4 of 10 Singapore males, 30 to 34 years, are single
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Women's charter act.
Sigh!
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In the future, there will be lesser need for schools of every level. That means lesser business. Lesser kids means lesser business. Everything will be adult oriented.
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
i tell u lah 90% of the chinese singaporeans don't even know what words like "semangant yang baru" or "cita cita kita yang mulia" in the anthem mean. Bet you to my last dollar ah!
i can tell you i dunno wad the whole national anthemn is about.
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Originally posted by 4sg:census of population 2010
Number of single Singaporeans on the rise And those who have tied the knot are having fewer children By Li Xueying, Political Correspondent
THEY are footloose and fancy-free - and their numbers are growing.
To be exact, one in three residents - or one million of those who call Singapore home - is single. In percentage terms, the figure has gone up from 30 per cent a decade ago to 32 per cent today.
Also in a seemingly unstoppable trend bucking the Government's efforts to get Singaporeans to procreate, even those who have tied the knot are having fewer children.
One in five women in their 30s who have ever been married is childless. That is 20 per cent, up from 14 per cent in 2000.
One of them is teacher M. Choo, 32, whose attitude towards having children is expressed thus: 'Kids? It's not a priority. We will see how it goes.'
The same trend goes for older, ever-married women in their 40s. The percentage of those who are childless has risen from 6.4 per cent to 9.3 per cent.
Among women in their 40s who have married, university graduates have the fewest children, an average of 1.74 children, against 2.21 children for those with below secondary qualifications.
The Chinese tend to have the smallest families, the Malays the largest, and the Indians are in between.
The latest census data comes in the midst of Singapore's plummeting total fertility rate, which fell to a historic low of 1.22 last year, despite government policies ranging from longer maternity leave to cash bonuses.
As for those who have not married, if he is a man, he is likely to have below secondary qualifications.
Among men aged 40 to 44, 24.1 per cent of those with below secondary qualifications are single, compared with 12.9 per cent for graduate men.
If she is a woman, the converse is true.
Among women aged 40 to 44, 23.5 per cent of graduates are single, compared with 10.8 per cent for those with below secondary qualifications.
Among all ethnic groups, the Chinese have the highest proportion of singles.
For instance, 17.5 per cent of Chinese women aged 40 to 44 are single - more than double the 8.2 per cent among Malay women.
Of the perennial mismatch between lower-educated men and better-educated women who are single, sociologist and Nominated MP Paulin Straughan noted that Singapore continues to be governed by 'strong notions of patriarchy that say that men should be the leader'.
However, she sees a glimmer of hope.
'Moving forward, I don't think we will be stuck in this situation forever.'
The reason is that Singapore society has levelled up in terms of education.
'For the next generation of younger male Singaporeans, they will be able to achieve at least secondary education,' she said.
[email protected]LOL... my neighbour doesnt care about her children.. the only job she did was to give birth to the baby... after tat the husband must feed the child for him... tat day i saw her walking in towards the lift, totally ignoring her hubby and baby on hand... she did not even press the doors open button for her hubby who is carrying the baby... walking behind her.... imagine wad happens if the door closes?
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Originally posted by Deino:
In the future, there will be lesser need for schools of every level. That means lesser business. Lesser kids means lesser business. Everything will be adult oriented.
we can always get more foreign talent wad.
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SG girls are sluts.
PUI...............
Go for export set.....
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Originally posted by Junyang700:
LOL... my neighbour doesnt care about her children.. the only job she did was to give birth to the baby... after tat the husband must feed the child for him... tat day i saw her walking in towards the lift, totally ignoring her hubby and baby on hand... she did not even press the doors open button for her hubby who is carrying the baby... walking behind her.... imagine wad happens if the door closes?
don't see things on the surface..maybe the husband has a mistress etc that is why she treat him in that manner..
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People choose to be single for the freedom...but also will be lonely...
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Problem is not the man got mistress outside...problem is the man dun earn enough to make her happy la....><"
It is a $$$ world here in sg....if u got the $$$...girls will happily walk behind u...else u better learn to walk behind them....><"
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Originally posted by Demon Bane:
People choose to be single for the freedom...but also will be lonely...
can do volunteer work etc than won't be lonely -
Originally posted by single_alone:
can do volunteer work etc than won't be lonelySingle people must make alot of frens....otherwise the loneliness will be unbearable...yup do volunteer work may help....
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some people cannot for a second no one to tok to. and some of them post here like its the opinion of it end all. really have friends only good so can tok cock. cannot alone tok cock right? people will say you are crazy.
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Originally posted by 4sg:Of the perennial mismatch between lower-educated men and better-educated women who are single, sociologist and Nominated MP Paulin Straughan noted that Singapore continues to be governed by 'strong notions of patriarchy that say that men should be the leader'.
However, she sees a glimmer of hope.
'Moving forward, I don't think we will be stuck in this situation forever.'
The reason is that Singapore society has levelled up in terms of education.
'For the next generation of younger male Singaporeans, they will be able to achieve at least secondary education,' she said.
This sentence is confusing. Does she means that there are still majority younger male singaporeans with only PSLE cert? -
ALRIGHT!!!
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Originally posted by tranquilice:
This sentence is confusing. Does she means that there are still majority younger male singaporeans with only PSLE cert?It means that the total number of PSLE graduates or lower for male is more than female.
Bear in mind this an old statistic ie those ppl around 35 to 55 and it is not refering to the younger generation. -
Originally posted by Junyang700:
LOL... my neighbour doesnt care about her children.. the only job she did was to give birth to the baby... after tat the husband must feed the child for him... tat day i saw her walking in towards the lift, totally ignoring her hubby and baby on hand... she did not even press the doors open button for her hubby who is carrying the baby... walking behind her.... imagine wad happens if the door closes?
I know what you mean.....I also have a neighbour...... something like dat.
Strange as it may sound .....the daughter married.....hot, hot sex.......within 3 years of marriage.... 3 sons.
Husband don't want to care for the sons ....wife also dont care.....
Throw children care to parent-in-law......
Husband sometimes work....sometimes dont work.....wife never work since marriage.
Both footloose... dont want to buy HDB flat or rent from HDB....prefer to tongbang relatives.....Sons sec school ........still tongbang........
and I am talking.....not other races here but the major race hor...... -
Let's look at some of the factors that might cause Singaporeans to remain single.
- stressful lifestyle, long working hours
- pay and wages are unable to keep up with the rate of price increases in life
- Women's Charter, and no oraganised committee to address the stresses and problems faced by Singaporean males, single or married and protect them as well.
- NS, deters men from marrying earlier as they want to start and build up a good career before even planning their finances to get into a relationship and marriage
- Prices of housing and cars keep on increasing, hindering Singaporeans of planning these aspects for a healthy family environment.
With prices of HDB flats keep on increasing, which Singaporeans have to pay for something that doesn't even belong to them ultimately and slogging their half of their lives just to buy this apartment, Singaporeans are having a hard time trying to convince themselves to have children where basic obligations of paying off the flat's expenses seems to be already taking a large chunk of their burden. Moreover, COE prices keep on increasing and increasing. Before even having to afford your own transport, what's the point of thinking about setting up a family? Not to mention more and more ERPs.
- High costs of living for necessities, besides housing and transport. Aspects like the education, health care/hospitalisation expenses for the child now and in future.
- Too competitive environment, in terms of jobs and wages, basic needs and now even personal space and freedom.
- Responsiblities of marriage and raising up children, especially when the lifestyle here is already too stressful, and costs of living is so high.
But I have to disagree on the part that males below secondary school qualifications are single and marrying at a later age. Even now, males with diploma and degree qualifications are single or/and marrying late. Main reason is that they see more financial insecurity in future as the costs of living keep on increasing and the job market is so competitive to give them a job that pays decently. They rather focus more on their career and work their way up now to get a good pay and position in future, before even thinking of getting into a relationship.
And this is especially true for my pool of friends, some although not all, who are reaching or are already past 30 years old but still do not have a relationship and get married. One of them even told me, "I can't even afford to buy a car and a house, how to convince the girl that I can give her (and kids) a decent family environment in future?"
In future, it might not be the gender inequality based on education that hinders marriage but the root of the problem might be the high costs of living and too competitive job market.
Originally posted by Kuali Baba:It's their choice, and no one has the right to dictate how they should live their lives for the sake of "national interest" or "tradition" - especially if it means getting into a relationship with someone they cannot live with.
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Originally posted by tranquilice:
This sentence is confusing. Does she means that there are still majority younger male singaporeans with only PSLE cert?"Nominated MP Paulin Straughan ..........................
'For the next generation of younger male Singaporeans, they will be able to achieve at least secondary education,' she said."
But reading what she said about the future, I don't agree with her prediction.Increase the general education level just means bringing the whole curves up. The man's curve goes up, so does the woman's curve.
Eventually the lower percentile of the male (who will then have sec education) will still mismatch with the lower percentile of the female (who will then have post sec education).
And the male will still want to marry down and the female will still want to marry up!
The future man (current boys from 6 to 16 years old) moves up one ladder step and the future woman (current girls from 6 to 16 years old) moves up one or two ladder steps and both the two should never meet. -
the refusal to acknowledge the issues at hand would mean increasing opposition....
in fact they already know....but surely counter measures are ever ready...
what remains is how one decide
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Experts explain S’pore’s declining birth rate
Experts believe the high cost of living is the main deterrent to couples having children.
They are only getting married in June, but already the couple have decided against having any children.
Speaking to The Straits Times (ST), civil servant Jean Heng, 30, said she chooses her independence and freedom above having a baby.
She said, “Life in Singapore is very stressful. Work takes up a huge amount of time and I have no energy to take care of kids. If I want to have kids, I would want to devote enough resources in terms of time and money.”
Ms Heng and her teacher-fiance are just one of the many couples in Singapore who have decided to strike babies off their marriage checklist, citing common reasons such as financial and time constraints.
Experts ST spoke to are not surprised by the findings of the Census of Population 2010, which saw more childless married women and more one-child families. They cited the high cost of living as a main reason for couples shying away from raising children.
Associate Professor Tan Khye Chong, a statistics lecturer from Nanyang Technological University, said both husband and wife have to work to pay off the property loan. “It’s more difficult to start a family with both working and some may put off having a family until they are older.”
Professor Gavin Jones, a demographer at the Sociology department at the National University of Singapore, said the “perceived high financial and opportunity cost” deters couples.
“Once they have children, it closes off options seen as desirable; for example, free time, holidays and a career,” he said, adding that parents are also under pressure to produce “quality children” to do well in school and get ahead in life.
“There is pressure to devote a lot of effort to parenting, so it means giving them things like tuition. It’s a highly labour-intensive process to raise kids here,” he said.
Experts expect the low numbers to translate into far-reaching implications for the country, reported ST.
Singapore Management University’s Assistant Professor of Asian Studies Hoon Chang Yau said the increase in immigrants needed to make up the Republic’s workforce will “lead to a more complex society with more people from around the world settling here”.
“While it can be quite exciting, there will also be anxiety over the change in the Singapore identity,” he added. Policies would also need to be tweaked to cope with an already ageing population, which means people would have to work even longer.
The recent Census of Population 2010 found a six percentage point increase in the proportion of childless married women aged 30 to 39 and a near-3 percentage point increase in women in their late 40s.
Higher-educated women are having fewer children, compared to their less-educated counterparts, the Census found.
http://sg.yfittopostblog.com/2011/01/14/experts-explain-spores-declining-birth-rate/
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I believe it has already been decided a long time ago that chinese from china will make up the numbers. They must have done their post baby bonus research / analysis and realised it isn't working at all.
The main reason for not having kids is the cost of living.....and I don't think he really cares about that. So the easy way out is import of new population.
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Originally posted by 4sg:
Experts explain S’pore’s declining birth rate
Experts believe the high cost of living is the main deterrent to couples having children.
They are only getting married in June, but already the couple have decided against having any children.
Speaking to The Straits Times (ST), civil servant Jean Heng, 30, said she chooses her independence and freedom above having a baby.
She said, “Life in Singapore is very stressful. Work takes up a huge amount of time and I have no energy to take care of kids. If I want to have kids, I would want to devote enough resources in terms of time and money.”
Ms Heng and her teacher-fiance are just one of the many couples in Singapore who have decided to strike babies off their marriage checklist, citing common reasons such as financial and time constraints.
Experts ST spoke to are not surprised by the findings of the Census of Population 2010, which saw more childless married women and more one-child families. They cited the high cost of living as a main reason for couples shying away from raising children.
Associate Professor Tan Khye Chong, a statistics lecturer from Nanyang Technological University, said both husband and wife have to work to pay off the property loan. “It’s more difficult to start a family with both working and some may put off having a family until they are older.”
Professor Gavin Jones, a demographer at the Sociology department at the National University of Singapore, said the “perceived high financial and opportunity cost” deters couples.
“Once they have children, it closes off options seen as desirable; for example, free time, holidays and a career,” he said, adding that parents are also under pressure to produce “quality children” to do well in school and get ahead in life.
“There is pressure to devote a lot of effort to parenting, so it means giving them things like tuition. It’s a highly labour-intensive process to raise kids here,” he said.
Experts expect the low numbers to translate into far-reaching implications for the country, reported ST.
Singapore Management University’s Assistant Professor of Asian Studies Hoon Chang Yau said the increase in immigrants needed to make up the Republic’s workforce will “lead to a more complex society with more people from around the world settling here”.
“While it can be quite exciting, there will also be anxiety over the change in the Singapore identity,” he added. Policies would also need to be tweaked to cope with an already ageing population, which means people would have to work even longer.
The recent Census of Population 2010 found a six percentage point increase in the proportion of childless married women aged 30 to 39 and a near-3 percentage point increase in women in their late 40s.
Higher-educated women are having fewer children, compared to their less-educated counterparts, the Census found.
http://sg.yfittopostblog.com/2011/01/14/experts-explain-spores-declining-birth-rate/
Nice article.
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Originally posted by opeth:
SG girls are sluts.
PUI...............
Go for export set.....
Ya, just like Rockstar's mom & his bitch. Always gimme ram.
i guess guess ppl like him , SG women find useless thats why hv to run away to Oz land!
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cam anyone explaiin the rationale of getting married but not wanting babies?
get married for what then?
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Soon it'll reach 80% ....Singapore's economy in the future will have problems...