iceFatboy

1 Nov 09, 12:00

Originally posted by zocoss:

Jamie Carragher finally deserve what he got last night... He is like always pulling people down... Last week he got lucky by some strange luck the referee didn't show him a red. But this week, his luck ran out...

And another thing it seems to prove me right, and that is Rafa can't motivate his players, the players motivate themselves when they come up against bigger sides... But against smaller ones, they can't do it and Rafa is clueless as well... If they gets a manager who knows how to motivate them like Mourinho, they could be Wow !

spot on... right referee, wrong game..

seems this season, Pool really going for it, no more draws..

nOrmalbOi

1 Nov 09, 12:01

Originally posted by Medicated Oil:

The decision by Ah Ben to sub Benny and FT is correct.

He was going for a draw and to preserve the strength of his squad for trip to Lyon.

He need to qualify for CL next round for the money.

Although he was the cause for the depth of the squad, he is just deploying what he have in his team.

I dun think he is ever bothered by his critics cos he stand by his decision.

As for the bickering from other fans, it only show their maturity about the game, the liverpool fans dun even bother about it.

Are u kidding me? Have u seen Poolman? I dun really have to go dig his random posts, even those he purportly "congratulated" Man U on winning the title, do i?

limpper

1 Nov 09, 12:30

one thing for sure, rafael is a true joke

limpper

1 Nov 09, 12:33

Fulham boss Hodgson: I wished Rafa luck for Lyon

Fulham boss Roy Hodgson was proud of his players after their 3-1 victory over Liverpool.

Bobby Zamora put Fulham ahead and Fernando Torres equalised in a first half in which Liverpool dominated possession.

But when Erik Nevland put Fulham ahead for the second time and Torres had been substituted there was only one winner, Clint Dempsey scoring a late clincher for the home side.

Hodgson said: "We had to work hard to keep them at bay. They had more possession than us and at one stage I couldn't see us holding out.

"But we got closer to them in the second half. We started to create chances and took some of them. We're getting better as a team."

He admitted he had not offered any sympathy to Benitez.

"I would regard that as patronage," Hodgson said. "I just wished him luck for Wednesday."

There is no chance Hodgson, however, will let his Fulham side get carried away with the result.

He said: "We still have got a lot of work to do. I am preaching modesty and humility. To be in the Premier League and to be playing Liverpool and Manchester United and Chelsea is a wonderful achievement for Fulham.

"It is important to keep our feet on the ground and we will have to because this year European competition is a huge stretch on our resources."

MaNyZeR

1 Nov 09, 14:13

i think torres is injured in the match...

and also ah ben already said gerrard is not ready for the lyon match... and without 2 of them... bye bye!!!

Ah ben is seriously a lousy tactician and worst, his substitutions are all wrong. I dont know why, but liverpool players are not motivated enough. Only against man utd, they are motivated, other than that, against other teams, they take them for granted. 6 losts in 7 games!!! Well done!! Even aide iskander can do better than that!!!

Bus&Soccer l0v3r (VO3x 1)

1 Nov 09, 16:15

Originally posted by MaNyZeR:

i think torres is injured in the match...

and also ah ben already said gerrard is not ready for the lyon match... and without 2 of them... bye bye!!!

Ah ben is seriously a lousy tactician and worst, his substitutions are all wrong. I dont know why, but liverpool players are not motivated enough. Only against man utd, they are motivated, other than that, against other teams, they take them for granted. 6 losts in 7 games!!! Well done!! Even aide iskander can do better than that!!!

u never knw wad rafa is thinking

that time went Man U VS Liverpool

torres should be out of the match

suddenly he became fit and win Man U 2-0 =.=

TIB657M

1 Nov 09, 16:19

Originally posted by One Harmonius Blend:

Liverpool is just.. a laughing stock

win Manchester United, and yet lost to a lower-rank team.

But Fulham got win Man U before during last season. This shows that going to Craven cottage to get draw or win for visitors won't be an easy task.

reyes

1 Nov 09, 20:01

there are few flaws in liverpool that hasnt not been address and in fact it is getting worse.

1. striker crisi. besides FT who else is getting the goals? why sell peter crouch, robbie keane, nick anelka, all whom had gone to be a better striker.

2. no plan B player. look at liverpool bench? i am surprise, they almost spent as much as man utd the past few season and they couldnt even assemble a decent bench player.

3. bench player lack confidence. ryan babel is deem to be henry. and he not even starting for rafa?why start voronin and move benny to wing when benny should be playing behind torres from the start and babel be use as wing man.

i am surprise liverpool owners still keep a manager that get all tactics wrong in most days, wrong judgemtn in player transfer market, not able to get the best out of his current crop.

charleslee

1 Nov 09, 20:22

Originally posted by reyes:

there are few flaws in liverpool that hasnt not been address and in fact it is getting worse.

1. striker crisi. besides FT who else is getting the goals? why sell peter crouch, robbie keane, nick anelka, all whom had gone to be a better striker.

2. no plan B player. look at liverpool bench? i am surprise, they almost spent as much as man utd the past few season and they couldnt even assemble a decent bench player.

3. bench player lack confidence. ryan babel is deem to be henry. and he not even starting for rafa?why start voronin and move benny to wing when benny should be playing behind torres from the start and babel be use as wing man.

i am surprise liverpool owners still keep a manager that get all tactics wrong in most days, wrong judgemtn in player transfer market, not able to get the best out of his current crop.

1. rafael benitez likes players who play to his instructions to the T.. tt's y kuyt and lucas get featured in the team often coz' they dun moan to press....

2. When crouch is arnd, there was a plan B, which is long ball...however, crouch didn't really gt the liking from benitez for some unknown reason, n maybe crouch wasn't fast enuff for benitez, so he got the boot...yes, benitez may have spent as much as alex ferguson,but remember that the money was spent on getting a super gd player, paying off debts, and benitez has no choice but to use basement finds to boost the depth..

3. maybe for benitez, he tinks that voronin got more creativity than babel, thus he gt the nod..

Lastly, the current owners are more concerned with getting more $$ for themselves thna the team's result, n they probably do not have the $$ to break the contract they have with benitez.. in other words, if benitez dun resign, his job is as solid as a iron rice bowl..

zocoss

1 Nov 09, 21:10

I have been thinking what is really wrong with Liverpool... And I kind of come to one significant point... I ask myself how can a team play so well not just once against top sides but on many occasions and then do so badly against the lower ones... and sometimes its just days apart only and not like months later...

I feel it has to go down as a lack of motivational spirit among the players... Simply put, the manager isn't motivating them... Therefore, when the big teams come along, the players can automatically feel motivated just by the thougt of a big match. But when the average sides come up... They are clueless on how to contest and lack the fighting spirit that is required... Or like to put it in our own terms... Lets just say a match between 2 S league sides, and we can't bring yourself to get all excited about it right. Then even before the Pool and United derbies or the London derbies even start, we are all excited and ready to catch it whatever happens...

I guess its like that lah... Just my thought. If they can beat the big sides, then no reason they can't do so against the smaller ones with the same squad they have currently... I guess they are just not motivated enough... But if they are, i think they can be quite a frightening side to play against...

youyayu

1 Nov 09, 22:18

Originally posted by charleslee:

1. rafael benitez likes players who play to his instructions to the T.. tt's y kuyt and lucas get featured in the team often coz' they dun moan to press....

2. When crouch is arnd, there was a plan B, which is long ball...however, crouch didn't really gt the liking from benitez for some unknown reason, n maybe crouch wasn't fast enuff for benitez, so he got the boot...yes, benitez may have spent as much as alex ferguson,but remember that the money was spent on getting a super gd player, paying off debts, and benitez has no choice but to use basement finds to boost the depth..

3. maybe for benitez, he tinks that voronin got more creativity than babel, thus he gt the nod..

Lastly, the current owners are more concerned with getting more $$ for themselves thna the team's result, n they probably do not have the $$ to break the contract they have with benitez.. in other words, if benitez dun resign, his job is as solid as a iron rice bowl..

maybe cos crouch don't speak spanish?

if i am him i also siam la!

Redster

1 Nov 09, 23:40

its all the press' fault. liverpool can only play well when regarded as underdogs

stellazio

1 Nov 09, 23:49

Actually the manager doesnt need to be motivating them every single match, they're all professionals and being paid big salaries. Sure there comes a time when everyone's spirits is down and the manager or captain will need to come out and inspire or motivate the rest, but really its a disgrace to the fans and the people paying money to watch them put in displays worthy of friendlies. Be professional.