i hate them too. but i don't know why.
because u looked down on them
Originally posted by Infamy121:i hate them too. but i don't know why.
you which ethnic group?
Originally posted by Infamy121:i hate them too. but i don't know why.
it's just you.. you've got a racist streak...
and you seem to hate people who had the courage to go to a foreign land where there are people like you, in order to work and earn some money to improve their lot in life and for their family...
ultimately, the psychiatrists say that people who are racists usually have low self-esteem and hate themselves...
try not to hate so much...
Smelly
Idiots. You are unhappy with them cause they walk your streets and have a lil fun when they aren't at work, simply cause it's an inconvenience to you.
But you are happy to have them around building up the walls and ceilings of the buildings you work and tenant, and doing up the other 'dirty' work locals wouldn't touch.
Inconsiderates. But similar to the US, eventually the minority Blacks and Mexians became millionaires offering you what you want and taking your money.
The tables ALWAYS TURNS around.
Originally posted by Infamy121:i hate them too. but i don't know why.
Try not to hate for no reasons...even if there's one, please don't.
They are foreigners who came all the way and contributed to our nation's growth. Most of the jobs they did, singaporeans won't even want to lay a finger. So be gracious.
Picture this..... we hated them for being here whilst we collectively known as Asians are still not welcome in some part of the world. I've been there (in that situation) and was shocked how some asians including us from Singapore being treated "not welcomed" openly.
Before passing judgement, put yourself in their shoes. If you can't then you ought to know that this world is not made just for you and me. After all we are living under the same sun and moon.
So what do we expect?
Bring them in to build your comfortable offices and homes. Once they are done contributing to the nation's growth and advancement, keep them locked in a square so they will not inconvenience the locals.
It's funny how Sgs complain and whine about the racism they face themselves in the UK and Australia, which makes me wonder what the UK and Australia locals 'perceives' the Sgs. For example, an American Chinese friend of mine who moved here 2 years ago told me more Sgs need to use deodorants, :). I guess the Banglas arent the only smelly ones here.
So yeah - I am firm with my believes. The immigrants of China and Bangla who are considered the lower 'cast' eventually walks up the ropes and takes the reigns, similar to what has happened in the Australia, UK and US.
Hasn't anyone noticed something yet? Ever walked into the Investment Banking and Fund Managements divisions in the Banks in Singapore - you might have noticed the % of locals working there is lesser than 10 from only 4 years ago.
Originally posted by Turbulent Times:So what do we expect?
Bring them in to build your comfortable offices and homes. Once they are done contributing to the nation's growth and advancement, keep them locked in a square so they will not inconvenience the locals.
It's funny how Sgs complain and whine about the racism they face themselves in the UK and Australia, which makes me wonder what the UK and Australia locals 'perceives' the Sgs. For example, an American Chinese friend of mine who moved here 2 years ago told me more Sgs need to use deodorants, :). I guess the Banglas arent the only smelly ones here.
So yeah - I am firm with my believes. The immigrants of China and Bangla who are considered the lower 'cast' eventually walks up the ropes and takes the reigns, similar to what has happened in the Australia, UK and US.
Hasn't anyone noticed something yet? Ever walked into the Investment Banking and Fund Managements divisions in the Banks in Singapore - you might have noticed the % of locals working there is lesser than 10 from only 4 years ago.
white iphones cost more than black iphones
Originally posted by Summer hill:white iphones cost more than black iphones
That is because white iphone is girly.
U hate them?
they are the one who is willing to clear ur trash/ clean the lift/wash the floor
More locals carry black iphones though. What's are you trying to implying?
Btw - locals are not white. They are yellow, and I am yet to see a yellow iphone.
same indian snake?
learn to appreciate the things they're doing for us.
Yep, I am certainly color blind. Travelled Asia well enough and read the Economist like a Bible to know that being color blind saves more lives than not being one, like TS.
Only the ones that molests people. Other than that, I don't give a damn what they do.
Agree with above
Singapore's migrant workers
struggle to secure better deal
By Kalinga Seneviratne
SINGAPORE - When a group of about 100 mostly Bangladeshi migrant workers went on strike at a construction site over unpaid wages this month, it created ripples in this affluent and orderly island republic.
The Ministry of Manpower (MoM) quickly stepped in and ordered the concerned private construction company to pay its striking workers back wages owing since November 2011. The strike was over eight hours after it started on the morning of February 6.
"MoM does not condone employers who fail to pay salaries on time, or fail to upkeep and maintain the foreign workers they have
brought in," said an official statement.
The strike brought home the fact that a quarter of Singapore's four million people are low-paid migrant workers from other Asian countries, doing heavy construction jobs that its own wealthy citizens will not do.
Social activists say there is widespread exploitation by unscrupulous recruitment agents who circumvent rules stipulated by the MoM and take advantage of impoverished workers from Asian countries like Bangladesh, India, China and Myanmar.
Last year, the MoM promised "sufficient deterrence" to ensure that laws are respected by agents. But, Singapore does not have a minimum wage policy and employers may easily terminate contracts when workers demand fair wages.
Government figures suggest that the country already has 240,000 construction workers and will need tens of thousands more to execute planned housing programmes alone.
Jolovan Wham, executive director of the Humanitarian Organization for Migration Economics, lays part of the blame on rapacious recruitment agencies that charge hefty fees from the workers back home and then take no responsibility for them once they land in Singapore.
"They pay such huge sums of money," said Wham. "The agents must help the workers when they face problems at the workplace, but they don't do that."
Many workers from Bangladesh, India, China and, lately, Myanmar are known to have paid amounts ranging from US$2,400 to US$4,800 to agents in their home countries to secure jobs in this city state.
Construction workers earn about $480 a month while skilled workers like electricians and welders get three times that amount. However, agents and employers deduct money from their monthly pay against "compulsory savings", uniforms, food and accommodation.
Rafiqul (not his real name) came from Bangladesh to work here as a construction worker about two years ago. He paid an agent back home $3,200 to get a job here that paid him $475 a month.
Three months ago when Rafiqul's work permit was cancelled and he was given a ticket to go back home, he found that his employer would not hand over accumulated compulsory savings worth $1,902.
"Now he says that I have to pay for the dormitory. This was never said to me before," he said angrily.
Rafiqul complained to the MoM, which extended his work permit to enable him to take his employer to court.
Saravan, an electrician from India, handed $4,756 to an agent in Chennai for a job in a school that pays $1,426 a month. After working for six months the job stopped in December and he is yet to receive three months worth of pay.
"Agents use shell companies that exist only by name. Agents in Bangladesh coordinate with agents here to set up jobs. They are mostly swindlers and conmen as far as I can see," says Debbie Fordyce, a volunteer with Transient Workers Count Too (TWC2), a non-government organization.
Shafik, a Bangladeshi worker who approached TWC2 for help, has worked here for five years and now wants to go back home. During this period, the agent deducted $79 each month as savings.
When Shafik asked for his money, now amounting to $4,756, the agent refused to oblige.
"I had already given him $6,341 when I came here to work, I don't want to give him anymore," he told IPS. But, Fordyce says that he will find it hard to get this money back because the law says any dues from employers must be claimed within a year.
Another issue that rights groups want the MoM to sort out is that of forcible repatriations of workers injured in the workplace. After Abdul (not his real name) met with an accident, his boss cancelled his work permit and called in a "repatriation company". He was threatened, and when he complained to the MoM and police, beaten up.
Repatriation companies are engaged by employers to get rid of troublesome or inconvenient migrant workers.
When rights groups asked the MoM to crackdown on repatriation companies because many of them employ local thugs, it was pointed out that while some 16,000 workers were repatriated last year there were only seven formal complaints.
"When people are forcibly repatriated there is hardly any room for them to go and make a complaint," explained Wham. "Though repatriation companies are legal their activities are illegal. You cannot confine someone against his will, it's an offence here."
Fordyce said that TWC2 sees about 200 workers a month and all have invariably been cheated by one agent or another. Most of the workers have lost large sums of money to agents, collected on one pretext or another.
"MoM is receptive to our complaints, but we can't do anything to get money back from people who have been given money without documentation," she said.
(Inter Press Service)
All of you are treated the same way in west like you treat those guys. I have seen the arrogance of 'I am not chinese, I am Singaporean' deflate right behind the immigration counters in US and EU.
Originally posted by Bio-Hawk:All of you are treated the same way in west like you treat those guys. I have seen the arrogance of 'I am not chinese, I am Singaporean' deflate right behind the immigration counters in US and EU.
This is absolute bullshit.
Singaporean are never arrogant before angmoh authoritative officers.
How can you see something deflate when it is not there in the first place.
You are fabricating.
Originally posted by mancha:This is absolute bullshit.
Singaporean are never arrogant before angmoh authoritative officers.
How can you see something deflate when it is not there in the first place.
You are fabricating.
Yeah, never heard of this either.
But I have heard of Sgs complaints about racism in the UK and Aussie. E.g. a colleague of mine was assigned to UK for 2 years but returned after 6 months due to 'isolation' from the rest. While visiting client factory sites, he was not allowed to engaged in discussions with management nor allowed to go down to the canteen for lunch simply because he was Chinese.
Obviously the above is just one extreme example. There are Sgs who have had a pleasant life and experience overseas. Personally, neither myself nor my brothers had faced racism during our time in Australia.
But it just goes to show that how we treat and view the Bangladeshis, China and Mongolians in Singapore, is perhaps how the British and Aussies view the Asians. How we are getting pissy over foreign immigrants competing and securing employment at the expense of the locals, is perhaps the same feeling the British and Aussies feel off the Asians in their own countries.
Peace to the world. Color is the evolution of mankind but not who or what mankind is.