She dropped out of JC to study nursing
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Weird... why would we need two schools of nursing offering the same diploma?
I know the govt spent millions building the nursing labs and all other facilities for us in NYP. Is there a need to spend money duplicating resources?
Oh wait... I geddit... too many nurses quit every year, so there IS a need to train that many nurses annually!
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Originally posted by Rhonda:
Weird... why would we need two schools of nursing offering the same diploma?
I know the govt spent millions building the nursing labs and all other facilities for us in NYP. Is there a need to spend money duplicating resources?
Oh wait... I geddit... too many nurses quit every year, so there IS a need to train that many nurses annually!
else why would they let Ngee Ann Poly to start e nursing dip
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Originally posted by sbst275:
else why would they let Ngee Ann Poly to start e nursing dipBiangz... they would rather spend money and resources training new staff, and then watch them leave, and then train even more new staff...
Vicious cycle... but good for the economy because it generates jobs for nursing lecturers and nursing educators!
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Originally posted by Rhonda:
Biangz... they would rather spend money and resources training new staff, and then watch them leave, and then train even more new staff...
Vicious cycle... but good for the economy because it generates jobs for nursing lecturers and nursing educators!
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Originally posted by shrekho:
Brilliant.... But what do you think would be a better way of keeping them in the long run?Too many ways :
- improve flexibility of rostering;
- improve wages and benefits;
- educating the public that abuse of nurses will not be tolerated;
- eradicate the bullying of junior staff;
- Ward Sisters to stop treating their subordinates like slaves;
- stop the blame culture; and
- ease the workload.
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smart move... nurse is in high demand... can even get u US citizenship...
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Originally posted by BrUtUs:
smart move... nurse is in high demand... can even get u US citizenship...
Well, Singapore nurses who intend to migrate to the States might want to consider sitting for the mandatory NCLEX-RN licencing exam soon after graduation. Otherwise, you'd have to revise the entire syllabus all over again just to sit for the exam.
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Originally posted by Rhonda:
Well, Singapore nurses who intend to migrate to the States might want to consider sitting for the mandatory NCLEX-RN licencing exam soon after graduation. Otherwise, you'd have to revise the entire syllabus all over again just to sit for the exam.
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Originally posted by BrUtUs:
wow... guess they wan a QC 1st...Kinda... even American nurses who graduate from American universities need to sit for the NCLEX-RN, so it's only fair that foreign nurses have to as well.
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Originally posted by Rhonda:
Too many ways :
- improve flexibility of rostering;
- improve wages and benefits;
- educating the public that abuse of nurses will not be tolerated;
- eradicate the bullying of junior staff;
- Ward Sisters to stop treating their subordinates like slaves;
- stop the blame culture; and
- ease the workload.
Nice, but how many of them can actually be adopted into Singapore Hospitals?
If I recall correctly, Singapore is a non-welfare state. I am not sure where the salary of the doctors and nurses come from, but I remember that the hospital needs to break even at the end of the month. Thus, better wages might be out of the question?
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Originally posted by Rhonda:
Biangz... they would rather spend money and resources training new staff, and then watch them leave, and then train even more new staff...
Vicious cycle... but good for the economy because it generates jobs for nursing lecturers and nursing educators!
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Originally posted by shrekho:
Nice, but how many of them can actually be adopted into Singapore Hospitals?
If I recall correctly, Singapore is a non-welfare state. I am not sure where the salary of the doctors and nurses come from, but I remember that the hospital needs to break even at the end of the month. Thus, better wages might be out of the question?
Well, I don't care much for rationalising about this issue. I just voted with my feet, and so have many other Singaporean nurses and foreign nurses who used to work in Singapore.
I listed things that can be improved on simply because you were curious, not that I had any faith whatsoever that any of the points I raised would ever be considered nor come to fruition. I seriously doubt that things will improve much for nurses in Singapore, and seriously, it is no longer my problem too because I am happy working here.
It's not just wages that's a bugbear with Singapore nurses and if you look through my list, salary is just one of several factors.
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Originally posted by Rhonda:
Well, I don't care much for rationalising about this issue. I just voted with my feet, and so have many other Singaporean nurses and foreign nurses who used to work in Singapore.
I listed things that can be improved on simply because you were curious, not that I had any faith whatsoever that any of the points I raised would ever be considered nor come to fruition. I seriously doubt that things will improve much for nurses in Singapore, and seriously, it is no longer my problem too because I am happy working here.
It's not just wages that's a bugbear with Singapore nurses and if you look through my list, salary is just one of several factors.
Well, I do agree with you life as a "Missy" is damn sh!t. I was talking to my friend's wife, and the agony of occupation hazzard starts in the hospital. Spine injuries, loose knees pelvic pain etc.... Sad isn't it?
I guess it is difficult to balance the whole picture. I am not questioning your points, as I do believe that changes must be made to maintain a healthy workforce. Just like some IT coys, major overhaul happened to keep the talents.
My point now? Doubt things will move or change until the day we become a much better welfare state, not just for nursing, but for many other fields.
Anyway, I hope the girl who left 'A' levels for nursing, happiness.
:)
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You know, I've been thinking about this statement of yours about welfare states being the reason why nurses and doctors are well-paid.
It's not true. I don't even work in the public sector, and yet, working conditions are better than back in SG.
I think it's more an issue of employees' rights in the workplace, as well as a matter of a powerful union fighting for better working conditions.
Equally important is the fact that patients will not be allowed to mistreat the nurses.
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Hey all,
This is a pretty interesting discussion going down here! Nurses in Australia are highly respected and I, too respect nurses judging by their dedication and passion for their jobs. My university nurse has her own office and she's the one who actually administers all the injections.
In today's society, nurses are given much more responsibilities and roles in the medical profession. There has been some revision in the nursing degree's cirriculum and there might be even a 4 year nursing degree in the near future whereby highly-specialised nurses take on some of the doctor roles in rural areas( I read about this in my textbook, "The Australian Health Care System") Apparently, the state of New South Wales have gone through a series of pilot programs under the general rubric of 'nurse practitioner'.
I believe Singapore should also give the same amount of respect and acknowledgement for our local nurses.
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One of you mentioned when some of your peers saw the cadavers, they were petrified. Suprisingly, my classmates had no dramatic reactions at all. Strange...
I'm actually trying to learn the anatomy of the anterior thigh now after the dissection, I guess I need someone to accompany me to study...
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Originally posted by Vince Disel:
Hey all,
This is a pretty interesting discussion going down here! Nurses in Australia are highly respected and I, too respect nurses judging by their dedication and passion for their jobs. My university nurse has her own office and she's the one who actually administers all the injections.
In today's society, nurses are given much more responsibilities and roles in the medical profession. There has been some revision in the nursing degree's cirriculum and there might be even a 4 year nursing degree in the near future whereby highly-specialised nurses take on some of the doctor roles in rural areas( I read about this in my textbook, "The Australian Health Care System") Apparently, the state of New South Wales have gone through a series of pilot programs under the general rubric of 'nurse practitioner'.
I believe Singapore should also give the same amount of respect and acknowledgement for our local nurses.
Sadly, back in SG, the nursing role, whilst no longer viewed as the 'handmaiden' role, is still not as challenged as the nursing role here in Australia and in the US.
I was told by a fireman here that he was extremely impressed by the MICA Paramedics here because they are the first respondents and they are actually 'like doctors'.
I've seen some really professional and specialised nurses at work here and I'm very impressed. And yes, because of the shortage of doctors in rural Australia, and because the nearest acute medical facility is often a distance away for these rural communities, Nurse Practitioners will be empowered to act like GP's because in emergencies, time is of the essence.
I think Singapore is pushing for their nurses to take on greater roles but without the requisite community support and acknowledgement, and without the requisite remuneration and resources, it will be slow to take off. We do have Nurse Practitioners now in Singapore but their roles are still diminished compared to their counterparts in other developed nations.
And, as for cadavars, these days, with what were once 'scary' scenes popping up all over the TV and internet, I think a lot of people are now desensitised to images that once upon a time were considered 'gross' and censored out of public view.
Really, WHAT is sacred these days?