Club 30's "Kill The Boredom Demon" Jive Pad, 52 Edition
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damn.. this is going to take longer than i thought..
and worse news, i gotta work this saturday
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the act of profiteeringOriginally posted by Wanda:Good morning, folks!
AV has a ....erm.....thicker hide?
Anyway, men have thicker skin than women. 
Poor honeymouse. Last Sat, I was commenting to SO about your condition being brought on by a tick (of all things!), and that I would be very very miserable if I were to itch for a month. My sympathies.
What gives Odex the right to invade personal info of ISP? Under what act is this?
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StarHub must give names of illegal anime downloadersOriginally posted by Wanda:Good morning, folks!
What gives Odex the right to invade personal info of ISP? Under what act is this?
Tuesday, 14th August 2007
Prime News, Straits Times
By Chua Hian Hou
The Singapore distributor of Japanese animated cartoons called anime has won the right to track down fans who download the programmes illegally using Starhub internet accounts.
A subordinate court has ordered the Telco to disclose the identity of about 1,000 of its subscribers accused of illegally downloading anime.
It is believed to be one of the largest crackdowns of illegal Internet downloading by home users in Singapore.
The recent hearing was held in a closed chamber session, so few details of the case are available publicly. The action was taken by local anime distributor ODEX.
Starhub had initially resisted the company’s efforts to get its customer data, said a spokesman for Telco, as it had "an obligation to protect our customer' information". But it now has no choice but to comply with the court order, as ODEX had “satisfied the court of its need for the information”.
Once ODEX obtains the identities of these Internet users from Starhub, it is expected to write to them demanding a settlement of up to $5,000 and a promise to stop further illegal downloading.
In May, ODEX went after 17 Singnet subscribers after obtaining a similar court order. It then sent more letters to an undisclosed number of other Singnet subscribers also accused of illegally downloading anime.
Odex Director Peter GO said a few infringers with financial difficulties were allowed to settle for about $1,000. He added that a number of those who had received the letter had engaged lawyers, but did not contest ODEX's case.
Having suceeded in getting SingNet and Starhub customer lists, ODEX will now go after customers of another internet service provider, Pacific Internet, in the subordinate courts later this week. It is understood ODEX has accused about 1,000 PacNet users of illegal downloading.
PacNet spokesman Bernard Ho, said the firm was "resisting the application" made by ODEX in court.
However, lawyers familiar with such applications say they have strong track record of sucess. But information obtained this way is not always useful to the plaintiff. For instance, the user may no longer be in the country.
Popular with both children and adults, the anime industry was worth as much as US$5 Billion ($7.5billion) world wide according to 2004 Business Week report. However, illegal downloads, available online since the late 1990s, have cut deeply into the profits of producers and distributers.
Mr Peter GO said the South Korean anime market, once the world's second largest after Japan, collapsed several years ago due to piracy problems.
This prompted Japanese studios making anime to band together to mount the crackdown here as they were worried Singapore, although not big a market, would end up the same way.
A 23 year old anime fan acknowledged that there some truth to Mr GO'S words. "At my peak a while ago, I used to download 5 to 10 gigabytes of anime a week, " said the undergraduate, who declined to be named. Now, he is resigned that his past will catch up with him.
"It's just a matter of time before I get the dreaded ODEX Letter."
Copyright © 2007 Singapore Press Holdings Ltd. Co. Regn No. 198402868E
They STILL do not realise that most people download because of the shitty product they put out at outrageous prices. Their subtitles are horrendous because they get freelancers to translate wholesale from hong kong chinese subtitles copied from other distributors' DVDs (hmmm....someone should sure Odex for this?) -
Fuck this, I'm going to buy region 1 anime DVDs from now on and get them shipped to a friend in the US, who will then copy then into DVDRs for me and send them back
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uhh.. most DVDs are dual-layer.. most DVDRs are single layer...Originally posted by av98m:Fuck this, I'm going to buy region 1 anime DVDs from now on and get them shipped to a friend in the US, who will then copy then into DVDRs for me and send them back
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You probably don't have such a sensitive skin as I do. That doesn't help.Originally posted by av98m:oh dear
if life was fair it'd be me down with all the rashes and itches eh, with all the crawling through bushes and close proximity to bugs
Anyway, I believe things happen for a reason. At least, I can feel for the liver cancer patients - apart from pain, they also suffer from itch because of all the toxins in their body.
Thanks Wanda for the sympathy! I feel sorry for my hubby as I think his sleep has been affected by me too. There are times when the itch got unbearable that I just broke down and cried in the middle of the night.Originally posted by Wanda:Good morning, folks!
AV has a ....erm.....thicker hide? Anyway, men have thicker skin than women.
Poor honeymouse. Last Sat, I was commenting to SO about your condition being brought on by a tick (of all things!), and that I would be very very miserable if I were to itch for a month. My sympathies.
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issit?Originally posted by the Bear:uhh.. most DVDs are dual-layer.. most DVDRs are single layer...
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I'm starting to think Odex is trying to claim their "lost" profits from the fines
No way am I going to buy from them
TOTAL BOYCOTT!!!!!
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yeah.. DVDRs are usually single layer.. 4.7GB
most DVDs are dual layer.. 8.5GB
however, you can buy dual layer discs and writers... my iMac comes with a dual layer writer...
as for Odex, sure
i still think there is a market in singapore and we can kill Odex -
I think I should make a list of DVDs to ask Missy to carry back
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CCB, so i was right.Originally posted by av98m:today's pap times reported that starhub has been ordered by our courts to surrender confidential customer data to Odex.
pacific internet is next.
starhub was helping its customers before. -
you know, it still doesn't answer how they tracked......Originally posted by av98m:StarHub must give names of illegal anime downloaders
Tuesday, 14th August 2007
Prime News, Straits Times
By Chua Hian Hou
The Singapore distributor of Japanese animated cartoons called anime has won the right to track down fans who download the programmes illegally using Starhub internet accounts.
A subordinate court has ordered the Telco to disclose the identity of about 1,000 of its subscribers accused of illegally downloading anime.
It is believed to be one of the largest crackdowns of illegal Internet downloading by home users in Singapore.
The recent hearing was held in a closed chamber session, so few details of the case are available publicly. The action was taken by local anime distributor ODEX.
Starhub had initially resisted the company’s efforts to get its customer data, said a spokesman for Telco, as it had "an obligation to protect our customer' information". But it now has no choice but to comply with the court order, as ODEX had “satisfied the court of its need for the information”.
Once ODEX obtains the identities of these Internet users from Starhub, it is expected to write to them demanding a settlement of up to $5,000 and a promise to stop further illegal downloading.
In May, ODEX went after 17 Singnet subscribers after obtaining a similar court order. It then sent more letters to an undisclosed number of other Singnet subscribers also accused of illegally downloading anime.
Odex Director Peter GO said a few infringers with financial difficulties were allowed to settle for about $1,000. He added that a number of those who had received the letter had engaged lawyers, but did not contest ODEX's case.
Having suceeded in getting SingNet and Starhub customer lists, ODEX will now go after customers of another internet service provider, Pacific Internet, in the subordinate courts later this week. It is understood ODEX has accused about 1,000 PacNet users of illegal downloading.
PacNet spokesman Bernard Ho, said the firm was "resisting the application" made by ODEX in court.
However, lawyers familiar with such applications say they have strong track record of sucess. But information obtained this way is not always useful to the plaintiff. For instance, the user may no longer be in the country.
Popular with both children and adults, the anime industry was worth as much as US$5 Billion ($7.5billion) world wide according to 2004 Business Week report. However, illegal downloads, available online since the late 1990s, have cut deeply into the profits of producers and distributers.
Mr Peter GO said the South Korean anime market, once the world's second largest after Japan, collapsed several years ago due to piracy problems.
This prompted Japanese studios making anime to band together to mount the crackdown here as they were worried Singapore, although not big a market, would end up the same way.
A 23 year old anime fan acknowledged that there some truth to Mr GO'S words. "At my peak a while ago, I used to download 5 to 10 gigabytes of anime a week, " said the undergraduate, who declined to be named. Now, he is resigned that his past will catch up with him.
"It's just a matter of time before I get the dreaded ODEX Letter."
Copyright © 2007 Singapore Press Holdings Ltd. Co. Regn No. 198402868E
They STILL do not realise that most people download because of the shitty product they put out at outrageous prices. Their subtitles are horrendous because they get freelancers to translate wholesale from hong kong chinese subtitles copied from other distributors' DVDs (hmmm....someone should sure Odex for this?)
anyway, welcome to singapore -
sibei sian, now i better pray i dun tio letter. ccb tiu na seng.
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puts starhub in a better light now i guessOriginally posted by stellazio:CCB, so i was right.
starhub was helping its customers before. -
Damit! I just got one of those "damn if you don't, and damn if you do " nonsense from boss...and of course, bosses always think they are right.
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Btw AV, who is yr lobang...the guy who made alot of money one
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i was handed a hugeass job a while ago.. somehow, i understand the thing, and will be able to write it out..
and she keeps interrupting me with other boliao little pieces of work..
oh well.. i'm going to go write it out now..
back maybe in the afternoonOriginally posted by Wanda:Damit! I just got one of those "damn if you don't, and damn if you do " nonsense from boss...and of course, bosses always think they are right. -
for now, i shall rely on viewing online.
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BTW AV, I watched Disc 1 of Blue Submarine No. 6 (Ao no Roku-go) yesterday. For an anime released in 2000 the graphics are amazing
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You tube?Originally posted by stellazio:for now, i shall rely on viewing online.
Or you got lobang
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today we have a new exec in my division... and why am i involve in training an exec???!!!!
and to "distribute" the training load, the other 2 secretaries are pulled in... but one of them have nvr even done wat she's supposed to "train"!!! aaarrrggghhhh...... -
www.animemangafun.comOriginally posted by elindra:You tube?
Or you got lobang
well not up to date, but still not too bad. and its free.
youtube the anime videos removed le i think. -
blind leading the blindOriginally posted by tare:today we have a new exec in my division... and why am i involve in training an exec???!!!!
and to "distribute" the training load, the other 2 secretaries are pulled in... but one of them have nvr even done wat she's supposed to "train"!!! aaarrrggghhhh...... -
av, is your d200 available????
i hope the missed call my colleague left me isn't to tell me i have to shoot his pre-wedding soon -
i can't believe that some bus nut actually believe that the purpose of lta setting up the ERP was to ease road congestion.