another outing ah!
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u want respect, to be recognized. why do you not want it? to live under the shoes of ppl forever? to be despised, its not fun.Originally posted by laurence82:why you need respect from a bunch of people whom one think are idiots or whatever?
this is where inferiority complex comes in
because you would have thought them of as superior in the first place
experience makes a better man, not make one worse off
we see ourselves as equal, so we see injustice in being disrespected. -
LOL.. no la, knee injury..Originally posted by laurence82:seriously u broke ur back?
too rough lar u
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so, would u like to be in the shoes of 30k - XX of JC students, who are simply labelled a lot of things because they are JC students, altho they maybe innocent?Originally posted by stellazio:u want respect, to be recognized. why do you not want it? to live under the shoes of ppl forever? to be despised, its not fun.
we see ourselves as equal, so we see injustice in being disrespected.
how can two wrongs make one right?
we all want justice, but refused the justice to others? a bit hypocritical? -
doggy style bad for kneesOriginally posted by stellazio:LOL.. no la, knee injury.. -
well, for sure, there are definitely more elitist then what we see out there. but what to do, some people likes to drag down others..Originally posted by laurence82:so, would u like to be in the shoes of 30k - XX of JC students, who are simply labelled a lot of things because they are JC students, altho they maybe innocent?
how can two wrongs make one right?
we all want justice, but refused the justice to others? a bit hypocritical?
while we can't blame the whole JC cohort, we can;t deny it either, that alot of em do look down on others. -
not much of a choice..Originally posted by laurence82:doggy style bad for knees -
so you want justice or you want reality?Originally posted by stellazio:well, for sure, there are definitely more elitist then what we see out there. but what to do, some people likes to drag down others..
while we can't blame the whole JC cohort, we can;t deny it either, that alot of em do look down on others.
justice is where you accord the fairness to the right person, you know some are elitist , you can choose to target those instead of the whole bunch of innocent people
or you want reality, you get looked down unfairly, you drag the whole JC cohort, label them, says thats the way everyone do it
you cant be wanting justice because you were treated like a dog, but at the same time not accord that justice and fairness to those innocent people?
so which is it?
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be a faithful missionary larOriginally posted by stellazio:not much of a choice.. -
then again, being egostic as you are, i am sure u will not accept my answers however justified they are.Originally posted by laurence82:a) since you admitted its the personal opinion, then its declared biased since its not the truth
(analogy: i set shares A will rise; turn out it didn't; so u say i am bias towards shares A? i didn't say my persona opinions are bias, you say tmy views are bias, those are your views, non of my business.
b) again, your views are your views, but you have no right to air your views in other people place ,especially when they told you so before, also its already childish to pursue a personal agenda, making libellous remarks like you own the whole world
this is a childish behaviour frankly
wth, if i cannot air my views anywhere on a forum, then the forums will be with all statistics and graphs and philoshopy. no human touch to it
your personal agenda is to make me shut up, isn't that childish as well? you take the whole damn outing thread and make it as your "Arena" even though i volunteer to pull out from this soon to heated up debate during that time.
c) no rights to do so, you are doing in other people places, unless u tell me you own sgforums, so if i kill someone in timbuktu i can do it in singapore?
[color=red]jeez...as if those mods own whinehouse.sgforums. Jason owns sgforums. i will only shut up if he ask me to shut up
d) you are simply ignoring this. which should be used as an excuse not to justify your actions. in this very post you said personal opnion, therefore you need not justify, but earlier you said its because you felt i am attacking you, before that was back to personal opnion again, make up your mind
you really dun understand. personal opinion= my views on jc students / attacking me= why i don't want to defend my actions TO YOU
e) not justifiable
yes it is, as evident in you trying to "WIN" this debate using means like saying my debate skills sux instead of going about with the topic" plus other comments
if a thief is proven to stole something, like camera evidence, he is a thief, no matter how biased is the judge, similarly, if you cannot prove your point, you are trolling the forum like i said, whether or not i am biased
wait a minute, now its personal attacks again??
but you are already passing the verdict that i am guilty, what use is it to have camera evidence?
f) again, i have to repeat myself for the nth time, you recognise this forum is populated by JC students, you deliberately made such remarks, even papercut who know your history got pissed off, bad remarks including saying poly students would be left out, despite me already stating this forum has never divide along poly jc ite uni line
it wasnt your first such off the cuff remarks anyway
no. i DID not deliberately made such remarks because this is a jc forum(as eveident in my jc comments all over sgforums). you the one who make it seem so thus accusing me.
nope, i never said you should condemn JC students alone, although i think its childish, nevertheless my point is that you shouldnt fart in people's territory when they explicitly told u not to do so
jeez...papercut owns whinehouse?
polarsnake explicitly told u not to pursue this, but u insisted. fine, why are u farting in the mod polarsnake's forum?
again, you twisted my points, do not use that as an excuse for the personal opinions personal attacks issue
i have to show kindness, because you have answered my questions inadequately
you jolly well put all your points that u have in here.if not i can't shut u up -
i want justice in reality..lol..Originally posted by laurence82:so you want justice or you want reality?
justice is where you accord the fairness to the right person, you know some are elitist , you can choose to target those instead of the whole bunch of innocent people
or you want reality, you get looked down unfairly, you drag the whole JC cohort, label them, says thats the way everyone do it
you cant be wanting justice because you were treated like a dog, but at the same time not accord that justice and fairness to those innocent people?
so which is it?
well, we can't label the whole JC cohort, but neither can those elitist label the whole poly cohort right? so its like an eye for an eye.
hey they are innocent, but then again so are we. so how? flame la.. -
and please quote, u are wasting my time having to look thru everything while typing
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gdnight peeps.. gonna sleep now.
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go...talk to you another time.Originally posted by stellazio:gdnight peeps.. gonna sleep now. -
if i can point out why and what goes wrong, its justified
if i am egoistic, i would resort to labelling others egoistic and say they will not accept my answers
a) poor analogy. since you admitted its your personal opinion based on your own experience, its a biased view, its not the whole truth. simple as that. objective view are backed up and justified, and since you said you wouldnt...so...
b) wrong, i did not said you cannot air your views everywhere, for the xxxth time, you chose to air them in someone else place, their own modded forum, despite them telling you to shut your claptrap. if this forum belongs to you solely, i shut up straightaway
if u dare, i challenge you to go to someone house, a person whom you dislike or have biases, then air your views, not only that, repeatedly...lets see how he take it, i hope you will say you can air your views everywhere u like and demand he not chase you out of his house
c) there is a reason why there is subforum, if you can air everywhere, and do what ever u like, people no need set up subforms, there will be no such thing as close topic button, no edit button no delete topic button, you can even argue for bryanseb, because FireIce close his topics and ban him, go ahead, tell fireice bryanseb has the right to speak anything he wants
d) again, you have to choose the reason why you choose not to justify, is it because you cannot back it up, or because you feel i am personally attacking you?
e) there is a reason why i put a whole paragraph of reason after the statement not justifiable, you said instead of coment, but isnt my next paragraph of reason not clear, or you are ignoring them?
you know why your statements are so debatable? the truth is you are easily agitated, you look for simple subtle nuances which make you think i am personally attacking you, you are very 'moved' by these, this is why i can list reasons after reasons, while you look for these personal things
i never passed the verdict, how many times do i have to repeat, these statements were neutral, you kept using the excuses i am biased and personal attacking that you ignore the reasons after that
like i said, with evidence or logic, something can be justified, no need to resort to using personal attacks as an excuse to get away from it all
i never said you made such a remark because this is a jc forum, i repeat, this is not a jc forum, how to continue debating, if i am to repeat my points all over again
yesh, u made stinging remarks, you made them said it, paprcut reminded u to shut ur claptrap? not stinging???
she told us not to pursue this, but she didnt said you were right? whatever i do, i apologised for it and made the reason clear why i am holding this no holds barred dragged down discussion with u, i find it useful, and it will benefit her though, becos then people wouldnt leave their fart in her territory again
i have put points so nicely for two three pages, if you miss them, i cant do nuthing ab it it, this point from a to f i also have to put for you
and you cant seems to ans it adequately -
so you want justice or reality?Originally posted by stellazio:i want justice in reality..lol..
well, we can't label the whole JC cohort, but neither can those elitist label the whole poly cohort right? so its like an eye for an eye.
hey they are innocent, but then again so are we. so how? flame la..
actually the third point i mentioned abt wanting justice and reality, its actually should be classified under self interest
i dont mind people admitting they are looking for their self interest, but its hypocritical enough to want justice and not accord them fairly -
u guys had to argue the whole night and the wee hours of morning?
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no needOriginally posted by R3SsH|n:and please quote, u are wasting my time having to look thru everything while typing
i quoted for you, yet you missed them
what is the point
thats why i deliberately repeated my points from a to f, and they are written fresh, not copied and paste
like i said, i know what i want and mean, if you cant answer them adequately, instead of resorting to excuses of egoism and and run away by saying i personally attack u, i will stand by my points -
somebody asked for itOriginally posted by StarPuppy:u guys had to argue the whole night and the wee hours of morning?
he should be taken to task for it -
r3sshin, i dunno whats ur war against JC people..i dunno its if u hate the behaviour of JC students (yes..i know some of them are stuck up/snob SOBs)
and also i am too lazy to read all the 9 pages of war u have with JC but u do understand ur war against JC students has made urself a very unhappy person because u think u are a whole fighter (like some kind of fighter in a holy war against JC students) against JC students..can't u just live with it that in the next 100 years, they are going to be there...
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i am quite impatient
you are dragging me thru this process, refused to justify your actions, sweep everything else to personal attacks and egoism when i already written down the reasons for it, repeated your statement though i rebutted it
i will give you until 6.30 am
you will take either option
a) cease and desist all your anti jc trolling in this forum
or
b) refused to do so, failing which i wholly reserve the right to call you a troll -
all i can see is because a stupid war which has totally destroyed the TS intention to start a outing..i guess the TS mood is also much pretty fuc*ed up byt thisOriginally posted by laurence82:somebody asked for it
he should be taken to task for it -
frankly speaking..IMO
there are some SOBS jc students however those i met in the forum are pretty much quite friendly..as to why r3sshin is launching a mass war against them..i will read it when i get back from school..i dun have the time to waste reading 9 posts
spoilt my morning anyway..i tot got outing end up is debate -
yes you are rightOriginally posted by StarPuppy:r3sshin, i dunno whats ur war against JC people..i dunno its if u hate the behaviour of JC students (yes..i know some of them are stuck up/snob SOBs)
and also i am too lazy to read all the 9 pages of war u have with JC but u do understand ur war against JC students has made urself a very unhappy person because u think u are a whole fighter (like some kind of fighter in a holy war against JC students) against JC students..can't u just live with it that in the next 100 years, they are going to be there...
this sort of thing i have seen before
it will lead to deep rooted biases, and i have personally seen people go psychologically mad over it, and i am telling everyone these people i saw are from sgforums
they are always against the rich, the JCs, or whatever, but some i went outing with before, some i debated with personally
some admitted they sought medical attention from psychologists, one chap refused to do so, others are probably MIA and lost
biases and deep rooted views like these harden over time, and seriously mentally taxing -
since he like to call then call lor. i will still be having my good sleep
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u dun fcuking u leave. if u have no patience, thats not my problem. u want an answer, u jolly well wait for it.Originally posted by laurence82:i am quite impatient
you are dragging me thru this process, refused to justify your actions, sweep everything else to personal attacks and egoism when i already written down the reasons for it, repeated your statement though i rebutted it
i will give you until 6.30 am
you will take either option
a) cease and desist all your anti jc trolling in this forum
or
b) refused to do so, failing which i wholly reserve the right to call you a troll
if u cannot wait for it, that means u have lost this debate.
i am willing to spend a whole 12 hours with you...why don't you do so?