JC student apologises to DPM Teo for offensive blog post
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"F*** you, sir", he blogged on 2 June.
On Friday, St Andrew’s Junior College (SAJC) student Reuben Wang made a U-turn and apologised toDeputy Prime Minister Teo Chee Hean in person at the Ministry of Home Affairs.
According to The Straits Times (ST), the JC1 student had initiated the apology after SAJC counseled him on Wednesday.
Wang’s earlier public post had drawn both support and flak from Internet users after he blogged about the “conversation” students had with Teo during the recently held Pre-University Seminar.
Teo was the key speaker at this year's annual Pre-U Seminar, held at the Nanyang Technological University and attended by more than 500 students last week.
In his 700-word post filled with profanities, the 17-year-old criticised Teo for answering questions posed by students with another question instead.
“The participants made it extremely clear they were dissatisfied with DPM Teo- and when we asked about our concerns which we do not know what can be done to solved, he will give the f***ing ridiculous reply “What do you think (can be done)?” Wang wrote.
The forthright student then reasoned, “We are 17 years old with very little to no life experience and you want us to come up with policies for you? It is exactly because we don’t know what can be done we worry about the country. We seek your opinion. You gave us none.”
Wang blogged on the topic again, unapologetic, after his first post went viral. But he has since taken down his entire blog.
After his apology on Thursday, Wang told ST that he realised his post was “rash” after reading his friends’ comments.
In response, Teo was quoted by the paper as saying "I am glad he has taken the time to reflect, and recognises that what he said, as well as the way he said it, were wrong."
He added that he avoided spoon feeding students answers because he wanted them to “think deeply about the difficult choices they had to make”.
Many Yahoo! users who commented on a Facebook thread felt that Wang was only partially wrong.
“The only thing he did wrong was the use of profanities,” said Lendl Tan. “Had he omitted all the profanities, I think it'd have been a rather intelligent and apt piece.”
Agreeing, another user Henry Chua let on, “I still believe the student was correct in being frustrated by the non answer given by DPM, just that he should not have used the expletive.”
Others, who were less supportive, pointed out that it is about time today’s youngsters understand that they are all accountable for their words and actions.
“Kids need to learn that they are responsible for everything they do, and everything they write online,” said David Ernie. “Although I am not a fan of DPM, and his political party, I definitely do not support what the kid did.”
Added Eva Lim Sng, “Have a point, make it, but do it respectfully and without using profanities. Let's not dive into gutter politics. The undergrads today can do better than this.”
When contacted, political analyst Derek da Cunha told Yahoo! Singapore that there is “clearly a right way and a wrong way to express disagreement”.
“If a person's argument is strong then all that needs to be done is to cast that argument in purely intellectual terms substantiated by examples, without any descent to profanities,” he advised.
The independent scholar also noted that this incident is likely to strengthen the argument for a code of conduct on responsible online behaviour, which Minister for Information, Communications and the Arts Yaacob Ibrahim had recently called for.
Added da Cunha, “If you continue to allow a virtual free-for-all on the Internet with few restrictions (and) thresholds of what are unacceptable continue to be breached, this might increasingly be reflected in errant behaviour offline.”Read for comments: http://sg.news.yahoo.com/jc-student-apologises-to-dpm-teo-for-offensive-blog-post.html
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The forthright student then reasoned, “We are 17 years old with very little to no life experience and you want us to come up with policies for you? It is exactly because we don’t know what can be done we worry about the country. We seek your opinion. You gave us none.”
He added that he avoided spoon feeding students answers because he wanted them to “think deeply about the difficult choices they had to make”.
Ah Teo, you don't know how to answer , be honest and admit you don;t know. No need use the lame excuse you don;t want to spoon feed. When one has no humility he can hardly earn respect from the nation! Ah teo is not magnaminous unlike some leaders from other countries. Yucks lor!
Please la, they are just teenagers, what do you ah teo expect from them, though I have to say it is not nice for the boy to use vulgarity.
Sick of the behaviour and arrogance of the pap govt, damn it!
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The independent scholar also noted that this incident is likely to strengthen the argument for a code of conduct on responsible online behaviour, which Minister for Information, Communications and the Arts Yaacob Ibrahim had recently called for. Yala yala, implement the above so singaporeans cannot respond to the words and bad attitude of the pap online. Only pap has the right to say what they want to the nation, damn!
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Mod , if you want to delete this , feel free. Found out there is a related topic to this in other forum here.
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Added da Cunha, “If you continue to allow a virtual free-for-all on the Internet with few restrictions (and) thresholds of what are unacceptable continue to be breached, this might increasingly be reflected in errant behaviour offline.”
Come on la, don't give lame excuse for restricting freedom of speech online. So bloody lame! If wanna restrict, Singapore govt is no different from the China govt.
Vote PAP out!
the daCunha does not make sense at all. People are sensible to differentiate what is cyber and reality. Bootlicker of the MIW?
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Originally posted by winsomeea:
"F*** you, sir", he blogged on 2 June.
On Friday, St Andrew’s Junior College (SAJC) student Reuben Wang made a U-turn and apologised toDeputy Prime Minister Teo Chee Hean in person at the Ministry of Home Affairs.
According to The Straits Times (ST), the JC1 student had initiated the apology after SAJC counseled him on Wednesday.
Wang’s earlier public post had drawn both support and flak from Internet users after he blogged about the “conversation” students had with Teo during the recently held Pre-University Seminar.
Teo was the key speaker at this year's annual Pre-U Seminar, held at the Nanyang Technological University and attended by more than 500 students last week.
In his 700-word post filled with profanities, the 17-year-old criticised Teo for answering questions posed by students with another question instead.
“The participants made it extremely clear they were dissatisfied with DPM Teo- and when we asked about our concerns which we do not know what can be done to solved, he will give the f***ing ridiculous reply “What do you think (can be done)?” Wang wrote.
The forthright student then reasoned, “We are 17 years old with very little to no life experience and you want us to come up with policies for you? It is exactly because we don’t know what can be done we worry about the country. We seek your opinion. You gave us none.”
Wang blogged on the topic again, unapologetic, after his first post went viral. But he has since taken down his entire blog.
After his apology on Thursday, Wang told ST that he realised his post was “rash” after reading his friends’ comments.
In response, Teo was quoted by the paper as saying "I am glad he has taken the time to reflect, and recognises that what he said, as well as the way he said it, were wrong."
He added that he avoided spoon feeding students answers because he wanted them to “think deeply about the difficult choices they had to make”.
Many Yahoo! users who commented on a Facebook thread felt that Wang was only partially wrong.
“The only thing he did wrong was the use of profanities,” said Lendl Tan. “Had he omitted all the profanities, I think it'd have been a rather intelligent and apt piece.”
Agreeing, another user Henry Chua let on, “I still believe the student was correct in being frustrated by the non answer given by DPM, just that he should not have used the expletive.”
Others, who were less supportive, pointed out that it is about time today’s youngsters understand that they are all accountable for their words and actions.
“Kids need to learn that they are responsible for everything they do, and everything they write online,” said David Ernie. “Although I am not a fan of DPM, and his political party, I definitely do not support what the kid did.”
Added Eva Lim Sng, “Have a point, make it, but do it respectfully and without using profanities. Let's not dive into gutter politics. The undergrads today can do better than this.”
When contacted, political analyst Derek da Cunha told Yahoo! Singapore that there is “clearly a right way and a wrong way to express disagreement”.
“If a person's argument is strong then all that needs to be done is to cast that argument in purely intellectual terms substantiated by examples, without any descent to profanities,” he advised.
The independent scholar also noted that this incident is likely to strengthen the argument for a code of conduct on responsible online behaviour, which Minister for Information, Communications and the Arts Yaacob Ibrahim had recently called for.
Added da Cunha, “If you continue to allow a virtual free-for-all on the Internet with few restrictions (and) thresholds of what are unacceptable continue to be breached, this might increasingly be reflected in errant behaviour offline.”Read for comments: http://sg.news.yahoo.com/jc-student-apologises-to-dpm-teo-for-offensive-blog-post.html
hahaha...the admiral teo should wake up suddenly from his million dollar job.actually he was seen sleeping in parliament with head down and eyes closed.
i think the 17 yr old kid has the right of speech. he thinks ahead of his time for a kid.maybe he should become PM one day.
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Originally posted by winsomeea:
Added da Cunha, “If you continue to allow a virtual free-for-all on the Internet with few restrictions (and) thresholds of what are unacceptable continue to be breached, this might increasingly be reflected in errant behaviour offline.”
Come on la, don't give lame excuse for restricting freedom of speech online. So bloody lame! If wanna restrict, Singapore govt is no different from the China govt.
Vote PAP out!
the daCunha does not make sense at all. People are sensible to differentiate what is cyber and reality. Bootlicker of the MIW?
Another FT for the Papies?
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does that mean even teens are not happy with them already? at this age??
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I think generally people don't get happy when they ask a question, and get another question.
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Originally posted by dragg:
does that mean even teens are not happy with them already?
at this age??
they unhappy?the ministers wiill say....just get used to it as they always say pay monkey pnuts u get pnuts.and pay for the best...end up they goto some JC and get them to give good suggestions thinkin jc students are virgins n gong gong.they dare not goto other places because wait someone throw slipper at them. -
If the DPM coluldnt handle just a question from a 17 yo on his view of his obligation to his appointment.
how is he going to handle bigger issues?
he should resign
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He is appointed to "follow" orders like an soldier and the same apply for the rest of the ex-general.
This is the biggest issues that he is handling now.
What are the bigger issues that he is supposed to handle ?
"What do you think ?"
All of you should think of your own solution since you created the question.
You know the question and problem better than him.
He is only there to echoing your questions and make you think deeply about the answer.
"There is no free answers."
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wonder wat will happen to those soldiers in a war who follow orders from a commader tat dun have a brain to think?
DEAD MEAT
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Pls dun worry Mr. DPM, once the boy is send to the National Slavery programme. He will train to be a Yes Man. Yes Sir, Yes Encik, Yes DPM.
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You are a good thinker so you should be able to get your answers yourself.
Since when is having a thinking brain a criteria for being a talent in the house ?
The evidence is Miss Kate Spade.
Your expectation for a talent and the Old Man's requirement for a talent is greatly divided.
Please adjust to the right mindset and stop making so much demand on the chosen talent.
They already gave you their response: They "can't think" for you.
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Originally posted by Clivebenss:
Another FT for the Papies?
FT or not we don't know, for sure it is on the side where the wind is. No principle!
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Originally posted by dragg:
does that mean even teens are not happy with them already?
at this age??
This is not the first case we know teenagers not happy with the MIW. Recalling a few years ago a group of teenagers were having a conversation session with former MM Lee which was screened on the national TV. The former M M Lee did not answer the question asked but instead he asked the student personal question. From here we can see, "monkey see, monkey do" kind of culture from the present govt. Pretty unhealthy!
From the way Teo ah hean carries himself he is no man to deserve our respect.
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Originally posted by Medicated Oil:
You are a good thinker so you should be able to get your answers yourself.
Since when is having a thinking brain a criteria for being a talent in the house ?
The evidence is Miss Kate Spade.
Your expectation for a talent and the Old Man's requirement for a talent is greatly divided.
Please adjust to the right mindset and stop making so much demand on the chosen talent.
They already gave you their response: They "can't think" for you.
That's why I say theirs is the easiest job in the world of politics. They are in the comfort zone enjoying highest paid govt job in the world, no need to be responsible to answer questions when they don't feel like it, use their power to sue if they want to, push blame to the citizens instead of helping to solve problems, want GDP growth just continue to import foreigners and increase the cost of living.
Huat ah, this govt in our Sinkingpore huat forever and they are assured whatever their behaviour is the sickaporeans will still continue to give them the mandate to do as they wish.
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These type of "talent" will not be accepted by the present batch of informed and intelligent citizens.
If they still want to use the lowly method of threat and fear like what the old man did, they better be prepared to pay the price.
Their comfortable life will be ended very soon.
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Unfortunately, we have more sickaporeans than Singaporeans in sinkingpore. Sickaporeans made up sufficient percentage to vote them in to give us all a bad life in sinkingpore.
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He should know that this DOES NOT look good on his reputation! I bet the 17 year old kid is just sorry for using vulgarities, not his opinion! DPM Teo, can wake up already anot? Hope you kana boot out of parliament in 2016!
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my god, is he slated to be the next PM
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Originally posted by TehJarVu:
my god, is he slated to be the next PM
*pukes*
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Originally posted by SBS5009U:
He should know that this DOES NOT look good on his reputation! I bet the 17 year old kid is just sorry for using vulgarities, not his opinion! DPM Teo, can wake up already anot? Hope you kana boot out of parliament in 2016!
Hey hey hey, bingo , bingo! You are more mature and objective than the teo ah hean.
You replace him in parliament la in 2016. -
Originally posted by TehJarVu:
my god, is he slated to be the next PM
Crony crony
cronyism cronyism lives!!!!!