well, cant expect everyone to understand
even a scientific research paper....
let alone the scientific community w their millions of
reseach papers n works...