Personal Responsibility vs Legal Liability
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i read an article in USAToday and was aghast...
schools in the US are going to ban playing during recess... SERIOUS!
check it out => Schools bans recess games
so dodgeball was banned, and maybe rightly so.. but tag and football?
their excuse was "children are running into each other" and "broken arms and dislocated fingers"
which set me thinking... was it really that, or were the schools afraid of litigation-happy parents? then also, where does it end?
already, we have people winning lawsuits where they themselves got hurt because of their own stupidity... blaming others seem to be profitable...
soon, we will all have to follow a set of rules... personal judgement, subjectivity, common sense will all take a backseat and we become automatrons... unable or unwilling to take the personal responsibility to make a decision without someone hounding you about it, laying down a set of stupid rules.. and then browbeating you into submission no matter how stupid the rules are...
i feel, somewhere along the way, we have lost our common sense...
either that, or we have lost our moral courage to tell those idiots who insist on insane rules to bugger off..
what do you think? -
so cheem... now so late at night how
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It's common to see injuries in sports. Besides, it's healthy. Now that they can't play, they will be in front of computer playing games. If their children become overweight, parents complain again. The process repeats.
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Its America, a land where people win crazy lawsuits.
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then next we may get a law on obesity. Kids need to do more exercises. Or they probably ban all foods in schools except salads.
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some schools in us got their own lawyer, to keep a lookout of all things praying, reading bible in school cos of separation of the church and the state
but ironically, every morning they sing anthem they are flouting the law. -
You guys heard the one about the burglar who broke into a shop and got beaten up and chased away by its employees instead?
The burglar's suing the shop for 'emotional distress'.
Source: http://www.startribune.com/484/story/485319.html
I know that the US is a highly litigious society, but having burglars suing shopkeepers and banning recess time play is really scratching the bottom of the barrel.
And I thought the one where the woman who won a lawsuit against McDonalds' for scalding herself with McDonalds' coffee was bad enough (which is why McDonalds' coffee cups now have the label 'WARNING:HOT!' on them.
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Oh, wait - to say that it's scratching the bottom of the barrel is an insult to barrels. They have truly smashed through the bottom of the barrel.
Please don't sue me, Mr Barrel.
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I think the poison dwarf of F1 (Bernie Ecclestone) put it in a rather witty manner, "Over there if it's five past noon and you say, 'Good morning' you get sued!"
Do we blame the lawyers who take up these cases as well, setting precedents? Why did they make such cases legitimate? -
The prevailing mindset in the US with regard to litigation appears to be, "Sue first, ask questions later."
I'd personally like to see all lawyers in this country airlifted to a remote Pacific atoll, and then a small nuclear device detonated therein. -
blame the legal system there cos lawyers only get paid when they win so any case also must takeOriginally posted by Kuali Baba:I think the poison dwarf of F1 (Bernie Ecclestone) put it in a rather witty manner, "Over there if it's five past noon and you say, 'Good morning' you get sued!"
Do we blame the lawyers who take up these cases as well, setting precedents? -
Don't worry, they're going to hell.Originally posted by Meia Gisborn:The prevailing mindset in the US with regard to litigation appears to be, "Sue first, ask questions later."
I'd personally like to see all lawyers in this country airlifted to a remote Pacific atoll, and then a small nuclear device detonated therein.
http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/11741/Rowan_Atkinson_Hell.html -
and so am i
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Its the US. What's Surprising?Originally posted by the Bear:i read an article in USAToday and was aghast...
schools in the US are going to ban playing during recess... SERIOUS!
check it out => Schools bans recess games
so dodgeball was banned, and maybe rightly so.. but tag and football?
their excuse was "children are running into each other" and "broken arms and dislocated fingers"
which set me thinking... was it really that, or were the schools afraid of litigation-happy parents? then also, where does it end?
already, we have people winning lawsuits where they themselves got hurt because of their own stupidity... blaming others seem to be profitable...
soon, we will all have to follow a set of rules... personal judgement, subjectivity, common sense will all take a backseat and we become automatrons... unable or unwilling to take the personal responsibility to make a decision without someone hounding you about it, laying down a set of stupid rules.. and then browbeating you into submission no matter how stupid the rules are...
i feel, somewhere along the way, we have lost our common sense...
either that, or we have lost our moral courage to tell those idiots who insist on insane rules to bugger off..
what do you think?
Please, however, note that this is not the case in many other countries.
I was going to say 'so dun jump on the lawyer-hating bandwagon'. But it appears I am too late. -
and why say you that?
Originally posted by kikq:and so am i -
lack of common sense.
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cos im an atheistOriginally posted by the Bear:and why say you that? -
According to one of my frens who is a lawyer he says US is a "sueing" country becos in their system, most of the time when u lose a court case, u dun have to pay the lawyers. So they have this "why not" mentality.
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No win no fee. But what about the costs of the other party? Somehow, I find that explanation unconvincing. I think the reason is the highly publicised astronomical punitive damages that have sometimes been awarded.Originally posted by gasband:According to one of my frens who is a lawyer he says US is a "sueing" country becos in their system, most of the time when u lose a court case, u dun have to pay the lawyers. So they have this "why not" mentality. -
Originally posted by alexkusu:Its America, a land where people win crazy lawsuits.
the school taking drastic measures to prevent costly lawsuits -
Originally posted by fudgester:You guys heard the one about the burglar who broke into a shop and got beaten up and chased away by its employees instead?
The burglar's suing the shop for 'emotional distress'.
Source: http://www.startribune.com/484/story/485319.html
I know that the US is a highly litigious society, but having burglars suing shopkeepers and banning recess time play is really scratching the bottom of the barrel.
And I thought the one where the woman who won a lawsuit against McDonalds' for scalding herself with McDonalds' coffee was bad enough (which is why McDonalds' coffee cups now have the label 'WARNING:HOT!' on them. ).
Oh, wait - to say that it's scratching the bottom of the barrel is an insult to barrels. They have truly smashed through the bottom of the barrel.
Please don't sue me, Mr Barrel.
I read a case whereby a thief broke into a house n slip on a toy in the living room n broke his leg. he got caught by the owner n managed to sue the owner for leaving dangerous items lying around in the house. the thief won the lawsuit!!! where is justice in that?? I really don't know what is the moral standing of US court??? in the first place what is the thief doing in the owner's house, if he isn't there, he won't break his leg.
tsk tsk tsk!! -
my personal favourite, take note when anyone flies those crappy North American domestic flights next time .....
they'll pass out little packets of peanuts cos that's all you get .....
and the packet has a warning that says: "Warning, contain nuts" ..... -
Personal accountability is totally missing. Passing the blame becomes the weapon of choice.
This is already happening in Singapore wear parents blames everyone else when their children screws up. Or ignoring these kids when they do dangerous things like running along the aisle of MRT trains and using the hand rings on the buses as monkey bars. When these kids get injured, they blame the driver, the system, but never themselves.
When these kids messes up their grades, they blame the teachers for not teaching. Obviously there are some teachers that are not too good, but at the end of the day, the child should take ownership of his own life. -
You know why airline peanuts have the label 'Warning: remove shell before eating nuts'?Originally posted by Fatum:my personal favourite, take note when anyone flies those crappy North American domestic flights next time .....
they'll pass out little packets of peanuts cos that's all you get .....
and the packet has a warning that says: "Warning, contain nuts" .....
Because people can sue the peanut companies if consumers get constipation by eating the peanut shells.
As stupid as this may sound, one consumer nearly pulled that off on a peanut company. The lawsuit was dropped after the company pointed out the warning label:
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_102b.html -
wondering if south park will have something about that...
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Why is this not suprising.
I mean hairdressers in the US are making their customers sign indemnity forms coz they are afraid of getting sued for giving a "bad haircut"