Rafa not impressed with "cold fish" labelled from G & T
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Originally posted by kopiosatu:
benayoun can be playmaker... easily
but i won't be surprised that every dribble that benayoun makes, is an instruction from rafa
rafa just likes to micro manage... too much for the team's good
out of a squad of 25 players. only one playmaker. and this particular playmaker aint something so magical kind.
so... it's a sad case for liverpool now..
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Originally posted by kopiosatu:
because, first things first, he is not a defender.
he can chase and hassle the fella, but don't expect him to tackle like maldini.
in fact, he never get more cards than paul scholes is not bad already.
kuyt is good as a hard working striker, running for everything, hassling defenders to make them cock up.
hardworking is good. really.
but that style of him dont suit liverpool,or rather the way i hope liverpool will play.
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Originally posted by limpper:
kuyt isnt lousy, on a positive note, he's rather hardworking
but sometimes, when he run up and down the field to chase that ball, and a few simply tricks from opponent can fake him. it's rather a joke to me.
Nothing wrong with being hardworking and pressuring defenders.
Tevez does that often and brilliantly to force defenders to make quick decisions in the hopes that some of the defenders will panic and give away the ball.
I do agree that pairing Kuyt and Torres upfront as an out an out striker supporting each other is way better than leaving Torres just by himself.
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i got nothing against hardworking lousy / average players
eric meijer sucks as a player, didn't get many games but the kop loves him
kuyt may not have technical ability but while the rest are giving up or taking a break, he's still chasing after that ball.
did you guys forget how he hassled giggs at the goal line and won the ball, then he crossed it for babel to score against man utd? give that same situation to babel, do u think he will bother going all the way?
but i have something against lazy, lousy players, that is the worst combination.
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Originally posted by limpper:
hardworking is good. really.
but that style of him dont suit liverpool,or rather the way i hope liverpool will play.
kevin keegan wasn't a good player
he was super hardworking and he scored goals
but shankly didn't put him as a winger
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Originally posted by Medicated Oil:
Ah Ben is famous for:
- Playing players out of position.
- Deploying formation that his players are unable to fit in.
- Sticking to hardworking ? and lousy players.
- Keep creative players out of the 1st team. (Benny is the exception)
- Tinkering. (Confuse his opponent but confuse his own players also)
- Destructing players that saved his ass (Alonso, Crouch and Keane)
- Never admiting that he is wrong.
- Telling BIG FAT Lies (Depth = 3 center-half)
woah, you're one the those few that has almost the same thinking as mine.
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Originally posted by kopiosatu:
kevin keegan wasn't a good player
he was super hardworking and he scored goals
but shankly didn't put him as a winger
i didnt really see how keegan played when he's in liverpool, but he doesnt get tricked as easily as dirk right? or are they almost the same style of player?
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Mr Limpper,
Guess what ?
http://www.thisisanfield.com/2009/10/19/why-rafa-could-qui/
Since when the ang moh start thinking like singaporean ?
Without one old man, Singapore would perish.
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the main problem is benitez
change the manager and let the players play to their strengths instead of benitez's winning eleven control.
i am sure they will improve.
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Originally posted by limpper:
i didnt really see how keegan played when he's in liverpool, but he doesnt get tricked as easily as dirk right? or are they almost the same style of player?
how to get tricked when he isn't playing as a defensive winger?
i'm sure keegan would look like a fool if he was given the same job as kuyt.
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Originally posted by Medicated Oil:
Mr Limpper,
Guess what ?
http://www.thisisanfield.com/2009/10/19/why-rafa-could-qui/
Since when the ang moh start thinking like singaporean ?
Without one old man, Singapore would perish.
brillant article.
but as a fan, i wont consider the situation of a manager, because it's the club that im supporting. i guess it's down to human's nature that at some point of a person's philosophy, it contains a certain level of selfishness.
of course, rafael will cont to have me behind him every game as i switch on the tv to watch the kop play every weekend. regardless of win or lose, a liverpool fan since 9 will cont to be one
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i won't want klinsmann
another fella who thinks too much
managers like brian clough are one off and no more
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Originally posted by kopiosatu:
how to get tricked when he isn't playing as a defensive winger?
i'm sure keegan would look like a fool if he was given the same job as kuyt.
no fan will know exactly what job rafael tells kuyt to do in every game.
but judging by how kuyt plays, he's one i will choose to be on the bench and will play him when i'm trying to protect a lead in dying mins or will play him when i need more of the ball's possession.
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Originally posted by limpper:
no fan will know exactly what job rafael tells kuyt to do in every game.
but judging by how kuyt plays, he's one i will choose to be on the bench and will play him when i'm trying to protect a lead in dying mins or will play him when i need more of the ball's possession.
but yet he's the first 11 for holland
i blame benitez for making him look like a fool
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klinsmann is last time germany that coach uh?
last season with bayern one is it?
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the reason kuyt is on the wing is because he feels that witha hardworking player like kuyt there, the opponent left back wont think bout bombing up front all the time and he can also sorta neutralised the opponent strength there especially if they have good left siders.. its all about mentality, rafa is first and foremost a defensive minded manager, he's mentality is always to not lose, therefore playing kuyt on the right wing is a defensive tactic from him.
Somehow if benitez was the one who bought Ronaldo when he first came to the premier league, im quite quite sure Ronaldo wouldnt be the man he is today, its all about his mentality with how the game should be played.
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yes.
but he was successful for germany only because of the current coach of germany
kinda like how benitez sux so bad after paco ayesteran left
like how brian clough did horribly when peter taylor wasn't with him
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Originally posted by kopiosatu:
yes.
but he was successful for germany only because of the current coach of germany
kinda like how benitez sux so bad after paco ayesteran left
like how brian clough did horribly when peter taylor wasn't with him
oh i see.
anyone notice stevie is being different these days?
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Originally posted by limpper:
oh i see.
anyone notice stevie is being different these days?
clearly instructions by benitez
1) let the rest defend when you lose the ball
2) don't waste energy running around the pitch because when the team wins the ball, gerrard should be in position to receive it and connect with torres
gerrard doesn't decide to stop running all over the pitch overnight one lah
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Originally posted by kopiosatu:
clearly instructions by benitez
1) let the rest defend when you lose the ball
2) don't waste energy running around the pitch because when the team wins the ball, gerrard should be in position to receive it and connect with torres
gerrard doesn't decide to stop running all over the pitch overnight one lah
but this tactic works only for at most 2 seasons.
other teams will understand it soon after being beaten by it once or twice.
funny enough, kop fans on the other side of the globe thinks that all the faults is with the current owners, not rafael.
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Originally posted by limpper:
but this tactic works only for at most 2 seasons.
other teams will understand it soon after being beaten by it once or twice.
funny enough, kop fans on the other side of the globe thinks that all the faults is with the current owners, not rafael.
they see and hear things that we don't
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The british recognised him for his past glories.
We saw what he is doing now and what further harm he can create.
They are more compassionate, we are more unforgiving.
With their low expectation, it is no wonder why Liverpool can never win BPL.
For us, if you dun perform, out you go.
Same for the guy who preaches CBF.
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Originally posted by limpper:
that's such thing called mutual termination
if rafa wanted to quit, he could have just done it a long time ago given that the owners are proven liars.. -
Originally posted by limpper:
but this tactic works only for at most 2 seasons.
other teams will understand it soon after being beaten by it once or twice.
funny enough, kop fans on the other side of the globe thinks that all the faults is with the current owners, not rafael.
lol. n strangely,those fans on the other side of the globe tinks that lucas still can make it as a liverpool player leh... -
i won't say that they are more forgiving
i won't say that they are "wrong" too
the people there are supporting their hometown team and they can see what is happening (e.g. training sessions...)
while we are just sitting here reading tabloids and watching it on tv
that's why i say, they see and hear things that we don't