RE: Secrets of Roman Catholic revealed !!
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To Sir Horny
Alberto Riveira is another famous anti-Catholic just like Jack Chick. Someone once posted material from this misinformed fellowÂ’s site and unfortunately continued to believe it as truth. Here, you need to read this
http://www.catholic.com/library/sr_chick_tracts_p3.asp
Islam founded by the Vatican? If your Muslim friends heard of this, theyÂ’ll probably slay you. No offence.
You say Hitler is Catholic? Though Adolf Hitler was baptized Catholic as an infant, he did not practice the Faith later in life. In fact, he completely rejected Christianity as an adult, since he thought it was a "weak" religion because of its emphasis on peace and forgiveness. Instead, Hitler favored a militaristic and racist mishmash of neo-paganism and occultism, which he considered more suitable for the so-called "Aryan supermen" whom he thought would take over the world. Here are some quotes which show what Hitler thought of Christianity:
"Christianity is an invention of sick brains," -- Adolf Hitler, 13 December 1941.
"So it's not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death," -- Adolf Hitler, 14 October 1941.
Go figure. -
No point bashing RC based on one article or some tracts...
but one point to note that in the Islamic holy book, Quran..there is one whole chapter devoted to the virgin Mary known as Maryam (Chapter 19)
http://web.umr.edu/~msaumr/Quran/19.html
this is something extraordinary that protestant bible and other canonical books of the bible do not devote to. Muslim actually hold Mary in high position, which is somewhat similar to the RC. -
ya..also the Pope kissed the Quran. -
hahahOriginally posted by SingaporeMacross:Islam founded by the Vatican? If your Muslim friends heard of this, theyÂ’ll probably slay you. No offence.
The person who created this lie had no idea that Islam has a longer history than the church. And also Islam is NOT founded by Prophet Mohammad. -
the father of all arabic nations are Ishmael, the son of Abraham and Hagar. Check what God said to Ishmael.
Also, why did Islam use the Cresent and the lone Star as their symbol since there is no mentioned of it at all in the Quran? This can be traced back to the ancient Egyptian religion where there was 2 gods that was potrayed as the Moon as a mother and the Star as a baby.
Huh, doesn;t that sounds like the symbol of another religion.........
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God must have said different things to Ishmael in the Hebrew Bible and Qu'ran. In the latter, God gave Ishmael the blessing instead of Isaac?
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He said it many times RC have been trying to discredit his claims...I dun anyhow believe what he said without checking out his claims. The problem is we always thought that our world is so straight forward that there is no organization/people planning something behind our back.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:To Sir Horny
Alberto Riveira is another famous anti-Catholic just like Jack Chick. Someone once posted material from this misinformed fellowÂ’s site and unfortunately continued to believe it as truth. Here, you need to read this
http://www.catholic.com/library/sr_chick_tracts_p3.asp
Islam founded by the Vatican? If your Muslim friends heard of this, theyÂ’ll probably slay you. No offence.
You say Hitler is Catholic? Though Adolf Hitler was baptized Catholic as an infant, he did not practice the Faith later in life. In fact, he completely rejected Christianity as an adult, since he thought it was a "weak" religion because of its emphasis on peace and forgiveness. Instead, Hitler favored a militaristic and racist mishmash of neo-paganism and occultism, which he considered more suitable for the so-called "Aryan supermen" whom he thought would take over the world. Here are some quotes which show what Hitler thought of Christianity:
"Christianity is an invention of sick brains," -- Adolf Hitler, 13 December 1941.
"So it's not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death," -- Adolf Hitler, 14 October 1941.
Go figure.
Did u know why the crescent moon is the symbol of Islam? Every time you see the Muslim symbol of a crescent moon, you are seeing the ancient symbol of the moon god. Allah is the pagan moon god. Before Muhammad came into the picture they were all along praying to the moon god. Where did muhammd get this idea of the unseen Allah, it was from the influence of the vatican.
You quote:
"Christianity is an invention of sick brains," -- Adolf Hitler, 13 December 1941.
So it's not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death," -- Adolf Hitler, 14 October 1941.
Note the word "Christianity"...is RC included as Christianity? Like I wrote, RC is a counterfeit religion. No offence
Read this:
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0071/0071_01.asp
I'm deeply sorry if what I wrote sound harsh. Just read it to understand that's all I'm asking -
chick tracts have been derided by most if not all...
if you wanna have something to base your arguments on, it better not be chick tracts
coz i read one of them years ago.. they were convinced that the AntiChrist would destroy Planet Earth in 1997Originally posted by Sir_Horny:
He said it many times RC have been trying to discredit his claims...I dun anyhow believe what he said without checking out his claims. The problem is we always thought that our world is so straight forward that there is no organization/people planning something behind our back.
Did u know why the crescent moon is the symbol of Islam? Every time you see the Muslim symbol of a crescent moon, you are seeing the ancient symbol of the moon god. Allah is the pagan moon god. Before Muhammad came into the picture they were all along praying to the moon god. Where did muhammd get this idea of the unseen Allah, it was from the influence of the vatican.
You quote:[b]
"Christianity is an invention of sick brains," -- Adolf Hitler, 13 December 1941.
So it's not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death," -- Adolf Hitler, 14 October 1941.
Note the word "Christianity"...is RC included as Christianity? Like I wrote, RC is a counterfeit religion. No offence
Read this:
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0071/0071_01.asp
I'm deeply sorry if what I wrote sound harsh. Just read it to understand that's all I'm asking[/b] -
Originally posted by the Bear:chick tracts have been derided by most if not all...
if you wanna have something to base your arguments on, it better not be chick tracts
coz i read one of them years ago.. they were convinced that the AntiChrist would destroy Planet Earth in 1997
http://www.cephasministry.com/index_catholic_files.html
http://www.carm.org/catholic/saved.htm
http://www.contenderministries.org/catholicism.php
http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/Catholicism/isitcult.htm
http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/cath.htm
Now show me the chick tract about u read?? u can find the whole chick tract in their website....go ahead -
Bishop Fulton Sheen once wrote that few Americans hate the Catholic Church, but millions hate what they mistakenly think is the Catholic Church. The accusations found in these sites have been answered hundreds and hundreds of times already. If only you were willing to listen.
And, if you actually bothered to read the link I've posted, it will tell you that even Protestants diss this Chick nonsense. Decide for yourself. -
yup personally i feel tt chick tracts made some assumptions tt r not correct. but some of the things the tracts point out do makes us ponder.
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I finally spend time reading the catholic website & found that their article on "Gay Marriage" hillarious...the article is nothing but beating around the bush on the subject itself.Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:Bishop Fulton Sheen once wrote that few Americans hate the Catholic Church, but millions hate what they mistakenly think is the Catholic Church. The accusations found in these sites have been answered hundreds and hundreds of times already. If only you were willing to listen.
And, if you actually bothered to read the link I've posted, it will tell you that even Protestants diss this Chick nonsense. Decide for yourself.
In library about "Anti-Catholicism" the RC quote
The problem is that, regardless of what it had in the past, the modern Vatican is not fantastically wealthy. In fact, it has run a budget deficit in most recent years and has an annual budget only around the size of that of the Archdiocese of Chicago.
.....anyone falling for this??
U have ears, eyes & brain to discern the truth & lies...use it wisely that's all I have to say. If RC can attract so much controversy, something must be wrong with the "church." Btw, u can stop saying about me quoting from chick.....I've given u url that has nothing to do with chick in my last reply...& I have also read the article from the link u provided.
Quote from http://www.remnantofgod.org/nl031031.htm:
This also became more plausible in my mind after researching how the Islamic faith came to be, and RomeÂ’s obvious involvement in it. History show that the Vatican arranged the marriage of Mohammed and his wife who was a catholic, and the Catholic bishops help Mohammed write the Koran and gain his power. This was done by Papal Rome all in an effort to cause the Muslims to hate the Jews, as well as all Christians who were not catholic. Two birds with one stone if you will. Get rid of the Christians so that Rome could stand as the supreme moral authority, and rid the Jews of their land so that Rome can set her temples upon the holy land in triumph. Of course history proves it backfired for the Pope, which in turn caused him to growl across Europe in the crusades that saw countless deaths for centuries. However lately, it seems Jerusalem is finally within the grasp of Rome once again!
http://www.reformation.org/vatican-and-islam.html -
Originally posted by Sir_Horny:
Thank you for your quotes. I have gone through the article on the first weblink you provided and I don't find any references to the source of the author's finding.
I finally spend time reading the catholic website & found that their article on "Gay Marriage" hillarious...the article is nothing but beating around the bush on the subject itself.
In library about "Anti-Catholicism" the RC quote
[b]The problem is that, regardless of what it had in the past, the modern Vatican is not fantastically wealthy. In fact, it has run a budget deficit in most recent years and has an annual budget only around the size of that of the Archdiocese of Chicago.
.....anyone falling for this??
U have ears, eyes & brain to discern the truth & lies...use it wisely that's all I have to say. If RC can attract so much controversy, something must be wrong with the "church." Btw, u can stop saying about me quoting from chick.....I've given u url that has nothing to do with chick in my last reply...& I have also read the article from the link u provided.
Quote from http://www.remnantofgod.org/nl031031.htm:
This also became more plausible in my mind after researching how the Islamic faith came to be, and RomeÂ’s obvious involvement in it. History show that the Vatican arranged the marriage of Mohammed and his wife who was a catholic, and the Catholic bishops help Mohammed write the Koran and gain his power. This was done by Papal Rome all in an effort to cause the Muslims to hate the Jews, as well as all Christians who were not catholic. Two birds with one stone if you will. Get rid of the Christians so that Rome could stand as the supreme moral authority, and rid the Jews of their land so that Rome can set her temples upon the holy land in triumph. Of course history proves it backfired for the Pope, which in turn caused him to growl across Europe in the crusades that saw countless deaths for centuries. However lately, it seems Jerusalem is finally within the grasp of Rome once again!
http://www.reformation.org/vatican-and-islam.html[/b]If RC can attract so much controversy, something must be wrong with the "church."
Who in first place created so much controversy to make life so challenging for the Catholics? Who's the one who said that the Catholic church has the names of all Protestants in the world? Who came out with the idea that the Pope wrote the Koran?
The second link that you provided, I went through that too. It was pretty interesting as I am very into archaeologist findings from time to time. But what doesn't impress me is how the author derive his/her own assumptions in his/her own words. Things like "Bull fights, Rosaries and Assassinations are from Islam". Buddhists use rosaries too. Did they get it from the Moslems as well? The creditability of the two authors' writings is a big question mark. Like what you said earlier, I am going to say the same thing to you :U have ears, eyes & brain to discern the truth & lies...use it wisely that's all I have to say.
When I put two articles together, one said that Catholics wrote the Koran and the second said that the Catholics came from Islam. So which is which?
It will be good if you could quote texts from history books or ecyclopedia which give factual accounts on the history, rather than articles written by the fundamentalists whose name and background most of us never even heard of.
I have been busy these days and will not be taking part in so much discussion. But I promise once I'm off my workload, I will update the Catholic forum with topics on the fallacy of Chicks tracts and some other erroneous writings on the Catholic Church.
SingaporeMacros, you're doing great.