why u bother with creationist nonsense. they been perpetuating the lie, fallacy and delusion for the past 2 millenniums already. I pity those people who bought the lie and fallacy.
they can say whatever they want to claim. anyone can claim anything, even a mad man can claim to have seen chang er in the moon.
A world without strangers Jacky.
Originally posted by Aneslayer:You said that because you could not see the fallacity of the creationists arguments or could not reconcile it to be. The one side acknowledges certain facts/ evidences while the other having the capacity to embrace the totality of it.
*Ignores assumptions on my alledged lacking
Firstly you failed to show the alleged fallacies in the creationist arguments, or that we could not reconcile things, though to be sure there are things still to be explained and researched.
Secondly, creationists embrace ALL the evidences and facts but interpret them through the Biblical worldview, which again makes better sense of it all than the evolutionary view.
Thirdly, it is convenient cop out to ignore things that are being pointed out that exposes your ignorance.
Originally posted by Jacky Woo:they can say whatever they want to claim. anyone can claim anything, even a mad man can claim to have seen chang er in the moon.
Or that nothing can create everything and that nonliving matter can turn into living things given lots of time.
Originally posted by Jacky Woo:why u bother with creationist nonsense. they been perpetuating the lie, fallacy and delusion for the past 2 millenniums already. I pity those people who bought the lie and fallacy.
Question begging epithets, Jacky.
Originally posted by BroInChrist:Firstly you failed to show the alleged fallacies in the creationist arguments, or that we could not reconcile things, though to be sure there are things still to be explained and researched.
Secondly, creationists embrace ALL the evidences and facts but interpret them through the Biblical worldview, which again makes better sense of it all than the evolutionary view.
Thirdly, it is convenient cop out to ignore things that are being pointed out that exposes your ignorance.
That is so easily said by someone who was proven by past record in these forums to yet display ANY signs of understanding of fallacies when heaps of definitions and examples was presented. All concerning parties but you accepted this as fact.
The creationists picked and chose occurances that suit their believes and fervently reject the others. Example: banana.
And its easy to assume ignorance of others to be true born of prejudice. You just showed that you failed to see yourself before seeing others once again. Time to plank.
Originally posted by Aneslayer:
That is so easily said by someone who was proven by past record in these forums to yet display ANY signs of understanding of fallacies when heaps of definitions and examples was presented. All concerning parties but you accepted this as fact.
The creationists picked and chose occurances that suit their believes and fervently reject the others. Example: banana.
And its easy to assume ignorance of others to be true born of prejudice. You just showed that you failed to see yourself before seeing others once again. Time to plank.
Your kind of allegations is EASY to make, substantiating it is another matter altogether. Of course all concerning parties you are referring to would be those of your ilk, like Jacky, Beta, laurence82 who are already prejudiced against my views etc etc. I won't be surprised if they all stand on your side and nod their heads rigorously.
As for your ignorance, I think it is more than just an assumption, it was shown again and again how you, and those of your ilk as well, repeatedly failed to be aware of what the Bible teaches and what creationists are saying. Was it you who mentioned the Flood was only about so many days and I had to tell you it was about a year long?
Originally posted by BroInChrist:Your kind of allegations is EASY to make, substantiating it is another matter altogether. Of course all concerning parties you are referring to would be those of your ilk, like Jacky, Beta, laurence82 who are already prejudiced against my views etc etc. I won't be surprised if they all stand on your side and nod their heads rigorously.
As for your ignorance, I think it is more than just an assumption, it was shown again and again how you, and those of your ilk as well, repeatedly failed to be aware of what the Bible teaches and what creationists are saying. Was it you who mentioned the Flood was only about so many days and I had to tell you it was about a year long?
"Your kind of allegations is EASY to make, substantiating it is another matter altogether. Of course all concerning parties you are referring to would be those of your ilk, like Jacky, Beta, laurence82 who are already prejudiced against my views etc etc. I won't be surprised if they all stand on your side and nod their heads rigorously."
I wasn't talking about them... Concerning parties like the christians here. Lurking but silent most of the time. Assumptions like those you made just reflects how prejudiced you equally are.
"As for your ignorance, I think it is more than just an assumption, it was shown again and again how you, and those of your ilk as well, repeatedly failed to be aware of what the Bible teaches and what creationists are saying. Was it you who mentioned the Flood was only about so many days and I had to tell you it was about a year long?"
It was a way of progressive argument, if it was a proven, fact why was there an arguement then? And you still call me ignorant over things passed... still prejudiced or a intended ad hominem?
One would be corrected in many ways and still be ignorant of plenty of things. Thats how one keep learning. There is another term for continuously refusing correction... just couldnt find a word for it.... stiff necked.
Current example: your reply to Jacky a few post earlier. He was not making a argument to me. He was plainly voicing his opinions to me and no one else however openly. Not begging the question... your assumed position hence, was constructing a strawman projected from your own view of what he said... Constructive, not.
After a couple of "no u"'s, begging questions, strawmans and ad hominems from you, lets divert back on topic... Saw the video of how to correctly interpret the tree rings and conclude the chronology of 11000~ years? Argue on logically, non fallacy style please. The bible did not prove otherwise. Keyword: prove.
I LOL when I saw this thread. evidence LOL. delusional and utter nonsense of the highest order. what a joke
Ricky Gervais on Noah's Ark
How did Noah manage to put Peking dog and Irish terrier into the boat ?
These 2 species are thousands of miles apart.
Strange, no ?
no idea. how on earth do you expect the fogey old man from Middle East to know this LOL. has he been to china before? hell no.
Originally posted by Aneslayer:"Your kind of allegations is EASY to make, substantiating it is another matter altogether. Of course all concerning parties you are referring to would be those of your ilk, like Jacky, Beta, laurence82 who are already prejudiced against my views etc etc. I won't be surprised if they all stand on your side and nod their heads rigorously."
I wasn't talking about them... Concerning parties like the christians here. Lurking but silent most of the time. Assumptions like those you made just reflects how prejudiced you equally are.
"As for your ignorance, I think it is more than just an assumption, it was shown again and again how you, and those of your ilk as well, repeatedly failed to be aware of what the Bible teaches and what creationists are saying. Was it you who mentioned the Flood was only about so many days and I had to tell you it was about a year long?"
It was a way of progressive argument, if it was a proven, fact why was there an arguement then? And you still call me ignorant over things passed... still prejudiced or a intended ad hominem?
One would be corrected in many ways and still be ignorant of plenty of things. Thats how one keep learning. There is another term for continuously refusing correction... just couldnt find a word for it.... stiff necked.
Current example: your reply to Jacky a few post earlier. He was not making a argument to me. He was plainly voicing his opinions to me and no one else however openly. Not begging the question... your assumed position hence, was constructing a strawman projected from your own view of what he said... Constructive, not.After a couple of "no u"'s, begging questions, strawmans and ad hominems from you, lets divert back on topic... Saw the video of how to correctly interpret the tree rings and conclude the chronology of 11000~ years? Argue on logically, non fallacy style please. The bible did not prove otherwise. Keyword: prove.
So which of the "concerning Christians" are you referring to? Oh I see, the unnamed unknown silent majority. You mean the atheists here are not prejudiced against my views? Have you checked with Jacky and the rest? Actually no need to check also, it's plainly evident.
Progressive argument???? You really have a way of making yourself look good even after being exposed for your errors and ignorance. That the Bible teaches a Flood that lasted at least a year is something that can be verified from Scripture, if you bothered to read it diligently and intelligently. Probably a reflection of stiff-neckedness?
Nope. Did not see the video on tree rings. You hardly reciprocate on the things I ask you to see or read anyway. But the point is, and you haven't answered me, how does tree rings tell you about the history of the world? It is simplistic to count rings and think you are counting age one ring at a time. See http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=9&article=464
Originally posted by laffin123:How did Noah manage to put Peking dog and Irish terrier into the boat ?
These 2 species are thousands of miles apart.
Strange, no ?
Who told you that there were Peking dog and Irish terriers on the ark?
Please read http://creation.com/a-pair-of-dogs-wolves-on-noahs-ark-couldnt-have-produced-all-dog-varieties-today
Originally posted by alize:
Using emotional words like "genocide" is one way of diverting people from the main reason for the Flood, that it was a divine judgement by a Holy God on sinful men.
you see their reply, really makes me think how delusional and far fetch their thinking and belief system are. have a brain, but seem to be brain dead. whats the use of having a brain if they cant even think, analyse and decifer which is real, false and unreal.
Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Using emotional words like "genocide" is one way of diverting people from the main reason for the Flood, that it was a divine judgement by a Holy God on sinful men.
An unust punishment of sinful men and sinless animals.
If this is your god's justice I want no part in it.
Originally posted by alize:An unust punishment of sinful men and sinless animals.
If this is your god's justice I want no part in it.
god? what? where? when? figment of their imagination
Originally posted by BroInChrist:Who told you that there were Peking dog and Irish terriers on the ark?
Please read http://creation.com/a-pair-of-dogs-wolves-on-noahs-ark-couldnt-have-produced-all-dog-varieties-today
Who told you that it were dogs and wolves ?
Originally posted by Jacky Woo:god? what? where? when? figment of their imagination
Too imaginative. And modern theists has to come up with so many weird explanation to cover up. Should just say it is a fable and the end.
Originally posted by laffin123:How told you that it were dogs and wolves ?
if i were you, I wouldnt want to bother on the type of animals. this whole thing Noah Ark is ridiculous in the first place, not to mention a blood thirsty imaginative god wants to murder the world? this whole thing is a made belief lar, invented just like fairy and superman in DC comics.
Originally posted by alize:An unust punishment of sinful men and sinless animals.
If this is your god's justice I want no part in it.
Unjust unjust, injustice. Even in these days and times the evil prevails among those christians who do evil and poor things are those people who they sacrify or attack for their selfish victory. Same as the innocent animals who were killed in the flood during Noah's times, these people whom the evil christians prey on are just "items" for their sacrify for their victory gain. And for "Justice" judgment from God for these they have to wait for his second coming. Many have been sacrificed while waiting for the second coming judgment. Conclusion is NO JUSTICE !
Originally posted by Jacky Woo:if i were you, I wouldnt want to bother on the type of animals. this whole thing Noah Ark is ridiculous in the first place, not to mention a blood thirsty imaginative god wants to murder the world? this whole thing is a made belief lar, invented just like fairy and superman in DC comics.
You don't know, this kind of so called god is selfish, unfair, no justice......