A reality check about ministers' income
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Mar 26, 2011 - ST Forum
THE opposition should think carefully and get a reality check if it plans to use the issue of ministers' salaries to score an election point.
The arguments can go like this: that if one wants to serve the nation, one must be prepared to sacrifice and forgo one's income worth.
If one were to use this line of logic, does it mean we should also not compensate our national servicemen during their in-camp training? After all, they should be prepared to sacrifice for their country and it's only income and not their lives they are sacrificing. This would save lots of taxpayer money.
If this suggestion sounds absurd, then I guess I have made my point. We need to recognise that income is not only meant to deter corruption but also to communicate appreciation and the value of the person in the employer's eyes (the employer in this case being the nation).
Most of us would feel sore and unappreciated if we realise we are not paid market value. We would leave the company. This is human nature. I would expect that someone looking to lead the nation would understand this basic management principle?
Gideon Lee
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giddy.
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I think this guy is smart.
It looks like he is defending the multi million dollar salary but he uses the example of people serving NS to make the point.
Subconsciously, people will compare the salary one gets as a fulltime NS soldier / reservist as opposed to the high end salaries of the ministers.
Add in the serving the country bit, it will make people stop to think.
But that's just me and my way of thinking.
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dunno me dunno ns.
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this will always be a chicken and egg issue....never ending debates. Well, let the votes speak at the end of the day. If you singaporeans want ministers to have higher pay so as to retain their "talent", then show it. At the end of the day, if things don't go your way, pls dun kpkb hor.
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
this will always be a chicken and egg issue....never ending debates. Well, let the votes speak at the end of the day. If you singaporeans want ministers to have higher pay so as to retain their "talent", then show it. At the end of the day, if things don't go your way, pls dun kpkb hor.
Increase GST to help the poor!
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PAP is gonna break the world record of highest paid politican.
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Sometimes I wonder if these people really exist. Giddy Lee may just be Lee Hsien Loong in disguise, supporting his own stupid ideas through Straits Times.
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Originally posted by Positron:
PAP is gonna break the world record of highest paid politican.
break what record?? they already the record holder what... -
It is acceptable that they can get the million dollar salary and perform as accordance to what they are paid for.
This means excellent performance with 0% jobless and making multi-millionaire.
The truth is that the people are being milked to pay for their salary and pay for their 575 dollar throne to protect their ass.
But, they are now a bunch of honest mistake hiding under the pants of ah kong with NOTHING to show or prove their worth.
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What cock and bull logic huh. It's compulsory to serve your NS but one can choose not to become a politician if the opportunity cost is deemed too high. Buay tahan.
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Originally posted by charlize:
Increase GST to help the poor!
happened to one friend of mine. Voted for PAP because he's scared that he cannot get the HDB that he wants.....and then, bang! everything starts going up. That's the true dose of reality check.
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no more surprises.
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Can I get some advices on how to make the oldies see the light and not keep looking at the past? They keep basing on how good lky was in the past to decide on who they want to vote. They keep saying the opposition in sg in the early days were hopeless to get rid of the gangsters. When LKY appeared, he was so effective to get rid of gangsters. They are deaf and blind to know that LKY was once a traitor working for the japanese. Damn, these are the people who are the culprits for our suffering under the rule of white elephants.
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Originally posted by afan:
Can I get some advices on how to make the oldies see the light and not keep looking at the past? They keep basing on how good lky was in the past to decide on who they want to vote. They keep saying the opposition in sg in the early days were hopeless to get rid of the gangsters. When LKY appeared, he was so effective to get rid of gangsters. They are deaf and blind to know that LKY was once a traitor working for the japanese. Damn, these are the people who are the culprits for our suffering under the rule of white elephants.
tell them they will die in JB and never have a chance to step back into Sg again.
they are not worth the $$ that the new citizens they are bring in to milk.
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Originally posted by Clivebenss:
tell them they will die in JB and never have a chance to step back into Sg again.
they are not worth the $$ that the new citizens they are bring in to milk.
these two old ladies are very stubborn refuse to live in the present . Keep living in the past where lky is concerned. Like lim suay say they are deaf to people. Deaf to people who tell them the works of lky affecting life in this modern day. Absolutely hopeless. -
Originally posted by afan:
these two old ladies are very stubborn refuse to live in the present . Keep living in the past where lky is concerned. Like lim suay say they are deaf to people. Deaf to people who tell them the works of lky affecting life in this modern day. Absolutely hopeless.let them die in JB.
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Chee takes on Palmer over ministers' pay and the poor
I apologise for posting Dr Chee video but, please do watch how Dr Chee took a swipe at PAP's Mr Michael Palmer during the ending of the video.
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Originally posted by Clivebenss:
let them die in JB.
hahahahah! k, then I won't attend their wake.
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Originally posted by Askingyouto:
Chee takes on Palmer over ministers' pay and the poor
I apologise for posting Dr Chee video but, please do watch how Dr Chee took a swipe at PAP's Mr Michael Palmer during the ending of the video.
no apology needed, you want me to post as a new topic?
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Originally posted by afan:
hahahahah! k, then I won't attend their wake.that what I tell those old idiots too.
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Originally posted by afan:
Can I get some advices on how to make the oldies see the light and not keep looking at the past? They keep basing on how good lky was in the past to decide on who they want to vote. They keep saying the opposition in sg in the early days were hopeless to get rid of the gangsters. When LKY appeared, he was so effective to get rid of gangsters. They are deaf and blind to know that LKY was once a traitor working for the japanese. Damn, these are the people who are the culprits for our suffering under the rule of white elephants.
They should also need to remember that pap was once a oppositon party in Malaya too right? -
Originally posted by Clivebenss:
no apology needed, you want me to post as a new topic?
No, That's ok.
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Just ask the old folks whether they can get $2.50 chicken rice any more.
Ask the old folks why their son and daughters are not producing grand son and daughters.
Ask the old folks why they have to wait till 65 to use their money.
It is the same observation that I have encountered on the older generation rooting for the croonies.
But, they have forgotten the one that served and meet the people have already been booted out by the dragon son.
What are remaining is a bunch of "honest mistakes that tell people to forget"
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Unfortunately, they lived in the past.....
This was the question posed to my MIL...."Who's the PM of Singapore?". I almost fell off my chair when the doctor asked the 90 years old woman this to check if she's mentally "sound". Still I translated the question to her in teochew and she replied: "Lee Kong Yeow"
I'm very sure she is metallly sound!