Look for increase in more immigration - CNA report
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the experts still don't get it...
it is the cause and not the answer to the problems which plague Singapore
=> CNA reports on the "need for immigration"
as the pressure mounts due to competition for scarce resources in Singapore, the couples are squeezed if they want to have any children...
at the moment, in order to have a roof over their heads, citizens are selling their future in order to have some semblance of a life in the present... with the housing prices rising into the sky while the gabrament debates and drags their feet over increasing stagnant wages to keep pace.. all the time inflation is killing everyone, the average couple would have to think about 200 times before they have a child... much less two
so far, a 4-room HDB (mind you.. it is supposed to be subsidised) in a god-forsakened area on our little island would set one back about $320k? that is if you are fortunate enough to be selected... if you are not, you have to go into the open market (open market for subsidised housing.. now isn't that insane?) and purchase one at over $400k.. if you are lucky... those in nice neighbourhoods are worth about $650k or more.. i've had people quote me 5-room flats (they did not maintain it, it's a wreck) for $800k...
without the most basic of needs (not wants.. NEEDS), which is priced too insanely high and eats away almost all our CPF (the premise was that it was for our retirement), we are supposed to have a family? when we can't afford one?
dear politicians and lea-duhs... in the past, you did tell us that you wanted quality and not quantity...
looks like you forgot... anything to feed the statistical monster which lies and increase the GDP? looks like it...
and you have sold your country which you have sworn to serve and protect down the river... for a handful of silver...
it is a wonder the citizens have not come marching up with torches and pitchforks... but if you keep up with the financial, political, social, mental and economic sodomy, don't be surprised if the citizens do...
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Why do they label people in their sixties as non productive yet they extend retirement to keep people working till their 70s?
Major contradiction in PAP's policies.
And when you want to find work in your 60s and 70s, you find that your job has been taken over by a newly sworn immigrant.
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They dun get it. Seriously whenever I'm outside sometimes I do see there are things that simply do not need so many manpower to do the job but ends up ppl still employ so many foreigners for it.
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The problem here is lky policy of 2 child is enough in the 60 and 70s. Also PAP policy of looking for talent to run singapore and PAP. Education policy in singapore put student like boxes of apples, good and better one in one box bad one in another in the 70 80 and 90s. look at what happen now? Parents borth from the good apple box of cos want the young to as good as them be a good apple. while bad apple parents young ones some can make some cannot. Also why singaporean population decrease is due to pressure on edcation and policy of PAP force people to good apple or even better apple or best apple so best that many young people cannot make it or give up or leave this singapore to other green place to bulid a family outside.
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Come to think of it. Sometimes the experts saying should not be taken seriously, this mornings paper over the MRT upgrade cost tells it so. I felt like crying.
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Simply the education policy is not well covered. They never realised there's people who are more acad incline, some more hands on. I mean you see the recent article on dating blue collar job people? Seriously if you go to some of western world (least something positive) the blue collar workers are well respected. Here...
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Originally posted by sbst275:
I mean you see the recent article on dating blue collar job people? Seriously if you go to some of western world (least something positive) the blue collar workers are well respected.
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Could be due to the artificial divide imposed by Lee Kuan Yew. That is divide up the population of Singapore into english speakers and non english speakers.
Speak ang moh are the elite, professionals, rich, highly educated. Lee Kuan Yew is a peranakan, he belongs to the english speakers.
Speak non english are the gangsters, lowly educated, blue collar, poor, useless etc.
Other countries, you white collar, blue collar or red collar, elite, non elite, all speak the SAME language. Those who don't speak the dominant language are people from minority groups.
But SIngapore We MAJORITY speak MINORITY language. This is the problem.
This problem should be tackled head on.
As a
`non-Asian' language, English is `neutral' to every racialised Singaporean. (15) As it
has to be learned as a `foreign' tongue by all, everyone supposedly competes, at school
or work, on an equal footing, through their acquired skill in the English language.
That English is a `neutral' language is, of course, an ideological illusion. Since
Singapore was a British colony for 150 years, English was already a common language
among the privileged local population who worked for the colonial administration
and whose children had access to the limited opportunities of learning the language.
This included the first generation of political leaders who, as English speakers, had
access to British university education immediately after the second world war. The
ideological promotion of English as a `neutral' language to all ethnic Asian children
has suppressed this class dimension. The political utility of this illusory `neutrality' is
that it enables the state to articulate, in English, its own interests distinctly, apart from
the interests of all racial groups. It also effects a separation of state/national interests
from those of the racial majority, and prevents state/national interests from being
captured by the racial majority. The position of monolingual Chinese speakers
illustrates this
http://lukdomen.narod.ru/questia-geopol.pdf
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they never understand there is a limit to everything. This is a small island and to crammed that many and continue to increase is a disaster waiting to happen.
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The PAP must be stopped. We have to save Singapore.
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Originally posted by Dalforce 1941:
Could be due to the artificial divide imposed by Lee Kuan Yew. That is divide up the population of Singapore into english speakers and non english speakers.
Speak ang moh are the elite, professionals, rich, highly educated. Lee Kuan Yew is a peranakan, he belongs to the english speakers.
Speak non english are the gangsters, lowly educated, blue collar, poor, useless etc.
Other countries, you white collar, blue collar or red collar, elite, non elite, all speak the SAME language. Those who don't speak the dominant language are people from minority groups.
But SIngapore We MAJORITY speak MINORITY language. This is the problem.
This problem should be tackled head on.
As a
`non-Asian' language, English is `neutral' to every racialised Singaporean. (15) As it
has to be learned as a `foreign' tongue by all, everyone supposedly competes, at school
or work, on an equal footing, through their acquired skill in the English language.
That English is a `neutral' language is, of course, an ideological illusion. Since
Singapore was a British colony for 150 years, English was already a common language
among the privileged local population who worked for the colonial administration
and whose children had access to the limited opportunities of learning the language.
This included the first generation of political leaders who, as English speakers, had
access to British university education immediately after the second world war. The
ideological promotion of English as a `neutral' language to all ethnic Asian children
has suppressed this class dimension. The political utility of this illusory `neutrality' is
that it enables the state to articulate, in English, its own interests distinctly, apart from
the interests of all racial groups. It also effects a separation of state/national interests
from those of the racial majority, and prevents state/national interests from being
captured by the racial majority. The position of monolingual Chinese speakers
illustrates this
http://lukdomen.narod.ru/questia-geopol.pdf
Please lah not everything into LKY and racial things and assumption.
Look things in nature and you can absolve a lot of problems.
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cos HK also got 8m ppl now??? lol
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The psychological effect is there, whether conscious or unconscious I firmly believe in that.
If you unnaturally and abnormally divide up the population into english and non english speaking, there will be a psychological effect.
For example, who here associates hokkien speakers as elite professionals?
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Look for increase in more immigration - CNA report
Lee Hsien Loong lied. He said during 2011 elections, he will restrict foreigners.
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I read your grumbles and I hear your woes but really what can you do for yourselves? Having gone thro the system my uncles and grand aunts all tell me , there are ways to beat the system and succeed. They have, so I don't see why you can't? Of course if you are going ot tell me that you cannot do anything for yourself , then what is there to say, right? For those of you who are young- you have ample choices going for you. YOu listen to what the government says first , then make your own decision as to what is good for you and simply work hard towards your goal. If you think this place sucks and you can't succeed here , then make plans to leave to wherever you think you have a better chance to succeed. Logical?
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Originally posted by Dalforce 1941:
The PAP must be stopped. We have to save Singapore.
Politicians will give you all kinds of statistics to tell you they are looking at the BIG picture for your benefit, not theirs. But you got to make your decision if their BIG picture co-relates and complements your own picture lah! If the picture don't match, well you still have options when you are young, fit and energetic . It is when you are old or sick and worse poor , then you have very little options ...even then there is still Batam Bintan and some say JB. -
Originally posted by Dalforce 1941:
The PAP must be stopped. We have to save Singapore.
and how do you propose to do that? -
Tzens.
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Pls dun complain lar, the G.E is over already. Recall once elite ever say this "We have the mandate of the people". Since the majority the singaporean agree with this policy, why cry father cry mother now.
The plp deserved the govt they have.
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without new immigrans, dun think pap can win the last election
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Who believe them ?
I do.
Kee chiu!
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Originally posted by Lazybumy:
Pls dun complain lar, the G.E is over already. Recall once elite ever say this "We have the mandate of the people". Since the majority the singaporean agree with this policy, why cry father cry mother now.
The plp deserved the govt they have.
Don't be like a broken record. -
Originally posted by ivan1973:
The Nazi decision can only be stopped by its own citizens.
In Germany, the Nazis first came for the communists, and I did not speak up, because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak up, because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak up, because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I did not speak up, because I was not a Catholic. Then they came for me... and by that time, there was no one to speak up for anyone.
-- Martin Niemoeller, Pastor,
German Evangelical (Lutheran) Church
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Originally posted by mancha:
In Germany, the Nazis first came for the communists, and I did not speak up, because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak up, because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak up, because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I did not speak up, because I was not a Catholic. Then they came for me... and by that time, there was no one to speak up for anyone.
-- Martin Niemoeller, Pastor,
German Evangelical (Lutheran) Church
nice quote... beri long no see nice and appropriate quote le... -
Originally posted by Paem:
Don't be like a broken record.
Just doing what most the singaporean doing. Afterall most singaporean keep complaining abt the samething like a broken record and yet when the G.E come, they still give the elites the mandate. -
Originally posted by mancha:
In Germany, the Nazis first came for the communists, and I did not speak up, because I was not a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak up, because I was not a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak up, because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I did not speak up, because I was not a Catholic. Then they came for me... and by that time, there was no one to speak up for anyone.
-- Martin Niemoeller, Pastor,
German Evangelical (Lutheran) Church
Actually most singaporean i known of is worst, many disagree with the policy, yet if you know them, they will tell you this, "let other vote for the opp lar, if I vote for opp, wait i kenna mark by PAP how?". Then after G.E, most of them complain the samething again.