The 4 Most Important Thing You Need To Know.
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1. God LOVES you and offers a wonderful PLAN for your life.
(References contained on this Home Page are from the Bible and should be read in context wherever possible.)
God's Love
"God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life"
(John 3:16 NIV).
God's Plan
[Christ speaking] "I came that they might have life, and might have it abundantly" [that it might be full and meaningful] (John 10:10).
Why is it that most people are not experiencing the abundant life?
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2. Man is SINFUL and SEPARATED from God. Therefore, he cannot know and experience God's love and plan for his life.
Man Is Sinful
"All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). Man was created to have fellowship with God; but, because of his stubborn self-will, he chose to go his own independent way, and fellowship with God was broken. This self-will, characterized by an attitude of active rebellion or passive indifference, is an evidence of what the Bible calls sin.
Man Is Separated
"The wages of sin is death" [spiritual separation from God] (Romans 6:23).
This diagram illustrates that God is holy and man is sinful. A great gulf separates the two. The arrows illustrate that man is continually trying to reach God and the abundant life through his own efforts, such as a good life, philosophy, or religion - but Man inevitably fails.
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3. Jesus Christ is God's ONLY provision for man's sin. Through Him you can know and experience God's love and plan for your life.
He Died in Our Place
"God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us" (Romans 5:
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He Rose From the Dead
"Christ died for our sins...He was buried...He was raised on the third day, according to the Scriptures...He appeared to Peter, then to the twelve. After that He appeared to more than five hundred..."
(1 Corinthians 15:3-6).
He Is the Only Way to God
"Jesus said to him, 'I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me'" (John 14:6).
This diagram illustrates that God has bridged the gulf which separates us from Him by sending His Son, Jesus Christ, to die on the cross in our place to pay the penalty for our sins.
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4. We must individually RECEIVE Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord; then we can know and experience God's love and plan for our lives.
We Must Receive Christ
"As many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name" (John 1:12)
We Receive Christ Through Faith
"By grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, that no one should boast" (Ephesians 2:8,9).
When We Receive Christ, We Experience a New Birth
(Read John 3:1-8.)
We Receive Christ by Personal Invitation
[Christ speaking] "Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if any one hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him"
(Revelation 3:20).
Receiving Christ involves turning to God from self (repentance) and trusting Christ to come into our lives to forgive our sins and to make us what He wants us to be. Just to agree intellectually that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that He died on the cross for our sins is not enough. Nor is it enough to have an emotional experience. We receive Jesus Christ by faith, as an act of the will. -
You can receive Christ right now by faith through prayer
(Prayer is talking to God)
God knows your heart and is not so concerned with your words as He is with the attitude of your heart. The following is a suggested prayer:
"Lord Jesus, I need You. Thank You for dying on the cross for my sins. I open the door of my life and receive You as my Savior and Lord. Thank You for forgiving my sins and giving me eternal life. Take control of the throne of my life. Make me the kind of person You want me to be."
Does this prayer express the desire of your heart?
If it does, pray this prayer right now, and Christ will come into your life, as He promised.
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According to your chart pt no. 2, before jesus christ came about, everybody is sure to go to hell ? They go to hell despite believing in God etc, being pious and followed the laws he demand ? Well, he sure is fair to these people...
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hmm... i guess u misunderstood the picture...Originally posted by stupidissmart:According to your chart pt no. 2, before jesus christ came about, everybody is sure to go to hell ? They go to hell despite believing in God etc, being pious and followed the laws he demand ? Well, he sure is fair to these people...
There isn't any indication of it saying that before Jesus came, all would go to hell.
God is fair and just, those who seek his favour would go to Heaven and naturally those that fell short of his favour would go to Hell.
Things are as simple as that, pls don't make things even more complicated.
Thanks
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This diagram illustrates that God is holy and man is sinful. A great gulf separates the two. The arrows illustrate that man is continually trying to reach God and the abundant life through his own efforts, such as a good life, philosophy, or religion - but he inevitably fails.
Don't blame me man... I just interpreting neontetra's passage.
If wat u say is true, then doesn't tat means jesus is not necessary ? Before him things r already functioning well. After him things still remains very much the same. -
the 'he inevitably fails' .....pls use a pencil to draw an
towards your left and point to the nearest his.....basic grammar.
it refers to human beings.....
eg. Dennis loves to jog. He does it every week. -
the 'he inevitably fails' .....pls use a pencil to draw an towards your left and point to the nearest his.....basic grammar.
it refers to human beings.....
eg. Dennis loves to jog. He does it every week.
Of course I know wat u r trying to say ! But sinned think u r wrong
There isn't any indication of it saying that before Jesus came, all would go to hell.
God is fair and just, those who seek his favour would go to Heaven and naturally those that fell short of his favour would go to Hell.
He say tat men do not inevitably fails. A portion of them will rise to heaven without christ. SO who is right or who is wrong ? U mention tat all men will fail to get to heaven. Tat means everyone before christ go straight to hell direct. Sinned said tat irregardless of christ, people still get salvation. So who is right, who is wrong ? -
The 4 laws are actually simply presented and should have no problem understanding it. but do ask me if u dun understand certain parts.
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According to your chart pt no. 2, before jesus christ came about, everybody is sure to go to hell ? They go to hell despite believing in God etc, being pious and followed the laws he demand in the OT ? Well, he sure is fair to these people... -
Hmm..that is a good question. shows that u r keeping track of the flow of events
From the chart itself, it really does seem that everybody before Christ is doomed. well....if you wanna put it that way. But first understand the nature of God. Like i mentioned in the 'Dead babies go to heaven' thread, we often scrutiny the Bible as if we dun trust who God is and waiting to find some evidence that prove He is bad before we deny His existence and kindness towards us.
Abraham, the famous man of the OT as well as other 'OT Heroes of Faith' as spoken about in NT Hebrews 11 are ppl whom God has highly favoured. Those days there is nothing revealed about Christ, although several prophecies were spoken about Him in the OT. The people in the past (pre-Messianic age) were justified based on their faith in God and for those who do not know God (totally, just like the case of remote villages) they were judged not based on whether they know Christ or not but rather whether or not they follow the conscience God placed in them. That is to say, whether they observe God's laws (like a normal man will know murder is a sin etc). Infact, God talked about crediting to Abraham and those who have faith in Him as being righteous.
But this doesnt fully explain God's criteria for salvation. His ways are always higher than our ways and we know God doesnt anyhow judge a person with with truth and equity He shall judge. Before and after Christ, people are still able to be saved because when Christ died on the cross, He died for the sins of people past, present and future. His one perfect sacrifice has made atonement for the sins of the entire world. It is just a matter of fact do we appreciate and accept this free gift. -
The people in the past (pre-Messianic age) were justified based on their faith in God and for those who do not know God (totally, just like the case of remote villages) they were judged not based on whether they know Christ or not but rather whether or not they follow the conscience God placed in them. That is to say, whether they observe God's laws (like a normal man will know murder is a sin etc).
Frankly, the "judging by consciousness" idea is not supported by the bible. It explicitly mentioned tat the only way to salavtion is through god or something.
Judging using conscious is probably derived from wat taoist, buddhist or hindis have been doing all along. And it probably came out by "scholars" or possibly, some priest instead of wat the bible stated.Before and after Christ, people are still able to be saved because when Christ died on the cross, He died for the sins of people past, present and future.
Then tat is a funny thing... It is not a gift. U need to be christ's slave and reject all the other religion in order to get his salvation. If u don't know him, u can't accept him. If u don't know him, possibly u will stick with another religion yourself. So the past people still won't be saved as well. -
God's salvation thru Christ Jesus is an act of grace, not something we should demand Him to give us...for we are all sinners, unworthy of any form of pardon.Originally posted by stupidissmart:Then tat is a funny thing... It is not a gift. U need to be christ's slave and reject all the other religion in order to get his salvation. If u don't know him, u can't accept him. If u don't know him, possibly u will stick with another religion yourself. So the past people still won't be saved as well. -
For God does not show favoritism.
All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.) This will take place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.
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Then tat is a funny thing... It is not a gift. U need to be christ's slave and reject all the other religion in order to get his salvation. If u don't know him, u can't accept him. If u don't know him, possibly u will stick with another religion yourself. So the past people still won't be saved as well.
God's salvation thru Christ Jesus is an act of grace, not something we should demand Him to give us...for we are all sinners, unworthy of any form of pardon.
SO u r trying to tell me, the people in the past do not get salvation because Jesus is not born then so they deserved it ? So I am right in the above paragraph ?For God does not show favoritism.
Your god show the most favourtism. It is naive not to accept it. He only accept christians to be in heaven according to the bible.
All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God's sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous. (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.) This will take place on the day when God will judge men's secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.
About the gentiles thingy, then doesn't tat prove christianity and bible is totally redundant ? Since all civilisation come out with their own laws naturally, why need the bible ? They can still go to heaven as well. Why need the bible ? The laws r formed not because of any supernature intervention or godly acts, it is just a way society works. -
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Whether your name is included in the book of LIFE, it will be revealed eventually. So there is no need to argue.Originally posted by stupidissmart:Then tat is a funny thing... It is not a gift. U need to be christ's slave and reject all the other religion in order to get his salvation. If u don't know him, u can't accept him. If u don't know him, possibly u will stick with another religion yourself. So the past people still won't be saved as well.
Your god show the most favourtism. It is naive not to accept it. He only accept christians to be in heaven according to the bible.
About the gentiles thingy, then doesn't tat prove christianity and bible is totally redundant ? Since all civilisation come out with their own laws naturally, why need the bible ? They can still go to heaven as well. Why need the bible ? The laws r formed not because of any supernature intervention or godly acts, it is just a way society works.
GOD has gave men signs and yet more signs, and man still rejected HIM because of their conceited nature.
GOD gave men the waters of life, and yet men rejected, scorned, ridiculed and chose death over life.
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According to the diagram , apparently the bridge from man to god is a three way route ... haha , so there is 2/3 chances of man accidentally dropping into the gulf , haha ... Disturbingly funny ... i think i foudn someone who thinks like me , SiS .. haha ... by the way your diagrams , i was comparing the part of god and man , are they supposed to be the same? eh? and jesus is a cross? and he's the bridge? If he's in Ns , he would be a combat engineer ..
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haha. this is funny.Originally posted by SilverRevo:If he's in Ns , he would be a combat engineer ..