Originally posted by Clivebenss:you will be surprise many youngsters got completely cut off from dialects so their next best is try to speak with their horrible Mandarin for some.
Too bad, their problem. For me, I would try to speak dialect and Mandarin alongside to let them know how the dialect is spoken anyway.
Originally posted by Clivebenss:Speak dialect even in airport counter if the staff is Chinese.
Yes, speak dialect at the airport counter.
Speak dialect to our steward and stewardess.
Originally posted by BanguIzai:
Too bad, their problem. For me, I would try to speak dialect and Mandarin alongside to let them know how the dialect is spoken anyway.
yes, their problem but also our problems. There will be less and less dialect conversation.
Originally posted by BanguIzai:Yes, speak dialect at the airport counter.
Speak dialect to our steward and stewardess.
many speak chiangchew hokkien or cantonese so we know they are either from Penang or Ipoh.
Speak dialect in Hair salon.
Speak dialect in cafe.
Speak dialect in spa.
Originally posted by Clivebenss:many speak chiangchew hokkien or cantonese so we know they are either from Penang or Ipoh.
Their willingness to speak Chiangchew Hokkien or Cantonese means they are not ashamed of speaking dialect at all !
They know dialect is just a language, their language and THE language.
Nothing low, nothing higher, nothing awkward and nothing special. So they just use normally.
A few weeks ago I met a Muar girl working at a sweet drinks shop, so afraid to speak Hokkien to me although I asked her she said she is Hokkien . Even Muar people are starting to be influenced by Singapore thinking that dialect is something to be ashamed of.
Originally posted by BanguIzai:Their willingness to speak Chiangchew Hokkien or Cantonese means they are not ashamed of speaking dialect at all !
They know dialect is just a language, their language and THE language.
Nothing low, nothing higher, nothing awkward and nothing special. So they just use normally.
but if locals especially the young ones, they are complete detached from dialects. I wonder what the parents or grandparents are thinking?
A few days ago I spoke Hainanese to the lady hairstylist coz she said she from Hainan and married here 10 years liao and slowly slowly she start to converse with me in Hainanese also. Need some familiarization and training / warm up to use dialects again for many people.
Originally posted by Clivebenss:but if locals especially the young ones, they are complete detached from dialects. I wonder what the parents or grandparents are thinking?
The parents and grandparents had already been brainwashed thinking dialects is useless and not the $$$-earning language. This is mentality of CHINESE.
Originally posted by BanguIzai:A few weeks ago I met a Muar girl working at a sweet drinks shop, so afraid to speak Hokkien to me although I asked her she said she is Hokkien . Even Muar people are starting to be influenced by Singapore thinking that dialect is something to be ashamed of.
Sg tv programs are recievable all the way to Melaka, those Chinese within range in Johor and Melaka are more like Sg Chinese than their northern counterparts.
This shows Chinese is a group of people who are goonless, easily influenced, $$$-driven (or should I say 被錢牽著鼻å�èµ°) group.
Originally posted by BanguIzai:The parents and grandparents had already been brainwashed thinking dialects is useless and not the $$$-earning language. This is mentality of CHINESE.
to be truth, hokkien is a good commerce language. That's a waste. Many good idioms on commerce if know how to apply.
For Chinese,
useless = no $$$-bringing capability
useful = have $$$-bringing capability
For Chinese, everything is measured by money !
Originally posted by Clivebenss:to be truth, hokkien is a good commerce language. That's a waste. Many good idioms on commerce if know how to apply.
WAA, that's good. Let's do some research and contribute at the Hokkien thread to 發�光大.
Originally posted by BanguIzai:For Chinese,
useless = no $$$-bringing capability
useful = have $$$-bringing capability
For Chinese, everything is measured by money !
not only chinese, many in the world fail to understand what rich means. To many is the few extra digits in the account.
There is only so much one need.
Here I relate you what I really learnt from one native fisherman in Melanesia.
He asked me why I need to fish so much? I replied we can have some for the next few days. He then tell me why not let the fish produce more fish in the next few days and we can still fish the next few days.
Many of our resources are laid to waste for the extra digits in an account.
Melanesia which country? curious leh,.
Originally posted by BanguIzai:
WAA, that's good. Let's do some research and contribute at the Hokkien thread to 發�光大.
Yup, every dialects are different in their origins. If you look at politics Hokkien is the worst as we are never political orientated. Money over fame.
Originally posted by BanguIzai:Melanesia which country? curious leh,.
Solomon Islands in Ghizo.
So exotic place. U very fortunate sia to travel exotic places. Cool.
Money money money
Is so funny
Originally posted by BanguIzai:So exotic place. U very fortunate sia to travel exotic places. Cool.
I like nature as you know so I dun travel to see Disneyland, Tokyo or Paris for fashion.
Good thing old girl also enjoy nature and I can follow her liking of old stuff.
So happy for old girl and you.
Originally posted by BanguIzai:Money money money
Is so funny
which is why Sg is so politically apathy. Majority of the chinese here are hokkien.
Originally posted by Clivebenss:which is why Sg is so politically apathy. Majority of the chinese here are hokkien.
Ya ya true leh