Originally posted by John Wong:There's plenty of sex going on la, just not baby making sex.
Really ? Where ? In your imagination ? Sure.
Then must be SG men sperm not good swimmers lah...lame sperms lor.
get rid of women chapter first before doing any of those
Originally posted by jojobeach:Really ? Where ? In your imagination ? Sure.
Then must be SG men sperm not good swimmers lah...lame sperms lor.
What are you talking about?!
jojo u know he is ridiculous... u sure u wanna drop to his level by feeding this troll?
Originally posted by John Wong:What are you talking about?!
Say... Are u a virgin ?
Are u allowed to watch R movies yet?
I don't want to discuss these sorta stuff with an underaged kid leh...
Originally posted by [imdestinyz]:jojo u know he is ridiculous... u sure u wanna drop to his level by feeding this troll?
Of cors I know he is ridiculous lah.. So obvious. I think he only 10 years old lah.
Trolling a troll is good for passing time in the office lah.
this guys is stupig. say woman but forget his marler also woman. istill fantaisiing about his marler and sisters and galfrens not fully wrapped up.
Originally posted by jojobeach:Say... Are u a virgin ?
Are u allowed to watch R movies yet?
I don't want to discuss these sorta stuff with an underaged kid leh...
My age / sex / nationality quite important to you hor?
Take it as I am 30 yr old Singapore woman can?
Originally posted by troublemaker2005:this guys is stupig. say woman but forget his marler also woman. istill fantaisiing about his marler and sisters and galfrens not fully wrapped up.
He going through puberty lah. U never went through it before meh?
Have some empathy lor.... Male hormone ravaging his brain now.
Originally posted by John Wong:My age / sex / nationality quite important to you hor?
Take it as I am 30 yr old Singapore woman can?
No, actually I am most interested in your virginity.
Originally posted by jojobeach:No, actually I am most interested in your virginity.
stay away devil woman!
Originally posted by John Wong:stay away devil woman!
ya you shld stay away... cause you are the devil to the women.
Originally posted by [imdestinyz]:
ya you shld stay away... cause you are the devil to the women.
i take v good care of my women
So am I right to assume that... ALL SG men wants to get married ?
Does it matter the quality of woman they marry ? Or any woman with a vagina will suffice ?
Ugly, fat, handicapped, mentally abonormal, lazy, diseased... all you guys will take ??
REALLY ??
Originally posted by jojobeach:
So am I right to assume that... ALL SG men wants to get married ?
Does it matter the quality of woman they marry ? Or any woman with a vagina will suffice ?
Ugly, fat, handicapped, mentally abonormal, lazy, diseased... all you guys will take ??
REALLY ??
jojo, of course not. but please try to open your brain a bit to see more path.
you see, to have children is mostly the woman choice.
why?
because the woman body is the one that carry the baby for 9 month and give birth.
For example, if a guy say, woman, let me put baby in your stomach, when woman say no, bopian. cos woman will think, who is this guy, will he take care of me, got money to take care of me and baby, got money send baby to yale or harvard, got money pay for international school, can he afford condo or landed property, etc etc...
on the other hand. if woman say boy... come put sperm in me... most guys will say... OK!
or should I say, if woman want baby, they can also just go sperm bank and ejaculate into themself.
Originally posted by jojobeach:Really ? You think by stimatising women this way, all the women will start running into the street , grab any Tom dick or Harry , get married and have children ? really ?
Epic fail.
Well, it didn't work in India, ain't gonna work here dude.
Why don't we stigmatize all men who refuse to take care of their baby, instead ask their girlfriend to go abort ?
Force men to marry the pregnant girlfriend or go to jail plus big fat fine ?
Will that solve the problem ?
Stimatising is wrong. Please throw your stupid idea out the window.
Instead of forcing women to mate with you, why don't u just make yourself more attractive to women ? Lazy isn't an excuse, Mr Caveman.
it "worked" in india, in a bad way but it worked. it created a society where women were forced to get married. and despite being beaten/burned/scolded/raped in the marriage they still find it a better alternative.
Originally posted by jojobeach:Well, calling them names doesn't do much. Labeling is useless. Yet, Every year we lost hundreds or thousands to abortion. They could just marry the girls they impregnate. Problem solved ?
Anyway.. U haven't answer my question, why don't men make themselves more attractive to women, so more women WANT to marry men ?
Is it so difficult for men to step up and show they are worth their keeps?
Sure, guys go ahead and stigmatize women, call them names, spit in their face. That's men's prerogative to force women to marry them? How backwards can u be?
And u forgetting half the world is women, do u expect women to stigmatize ourselves? U must be nuts. Why don't u cut your own nose Mr. Wong.
If you are really for having more babies for our society, why not fight for better rights and inclusion for single mothers ? These women were used by men, abandoned and left to fend for themselves , they choose to be pro life, yet they were punished by our society. May I know what will be your solution on this issue?
Then what about women who Can't have babies? Do u want to stigmatize them too?
when a girl goes for an abortion, usually she or her family think that they can't afford to have the baby, maybe financially or the girl thinks it'll be better for the relationship?
beyond those reasons, I can only say the girl's taken advantage off? it's a situation unlikely to lead to marriage, or a stable marriage. even if you force it through.
don't blame the guys on this one. I always advocate the girls should take care of themselves. The ladies in question might have gone pro life(I'm pro choice so maybe same thing here? maybe not?)
but you need to remember, society is not punishing her for being pro-life, but their life choices. you don't see the same treatment for married ladies do you?
fact remains , she didn't protect herself. she thinks it's love and it's a modern society when she wants to do it.
if you think more about it, it's the same situation as when some old lady gets conned into buying magic stones that cures illnesses. then society labels them old dumb and senile.
personally I feel that something has to be done for single mothers but my stand aligns with the govt on some point. the subsidies were there to encourage marriage and a "wholesome" family
so that arguement will not work if someone thinks like me. it's not punishment, it's a "reward" that they don't, frankly speaking qualify for.
beyond sercuring housing for them. anything else would be punishing the rest of society for their hour of fun.
I rather the govt jail the fathers and make them pay alimony.
Originally posted by John Wong:Please name one instance I am derogatory to women in this topic
I can't name a single one where you're not.
Originally posted by John Wong:That the best you can do?
Your pattern 1) personal attacks -> cannot work 2) anyhow accuse of woman hating -> cannot work 3) ask you for one example to backup your accussations -> nothing
Singapore birthrate very low. you think this is not serious? you think it is a joke?
if you think my idea is lousy, please explain why. give reason. back up. not follow your above pattern.
thank you.
I don't see what's so serious about our birthrate? if the govt thinks it's serious they'll do something to solve it rather then Gerrymandering around and do things that make the birthrate worse.
Originally posted by jojobeach:i STRONGLY disagree with stigmatising women to force them into marriage or motherhood.
Men should make themselves more desirable and attractive so women to WANT to marry them.
It is against nature to force matings .
People should stigmatise loser males who are lazy, weak, stupid and refused to be attractive for women. They should be sterilised and exiled into pulau kosong where they belong.
It's men's own fault for becoming undesirable.
The strongest and fittest should have offsprings. To ensure human beings continue to thrive and flourish.
We must enact laws to ensure our males are strong and attractive.
Men must wake up every morning at 5 am to start a rigorous exercise routine staring at age 15. They can only be discharge of routine after he has fathered 5 children.
Routine.
Run 5 km.
Do 100 push ups
Do 200 start jumps
Pump 100 lbs of iron
If they are unable to do so, they go to jail for one week.
All men must go for fertility checks, if got low sperm count, send him to jail.
Men must go for 3 month grooming classes and complete with distinction. Or they will pay a penalty of $3000.
Every month. Men must parade themselves in community centers, all eligible women will go there to pick out their mate.
Any male who refused to accept the woman must be canned 50 strokes and made to eat dog shit.
that way, I guarantee our birth rate will shoot through the roof.. and govt will have to renact the 2 children rule all over again.
and according to scientists, animals invented rape as a tool to ensure their genes would get passed on.
besides..... we're surrounded by countries that have men who married their wives and then send them over here to work. then stay home and shake leg.
by nature... lol we are already a better choice here by actually wanting to work to feed a family.
if not for the law protecting women, things would be a lot worse.
Originally posted by Summer hill:
john wong, do you know what is enthics?
Originally posted by jojobeach:We are EQUALLY ridiculous here.
To find a cure, you need to find the root cause. You don't just prescribe chemotheraphy for acne.
Your idea is to suppress/oppress negative enforcements, my idea is to encourage positive enforcements.
Punitive ( yours) vs constuctive (mine).
If you have good looks, you have good looks... if you don';t have good looks but you have good character , then you need money.
If you have good looks and your character sucks.. then you need money.
If you don't have the looks AND your character sucks.. you need LOTS of money.
I am suggesting men make themselves more desirable internally ( Looks and Character) , so women need not have to rely on external materialism so much to be attracted to men.
Unfortunately, our men don't want to look good, and their characters suck balls... ofcors our women go for the money !!
Understand ??
doubt it, our women just go for money, nothing to do with the rest. Character probably ranks the lowest in terms of piority.
the way it happens, it's usually either money or the guy does something out of character to make her happy. then you end up with another baby and a single mother.
Originally posted by John Wong:jojo, of course not. but please try to open your brain a bit to see more path.
you see, to have children is mostly the woman choice.
why?
because the woman body is the one that carry the baby for 9 month and give birth.
For example, if a guy say, woman, let me put baby in your stomach, when woman say no, bopian. cos woman will think, who is this guy, will he take care of me, got money to take care of me and baby, got money send baby to yale or harvard, got money pay for international school, can he afford condo or landed property, etc etc...
on the other hand. if woman say boy... come put sperm in me... most guys will say... OK!
or should I say, if woman want baby, they can also just go sperm bank and ejaculate into themself.
OK. I can open my "brain".. can you open yours ?
Good to know you actually agree , that a woman can have a baby without being married to a man.
So this stigmatising women to have babies.. is not exactly about marriage.
It's about having babies , yes ?
Now , then we should do away with single mother stigmas.
As long as a woman is willing to have a baby... it doesn't matter if she is married or not.
A child from a single mother is just as important as a child from a married mother.
If you want to argue that child from married family is better off... that is rubbish.
As long as a man is not willing to help care for the child... with marriage or without marriage.. they are the same. Because mothers will be mothers with or without the father.
Ofcors.. if a single father is willing to care for his child.. he is no different from a married father.. same logic.
Marriage is just a status... it's acutally quite meaningless in the debate of increasing birth rates.
What is important is to make sure their bloodlines are properly recorded so siblings do not end up having children together.
Conclusion: Women should be encouraged to have babies.. single mother or married mother... And as long as our society is willing to provide adequate support and acceptance... it can be done.
Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:
when a girl goes for an abortion, usually she or her family think that they can't afford to have the baby, maybe financially or the girl thinks it'll be better for the relationship?
beyond those reasons, I can only say the girl's taken advantage off? it's a situation unlikely to lead to marriage, or a stable marriage. even if you force it through.
don't blame the guys on this one. I always advocate the girls should take care of themselves. The ladies in question might have gone pro life(I'm pro choice so maybe same thing here? maybe not?)
but you need to remember, society is not punishing her for being pro-life, but their life choices. you don't see the same treatment for married ladies do you?
fact remains , she didn't protect herself. she thinks it's love and it's a modern society when she wants to do it.
if you think more about it, it's the same situation as when some old lady gets conned into buying magic stones that cures illnesses. then society labels them old dumb and senile.
personally I feel that something has to be done for single mothers but my stand aligns with the govt on some point. the subsidies were there to encourage marriage and a "wholesome" family
so that arguement will not work if someone thinks like me. it's not punishment, it's a "reward" that they don't, frankly speaking qualify for.
beyond sercuring housing for them. anything else would be punishing the rest of society for their hour of fun.
I rather the govt jail the fathers and make them pay alimony.
You are assuming that ALL marriage is the result of a "good" choice. In reality, that is not the case. There's good marriage, then theres the mediocre and bad ones.
To qualify for the "reward" ?
By depriving the rights given to another person, you are essentially punishing.
A mother is a mother.. no matter what her marital status is.
A single mother is no less important than a married mother, so why do we need them to "qualify" for that reward ? They should automatically qualify the moment she is pregnant.
Punish for her life choices... ? Then should we also punish those women who married lousy men ? I think its about time.. we stop "punishing". Because punishing is just a tool of manipulation to favor one side.
ALL mothers should be treated the same. Married or not.
Originally posted by oldbreadstinks:
and according to scientists, animals invented rape as a tool to ensure their genes would get passed on.
besides..... we're surrounded by countries that have men who married their wives and then send them over here to work. then stay home and shake leg.
by nature... lol we are already a better choice here by actually wanting to work to feed a family.
if not for the law protecting women, things would be a lot worse.
Oh please... the scientists are laughing at you.
Animals didn't invent rape...
Animal males are required to show their power in order to earn rights to mate with a female.
When was the last time you watched Animal planet ? Maybe never ? Gosh...
Peacocks show off their feathers, many species of animals duel to be alpha males.., penguins/birds build nests to impress their females....
Men/boys... i donno... they sit around moping and whining females are too hard to please.
If you are talking about those maids with indonesian husbands... that's the result of social stigmas on women. Those women are forced to marry good for nothing males because they do have social persecutions.
And you guys want the same in Singapore ?