Originally posted by xavier1979:Eh... Come to think of it, mine was quite fast. Everything was done on our first date. =.="
Though I know my gf three months before she went back overseas.
EVERYTHING?
Originally posted by EarlNeo:Wa lau ai.... i just came back from ICT only and you have to go abbervation like SOP to remind me of those painful chiong sua moment.....
As u can see from the reply, everyone so call appropriate time to kiss differ greatly. Wat if u miss the kissing window and got left behind? Rush it and get label the desperado or sexperado?
"Err... I think I forgot to kiss you during our last date.... can we make up for it?"
Originally posted by BadzMaro:Cut-off date to me is when people go thier seperate ways , get married with someone else and have no chance of seeing each other again.
mmm... in the end , also whether u are financially able to maintain these's relationships. But still enjoyed some of thier company. Be it fake or not. At least i had a great time everytime with them. If i were to weight the cost to my happiness , i dun think it can be measured precisely whether it was worth it or not.
Sometimes not kissing resisting and wait until a moment u really cant help it just wanna cut the crap and do it, that first kiss is gonna be mega intense and straight to a whole night marathon.
You very experienced ley....
Originally posted by BadzMaro:how you know its meant to be. Dont u have to control it and make it the one that is meant to be ? I think for now . like me at the moment , do not possess the accumulated wisdom of all past lovers to know.. if its meant to be.. or not. So i can only roughly know
If we know if its meant to be.. lol.. then.. i can imagine whats it gonna be like. Damn.. i cant even explain the situations unfolding in my mind.
How about second chances ? Is it wise to give second chances ? if they miss the first one. So how ? Damn.. relationships , male n females so complicated , frustrating and exhilirating at the same time. Excitement and disappointments. Fuk it will be boring if u know all .
Too bad I missed the chance to meet up with you the other time when you're in Singapore... Otherwise I would have lost my virginity by now....?
Originally posted by EarlNeo:Of coz kissing must involve feeling lah.... its not like sex where lust alone is more then enough.
Itis the kinda feeling u felt when ur are draw toward her lip without even moving. Like they move on their own by some magnet or unknown mystery force. And b4 u realise.... the contact of each other soft lip.... tasting the sweetness... and just b4 u lower ur eye lid... u saw the other party following suit... sudden heighten sense of touch and taste... the increase of heart beat.
That surely is some feeling... but is that love or lust? call it wat u want... but can we base that on when or which date that it happen, as the start of a relationship? If so, when is the supposedly normal correct time frame, so that it isnt classified as too fast?
Kissing can be lust alone also what.... What you've described is just one of the types....
When and which date it happen won't tell you if it's love or lust. Period.
Originally posted by Devil1976:EVERYTHING?
IT'S A SECRET.
Originally posted by xavier1979:IT'S A SECRET.
SECRET as in TRADE SECRET?
Originally posted by EarlNeo:somehow, i am feeling like teenager again...
And I feel like a virgin again....
Originally posted by BadzMaro:date number..
when you can be comfortably intimate , when you are close enough to breathe in and smell her perfume.Shy will shy away as u look into her , and at that moment when u inch forward , yes or no will be at that moment whether she shy away or close her eyes .
What if she slaps you...??
Originally posted by Short Ninja:Excue me ar but simi ONS?
One Night Stand... -.-"
Originally posted by EarlNeo:Of coz u can treat kiss as just another item in the "get laid" list of thing to do. But that isnt wat i mean. I mean taking kissing as one of those thing that you do out of affection or attraction that connected to the start of a relationship.
Can that be use as a measurement of whether a relationship is developing too fast?
Very subjective ley.... Relationship is a 2 people thingy... What might not be too fast for you might be too fast for her or vice versa?
Also, different people give the 'weight' to kiss differently...
Originally posted by EarlNeo:Never had any ONS before.... so cant really said anything.
But my idea of ONs is just basically sex. And I dun good well on a relationship that form out of sex or lust. Coz i believe that a relationship need more then just physical need or attraction.
If you're talking about a stable type of BGR relationship, of course it'll need more than just sex / lust and physical need / attraction....
But in many instances of relationships developing out of ONS, some of them can later develop with additional of love and knowing each other etc....
Of course, some might argue that ONS developed relationships not stable and easier to break up etc... I personally think it's all very subjective... As much as an ONS developed relationship might fail, a normal one could too....
An ONS developed relationship which dies later because it doesn't find sufficient love to substain it? A normal relationship which dies later because of the same reason or because not enough sex to substain it....? And pls don't come telling me that BGR should be about love and not sex... etc... Pls tell them to those who opted out of a relationship because of their own personal preference... I won't comment if they're right or wrong.. I'll just say it's their own option....
It's just like there might be many ways to cook and eat a particular dish... Some people think fried kway teow without 'hum' is never complete and meaningless... There're some others who die die won't eat 'hum' in their fried kway teow...? So who's right and who's to judge?
Originally posted by Devil1976:If you're talking about a stable type of BGR relationship, of course it'll need more than just sex / lust and physical need / attraction....
But in many instances of relationships developing out of ONS, some of them can later develop with additional of love and knowing each other etc....
Of course, some might argue that ONS developed relationships not stable and easier to break up etc... I personally think it's all very subjective... As much as an ONS developed relationship might fail, a normal one could too....
An ONS developed relationship which dies later because it doesn't find sufficient love to substain it? A normal relationship which dies later because of the same reason or because not enough sex to substain it....? And pls don't come telling me that BGR should be about love and not sex... etc... Pls tell them to those who opted out of a relationship because of their own personal preference... I won't comment if they're right or wrong.. I'll just say it's their own option....
It's just like there might be many ways to cook and eat a particular dish... Some people think fried kway teow without 'hum' is never complete and meaningless... There're some others who die die won't eat 'hum' in their fried kway teow...? So who's right and who's to judge?
I'm impressed. Love doctor in the making?
Originally posted by Devil1976:If you're talking about a stable type of BGR relationship, of course it'll need more than just sex / lust and physical need / attraction....
But in many instances of relationships developing out of ONS, some of them can later develop with additional of love and knowing each other etc....
Of course, some might argue that ONS developed relationships not stable and easier to break up etc... I personally think it's all very subjective... As much as an ONS developed relationship might fail, a normal one could too....
An ONS developed relationship which dies later because it doesn't find sufficient love to substain it? A normal relationship which dies later because of the same reason or because not enough sex to substain it....? And pls don't come telling me that BGR should be about love and not sex... etc... Pls tell them to those who opted out of a relationship because of their own personal preference... I won't comment if they're right or wrong.. I'll just say it's their own option....
It's just like there might be many ways to cook and eat a particular dish... Some people think fried kway teow without 'hum' is never complete and meaningless... There're some others who die die won't eat 'hum' in their fried kway teow...? So who's right and who's to judge?
Of coz everyone prespective differ one to another, which is the reason why i created this thread. These is esp true among even the same gender which make it all the more interesting.
You on the other hand you choose to sit on the fence. So u said so much oso equate to saying nothing lah.
Originally posted by Fatum:I don't think "love" has an expiry date (quotes deliberate) ..... especially not for someone who's in love with the idea of being in love .....
and, really, the whole game's as much about the thrill of the chase as the prize in the end neh ? .... so if it's boredom, why not prolong the chase ? ...
People need expiry dates as a way out mah. Because the outs are easy and the thing itself is to hard to do.
Kisses in the dating phase are important, if she turn her head away, then you know mah. Why waste time? It's thrill of the chase, escalate attraction. Not prolong the boredom and murder libido mah.
Originally posted by Ferret:
dots.
EEYER ferret u tok like my friend. What dots dots dots zomg!! Illitating la!
Hmm no, from what I've read experts recommend that you do not go into a long french kiss for your first kiss.
The first kiss shouldn't be too long, in fact by normal standards it should be much shorter I believe. Kiss on the lips yes, but just light kiss, nothing too wet. Apparently there are special rules for first kisses and later kisses that men have to abide by.
Originally posted by Devil1976:What if she slaps you...??
Then u know cannot lo.. say sorry . owned.... explain to her that your judgement has failed u miserably tonight. lol ... and that perhaps after a few more dates something magical will happen ,cause u know i really like you. Sorry.. gnite. Call u tomorrow ?
And if she says YES. then ON! If not.. then.. lol.. head down.. walk to car drive to bar to drink. hahaha . but i have yet to get a slap yet. That will be really an awkward moment la.. i pray i wont be in that kind of situation. hahaha.. *touch wood*
Originally posted by Devil1976:Too bad I missed the chance to meet up with you the other time when you're in Singapore... Otherwise I would have lost my virginity by now....?
Dont worry , chances a plenty . he heh . U will lose more then ur virginity.
aiyah just blame it on the booze.
Originally posted by EarlNeo:Of coz everyone prespective differ one to another, which is the reason why i created this thread. These is esp true among even the same gender which make it all the more interesting.
You on the other hand you choose to sit on the fence. So u said so much oso equate to saying nothing lah.
I'm often objective.. And this is my take on this matter...
Originally posted by MrSean:Hmm no, from what I've read experts recommend that you do not go into a long french kiss for your first kiss.
The first kiss shouldn't be too long, in fact by normal standards it should be much shorter I believe. Kiss on the lips yes, but just light kiss, nothing too wet. Apparently there are special rules for first kisses and later kisses that men have to abide by.
Reminds me of my ex... The 1st time she kissed me tongue, my world was like SPINNING...
And that fantastic 3 hours kiss I had.... Come to think of it... STILL VERY UNBELIEVABLE!
Originally posted by BadzMaro:Then u know cannot lo.. say sorry . owned.... explain to her that your judgement has failed u miserably tonight. lol ... and that perhaps after a few more dates something magical will happen ,cause u know i really like you. Sorry.. gnite. Call u tomorrow ?
And if she says YES. then ON! If not.. then.. lol.. head down.. walk to car drive to bar to drink. hahaha . but i have yet to get a slap yet. That will be really an awkward moment la.. i pray i wont be in that kind of situation. hahaha.. *touch wood*
Spoken like an expert!
Originally posted by BadzMaro:Dont worry , chances a plenty . he heh . U will lose more then ur virginity.
GREAT! Let me know when ya drop by Singapore again ok...?