Circle Line Stages 1 & 2
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But the wooden wall makes no sense to me.
I mean, look how fast they walled up Bishan SB platform when they switched to the new one!
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Originally posted by sgbuses:
But the wooden wall makes no sense to me.
I mean, look how fast they walled up Bishan SB platform when they switched to the new one!
If they are abandoning the unopened platform, they should have seal up the current wooden planks with concrete wall, unless LTA thinks it is not worth wasting the unopened platform and modify it in future. :s -
Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
3: Used for a future line, but not DTL. If that is going to happen, then, chances are, the track towards Bayfront is a dead end becoz there wont be a overrun which will need to make a junction. I doubt the feasibility to do so given that the terminus are usually given a great length of overrun in case of emergency / train faults.
Edit: If that will be the case, a MRT terminus without overrun, it would be like a Bukit Panjang LRT at Choa Chu Kang except without an approaching track cutting to its direction. But is that LRT a CBTC system or what?
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Notice something last train terminates at Mountbatten not Dhoby Ghaut.
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Originally posted by youyuan:
Notice something last train terminates at Mountbatten not Dhoby Ghaut.
This is what I would like to say as well. Between Mountbatten & Stadium got a middle track sliding all the way, just like Farrer Park & Little India (Not really EWL Outram Park). This is why Mountbatten can be terminus for the daily last train AND I specluate, there is a chance either Stadium OR Mountbatten can become CCLe Shuttle terminus, apart of Marina Bay.
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
This is what I would like to say as well. Between Mountbatten & Stadium got a middle track sliding all the way, just like Farrer Park & Little India (Not really EWL Outram Park). This is why Mountbatten can be terminus for the daily last train AND I specluate, there is a chance either Stadium OR Mountbatten can become CCLe Shuttle terminus, apart of Marina Bay.
Possible. Just to add on, the siding looks like it's about 200m long. If there are 2 ATP blocks, it might actually accomodate 2 trains at once.
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Originally posted by NickLim™:
The line really curves after the station. I might be right after all, or yet another possibility is that it links to DTL.
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My 2 cents thought.
If the Bayfront leg is to be eventually placed under DTL, there would be not rational to have Stadium - Bayfront kind of leg, it will only confuse people as DTL commences revenue.
Also schedule wise, it's going to be messy just like wat happened to CGA line before it was downgraded into a spur feeder line.
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circle line fare more exp to me
compare to taking a bus
Might not be faster compare to
bus also le
All depend on the route
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Originally posted by noahnoah:
circle line fare more exp to me
compare to taking a bus
Might not be faster compare to
bus also le
All depend on the route
yeahsay from Potong Pasir to Toa Payoh via NEL, CCL & NSL can cost $1.35
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Originally posted by sbst275:
yeahsay from Potong Pasir to Toa Payoh via NEL, CCL & NSL can cost $1.35
Someone said Ang Mo Kio and Hougang so near, need to travel from Bishan > Lorong Chuan > Serangoon > Kovan > Hougang :(
Bus more faster!
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Originally posted by NickLim™:
I got this off LTA's website, DTL section.
If this plan is not editted, the siding leads to DTL. How now?
this diagram isnt conclusive since it isnt a full-fledged technical schematic illustrating the routes of tunnels on both platforms. if we were to try and infer anything from here, it is that the current platform being used now has a Y-split. and the unused platforms have nothing.
in the schematic that I posted, the unused platforms are shown as empty with no tunnels running out of it. so where that tunnel leads remain unanswered. from its angle it may be a cross-track onto DTL but it is really just my guess. remember that this tunnel isnt designed for DTL nor CCL use right from the start.
and yes I understand trains from both lines can inter-operate if signals are compatible. the question now is we cannot confirm if CCL and DTL are using compatible signalling. if I have to make a guess again, I will say yes, reason being Alstom and ST Electronics, the turnkey contractor for CCL, will be doing E&M for DTL as well.
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Originally posted by youyuan:
Notice something last train terminates at Mountbatten not Dhoby Ghaut.
They may be training on LTE or Evening Peak!!!
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According to the 27 march straits times, they said it is to facilitate the transfer to DTL.
But based on my observation, i think that when ccl extension open, the dhoby ghaut to promenade route is just a shuttle. If u have noticed it, when the train departs for dbg, there is a track leading straight to a wall.
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Originally posted by Tranzort08:
According to the 27 march straits times, they said it is to facilitate the transfer to DTL.
But based on my observation, i think that when ccl extension open, the dhoby ghaut to promenade route is just a shuttle. If u have noticed it, when the train departs for dbg, there is a track leading straight to a wall.
Dhoby Ghaut leg will become a spur shuttle unless govt goes on to link up HBF & Promenade into a real 'circle'.Else it's unlikely a CCL Extn or CCL shuttle will occur.
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maybe the CCLe becomes CCL stage 6 i guess
just that LTA names it CCLe at the beginning
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Wow this is a complicated debate...
Here's my take after reading... According to Samuel, DTL is going to have a new platform and according to one of the plans I saw earlier, DTL is even lower than the current platform we saw during open house.
I conclude that the boarded up platform is for CCLe (or stage 6 I would too presume). I think so too because it was mention earlier that there are provisions for a 90 odd degree right turn from ESP to bayfront (This prolly answered my question about a branching segment i saw from ESP to Promenade on the right side.
And if this holds true, I think (just a guess) that running CCL would be like running the BPLRT. DBG to ESP is like CCK to Bukit Panjang (ESP is bukit panjang here) the lines split into 2 after ESP like service A and B, one gg to Bayfront while the other goes to Promenade.
As for the mysterious boarded up platform, could there be services that just run in a circle? (gg round the whole circle without gg to DBG via ESP) I'm just making this up as i go along. So this full circle thingy could be sort of a 3rd service.
Am I making any sense here? shoot me down if I'm talking gibberish =) But I do think that would be quite a feasible way to run the circle line as there are 3 different services to ply every direction.
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Originally posted by SMRT 32373238:
Wow this is a complicated debate...
Here's my take after reading... According to Samuel, DTL is going to have a new platform and according to one of the plans I saw earlier, DTL is even lower than the current platform we saw during open house.
I conclude that the boarded up platform is for CCLe (or stage 6 I would too presume). I think so too because it was mention earlier that there are provisions for a 90 odd degree right turn from ESP to bayfront (This prolly answered my question about a branching segment i saw from ESP to Promenade on the right side.
And if this holds true, I think (just a guess) that running CCL would be like running the BPLRT. DBG to ESP is like CCK to Bukit Panjang (ESP is bukit panjang here) the lines split into 2 after ESP like service A and B, one gg to Bayfront while the other goes to Promenade.
As for the mysterious boarded up platform, could there be services that just run in a circle? (gg round the whole circle without gg to DBG via ESP) I'm just making this up as i go along. So this full circle thingy could be sort of a 3rd service.
Am I making any sense here? shoot me down if I'm talking gibberish =) But I do think that would be quite a feasible way to run the circle line as there are 3 different services to ply every direction.
For continuous circle, trains will still use the current platform A & B because the unopened platforms have no link to Nicoll Highway station.Which means a great probability for trains to/fro BayFront & Esplanande to share the current platforms A & B.
It is up to LTA to plan something out for the unopened platforms.
Able to picture the scenario at Tanah Merah when Changi Airport line ran to/fro Boon Lay? Probably that's the case.
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Originally posted by SMRT 32373238:
Wow this is a complicated debate...
Here's my take after reading... According to Samuel, DTL is going to have a new platform and according to one of the plans I saw earlier, DTL is even lower than the current platform we saw during open house.
I conclude that the boarded up platform is for CCLe (or stage 6 I would too presume). I think so too because it was mention earlier that there are provisions for a 90 odd degree right turn from ESP to bayfront (This prolly answered my question about a branching segment i saw from ESP to Promenade on the right side.
And if this holds true, I think (just a guess) that running CCL would be like running the BPLRT. DBG to ESP is like CCK to Bukit Panjang (ESP is bukit panjang here) the lines split into 2 after ESP like service A and B, one gg to Bayfront while the other goes to Promenade.
As for the mysterious boarded up platform, could there be services that just run in a circle? (gg round the whole circle without gg to DBG via ESP) I'm just making this up as i go along. So this full circle thingy could be sort of a 3rd service.
Am I making any sense here? shoot me down if I'm talking gibberish =) But I do think that would be quite a feasible way to run the circle line as there are 3 different services to ply every direction.
Not really. I would read it as Harbourfront via (IF CCLe / Stage 6 is fully constructed as a full circle) Marina Bay via Bayfront is CCK then Promendae is BPJ. Dhoby Ghaut - ESP will be Ten Mile Junction. But there are certain things that is cannot be using BPLRT as direct comparison.
PS: It is not possible for Bayfront to turn to Esplandae without via Promendae, as there is no provisional crossover for that.
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
PS: It is not possible for Bayfront to turn to Esplandae without via Promendae, as there is no provisional crossover for that.
Look carefully when travelling from Esplanade to Promenade to your right just before the train turns left. It's a flat wall. Before that there's a green fence. No tracks yet, maybe no tunnels yet. But I'm sure there's a use for it. since it's quite odd for the tunnel wall to curve nicely away from the track.
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Originally posted by NickLim™:
Look carefully when travelling from Esplanade to Promenade to your right just before the train turns left. It's a flat wall. Before that there's a green fence. No tracks yet, maybe no tunnels yet. But I'm sure there's a use for it. since it's quite odd for the tunnel wall to curve nicely away from the track.
O ya, the green fence. It is weird, but does that mean that the tunnel can be extended there? I doubt so, becoz, there is a wall blocking it, if I did not remember wrongly.
But if your theory is correct, then the unused platform will go straight, forming a slanted X crossover with current Circle Main Line, then heading a straight towards Bayfront or whatever, which is a running parallel as the current Promendae overrun.
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
O ya, the green fence. It is weird, but does that mean that the tunnel can be extended there? I doubt so, becoz, there is a wall blocking it, if I did not remember wrongly.
But if your theory is correct, then the unused platform will go straight, forming a slanted X crossover with current Circle Main Line, then heading a straight towards Bayfront or whatever, which is a running parallel as the current Promendae overrun.
Isn't that what I posted?
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Originally posted by NickLim™:
Isn't that what I posted?
I see, I had misread the earlier diagram again. But I think that between the main line overrun and the parallel track's crossover will be done at somewhere further out of scale instead of too close to Promendae (Was that your second possibility?)
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
I see, I had misread the earlier diagram again. But I think that between the main line overrun and the parallel track's crossover will be done at somewhere further out of scale instead of too close to Promendae (Was that your second possibility?)
It's a diagram. *facepalm* Not a geographically-accurate representation. Grr. In fact, I tried to make it so that the way the track turns can be visible to the untrained eye. Real track diagrams have no main lines running vertically, only horizontally and diagonally.
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
I see, I had misread the earlier diagram again. But I think that between the main line overrun and the parallel track's crossover will be done at somewhere further out of scale instead of too close to Promendae (Was that your second possibility?)
NOTE: Not to scale.