Foodcourt chain's name, S21, is undesirable
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Nov 23, 2011 - ST Forum
AS REPORTED last Saturday ('Bar's name leaves bad taste for some'), the owner of a bar named Aushwitz removed its signboard after some members of the public were offended.
The name of the signboard is similar to the name of a World War II German concentration camp.
I have noticed there is a popular foodcourt chain in Singapore named S21. S-21 is a former high school in Cambodia which was used as the notorious Security Prison 21 (S-21) by the Khmer Rouge communist regime from its rise to power in 1975 to its fall in 1979. It was an urban killing field of the Khmer Rouge. If anything, S-21 holds a greater notoriety for Singaporeans by geography and regional association as Cambodia is an Asean member.
I wonder if the owners are aware of the implications of the name of their foodcourt chain.
I am also puzzled why the name S21 was allowed by the Accounting and Corporate Regulatory Authority (Acra) in the first place. Acra said it would not endorse any name of business that is 'undesirable'. I think S21 is very undesirable.
Siew Heng Keong
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S11 is the slang for dollars.
There is the S11 chain of kopitiams.
Then came along S21, might be just a progression of S11.
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Siew, u think too much.
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doing business here really difficult.
even names you need public approval.
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Just too personal and private response. Over sensitive and overreacting! Siew guy or gal is very free. Jiak pah bo sai pang!
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Originally posted by dragg:
doing business here really difficult.
even names you need public approval.
It occurs not in Singapore. A good case is a hawker in China, Guangdong. Lau Tuck Wah, Hong Kong Andy Lau wanted to sue this hawker for using his artiste yi ming's Lau Tuck Wah as his stall name. Hawker told him off that this Lau Tuck Wah is existing in his family. The name was used long before this arrogant jerk Andy Lau existed as artiste yi ming Lau Tuck Wah.
Andy Lau is more despicable than the Siew person. hahahahahha! ping shi li qi fu ping ming!
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Originally posted by Clivebenss:
I have noticed there is a popular foodcourt chain in Singapore named S21. S-21 is a former high school in Cambodia which was used as the notorious Security Prison 21 (S-21) by the Khmer Rouge communist regime from its rise to power in 1975 to its fall in 1979.
Cold war politics in south east asia, China, U.S, Thailand, Singapore, Malaysia and others all support Pol Pot to fight against Soviet ally Vietnam:
"I do not understand why some people want to remove Pol Pot," said China's Deng Xiaoping in 1984. "It is true that he made some mistakes in the past but now he is leading the fight against the Vietnamese aggressors."
China provided the Khmer Rouge forces with $100 million in weapons per annum all through the 1980s, according to U.S. intelligence.
A large Chinese arms shipment in mid-1990 violated a previous promise to cut weapons deliveries to the Khmer Rouge in return for Vietnam's September 1989 withdrawal from Cambodia.
For more than a decade, official Western support for Deng Xiaoping's China spilled over into support for his protégé Pol Pot. Former U.S. National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski recalls that in 1979, "I encouraged the Chinese to support Pol Pot. Pol Pot was an abomination. We could never support him, but China could." According to Brzezinski, the United States "winked, semi-publicly" at Chinese and Thai aid to the Khmer Rouge. At the same time, international aid to the Khmer Rouge on the Thai border was pushed through by United States officials.
In the 1980s, U.S. Secretary of State George Shultz opposed efforts to investigate or indict the Khmer Rouge for genocide or other crimes against humanity. Shultz described as "stupid," Australian Foreign Minister Bill Hayden's 1983 efforts to encourage dialogue over Cambodia, and in 1986 he declined to support Hayden's proposal for an international tribunal. In 1985, Shultz visited Thailand and warned against peace talks with Vietnam, allegedly telling ASEAN "to be extremely cautious in formulating peace proposals for Kampuchea because Vietnam might one day accept them."
http://www.historyplace.com/pointsofview/kiernan.htm
Discussing Cambodia with Thailand's Foreign Minister, Kissinger acknowledged that the Khmer Rouge were "murderous thugs" but he wanted the Thais to tell the Cambodians "that we will be friends with them":
Cambodia aligned with China could be a "counterweight" to the real adversary, North Vietnam.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB193/HAK-11-26-75.pdf
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB193/
Harry Lee Kuan Yew talks about covert aid from Singapore to Pol Pot:
CAMBODIA'S genocidal Khmer Rouge and allied non-communist insurgents received massive sums of largely covert aid from China, the United States, Singapore, Malaysia and Thailand in the 1980s, according to Singapore Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew.
As much as US$1.3 billion was spent supporting rebel groups fighting Vietnamese and allied Cambodian forces after Hanoi's invasion of Cambodia, which toppled the Khmer Rouge regime in 1979.
"Our representative on the Thai-Malaysian-Singaporean-US group that met in Bangkok to co-ordinate our programme estimated that the United States dispensed a total of about US$150 million in covert aid to the non-communist groups," the former Singapore leader said in his recently published memoirs...
Mr Lee estimated that Singapore spent about US$55 million, Malaysia about US$10 million and Thailand a few million, in training, food and ammunition funnelled to the insurgents, he said in his memoirs, From Third World to First: The Singapore Story 1965-2000.
"This was dwarfed by China who spent some US$100 million on the non-communist forces . . . and 10 times that amount on the Khmer Rouge," he added.
He said China was the only country that had given direct aid to the Khmer Rouge in the form of cash and weapons.
The Vietnamese army captured Phnom Penh on January 7, 1979, forcing dictator Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge regime - blamed for the deaths of as many as 1.7 million people between 1975 and 1979 - into a jungle rebellion mainly in the border region with Thailand.
Hanoi installed a puppet regime of Khmer Rouge defectors that initially included current Prime Minister Hun Sen as foreign minister. The last Vietnamese troops did not pull out of Cambodia until a decade later...
http://www.singapore-window.org/sw00/001002sc.htm
Mr Lee Kuan Yew estimated that Singapore spent about US$55 million,
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Why this Dalforce always respond to threads by posting irrelevant long lor sor articles?
Bo liao!
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I am a fan of Dalforce. He keeps me entertained.
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Good lah! He got the time to dig up all the information.
I rely on my memory of events. He give the behind the scene details.
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It is just a name, if we start going toward the direction of being sensitive towards everyone (even the FOREIGNERS) we will eventually lose our Singaporean taste of life. Tampines - Pronounce as Tam Pines or Tam Penis. Ho its a rude word!
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Originally posted by ahtansh:
It is just a name, if we start going toward the direction of being sensitive towards everyone (even the FOREIGNERS) we will eventually lose our Singaporean taste of life.
Tampines – Pronounce as Tam Pines or Tam Penis. Ho its a rude word!
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Somebody shoot that moron and bury him. S21 means singapore 21st century la. Jiak ba bo sai pang
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
Somebody shoot that moron and bury him. S21 means singapore 21st century la. Jiak ba bo sai pang
Ya! Sibeh bo liao! Too much time on his or her side to think and write nonsense.
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Originally posted by Clivebenss:
Nov 23, 2011 - ST Forum
AS REPORTED last Saturday ('Bar's name leaves bad taste for some'), the owner of a bar named Aushwitz removed its signboard after some members of the public were offended.
The name of the signboard is similar to the name of a World War II German concentration camp.
I have noticed there is a popular foodcourt chain in Singapore named S21. S-21 is a former high school in Cambodia which was used as the notorious Security Prison 21 (S-21) by the Khmer Rouge communist regime from its rise to power in 1975 to its fall in 1979. It was an urban killing field of the Khmer Rouge. If anything, S-21 holds a greater notoriety for Singaporeans by geography and regional association as Cambodia is an Asean member.
I wonder if the owners are aware of the implications of the name of their foodcourt chain.
I am also puzzled why the name S21 was allowed by the Accounting and Corporate Regulatory Authority (Acra) in the first place. Acra said it would not endorse any name of business that is 'undesirable'. I think S21 is very undesirable.
Siew Heng Keong
Siew Heng Keong is much more undesirable.Change his name.
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high school in Cambodia also my problem?
my friend is Donald leh then how
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Originally posted by TehJarVu:
high school in Cambodia also my problem?
my friend is Donald leh then how
really bo liao article.
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trolling to the max.
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Originally posted by jayh272416:
trolling to the max.
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next one: calling your drinks "coolers" is undesirable because it sounds like "coolies" which ws an undesirable part of history
tiger beer is a bad name cuz tigers kill many people and thus should not be "glamorised"heck, carlsberg should be banned cuz the "rls" is hard to pronounce by singaporeans
SMRT should change its name because it means death in czech (yes im serious)
and a 1001 more reasons for 1001 more stuff.
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Originally posted by jayh272416:
next one: calling your drinks "coolers" is undesirable because it sounds like "coolies" which ws an undesirable part of history
tiger beer is a bad name cuz tigers kill many people and thus should not be "glamorised"heck, carlsberg should be banned cuz the "rls" is hard to pronounce by singaporeans
SMRT should change its name because it means death in czech (yes im serious)
and a 1001 more reasons for 1001 more stuff.
Should be charged for disturbing the peace.
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I heard of a product S7-11 cologne, should it be ban too?
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I see nothing wrong with S21.
Cambodians may interpret S21 as something bad, but this is Singapore, not Cambodia.
Singaporeans don't see anything bad or sinister about S21.
Ironically, Singapore aided the Khmer Rouge communists against Vietnamese communists during cold war. Paradoxically, the Malayan communists were in a war with Malaysia and Singapore too, with their base in southern Thailand.
Mr Lee estimated that Singapore spent about US$55 million; Malaysia about US$10 million and Thailand a few million, in training, food and ammunition funnelled to the insurgents, he said in his memoirs, From Third World to First: The Singapore Story 1965-2000.
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S21 is Street 21 right?
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sianz... 21.