Creationist vs Evolutionist
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I can plant a durian tree in seconds. Doesn't mean that I have durian to eat in seconds. However after 10 years later while I am eating the durian, I know that it is created by me.
Wrong. It said tat on the third day, vegetation is around in abundant. It is not planning a seed, it popped out suddenly.
If evolution is the way that God choose to create human, then all he need to start is to plant that particular gen and causes, it will automatically evolve to human then. So, 6 days is enough.
Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13
In fact on the first 2 days, he create the galaxy and world. In the passage it is also stated tat the land and sea have popped out suddenly, not planning a "seed" hoping it will grow in billions of years. God had already see his work physically on the same day.Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, [2] and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
He is already blessing and talking to the people on tat day. Surely he can't talk to something which doesn't appear untill a few hundred more billions of years ?
27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.
28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."
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don't judge others as you think you are being judged.
Chin eng... tat is wat u always like to do huh.. just resorting to personal attack
What makes you think I haven't read them.... or at least some of them.
I read all kinds of books. Just because I do not comment on them does not mean that I am ignorant of such writings.
In fact I read more non-Christian books that I do the Christian stuffs.....
I think I am wasting my time talking with u...
I thought teachers r supposed to spend time summarising the book content to the students ? Look like u r probably more scared of it being torn to pieces because of the book's weak arguments, or u r incapable of summarising. Never mind, u don't post I don't read. U appears to have recommended more than 10 books for people to read all tis while. Only the really dumb will take your taunt. U want to come out with watever nonsensical conclusions, fine... it is your own business.
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I don't think there was any personal attack at this point. You are right.... you APPEARED to have read Christian stuff more.... the crux of that statement is APPEARED! Which is really strange, what is appear to read more?? So did you or did you not read those books. You either read more or you didn't.... Please write carefully. No this is not a personal attack, just an advice for you to please be coherent.Originally posted by stupidissmart:Chin eng... tat is wat u always like to do huh.. just resorting to personal attack I think I am wasting my time talking with u...
I thought teachers r supposed to spend time summarising the book content to the students ? Look like u r probably more scared of it being torn to pieces because of the book's weak arguments, or u r incapable of summarising. Never mind, u don't post I don't read. U appears to have recommended more than 10 books for people to read all tis while. Only the really dumb will take your taunt. U want to come out with watever nonsensical conclusions, fine... it is your own business.
BTW I appeared to have read christian stuff more than non christian stuff too.
I would explain to a student anything they might wish to know, providing I am capable of doing it. YOU, on the other hand, are NOT a student, you are an antagonist in this forum. So come off the high horse, stop making this dubious claim of WANTING TO LEARN. You don't want to learn, you WANT TO ATTACK.
It is strange, you might have to recheck all the threads, I don't think I'd recommended 10 books for people to read, considering that I'd only read not more than 3 Christan books over the last 2 years.
I might have recommended others to read Dan Brown's agnostic-laden books, or Louis Chai's Yee Tian Tu Long Ji or Sheng Diao Xia Lu, but I don't think these count.
So the question still begs an answer: why are you still here???
You already have your conclusions, which in your own mind are:
1. God does not exist
2. The Bible is a work of fiction
3. Christians are idiots
4. Science is the ultimate answer
So why are you still here?
Because your hatred for Christians and what we represents, it has caused an emotional bond to you for you inspite of the fact that you might be sleeping now, you still would come in to expound your condemnation.
You know what, without us, your life would be a bore... wouldn't it???
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Never mind.. u carry on your attacks lor... U never attack on the points I had raise an only on me myself. Tat is all u can do now
Keep on with your attacks lor. I don't really give a damn on your personal conclusion on wat I am
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sometimes i really admire u. ur ego. When u r proven wrong..u still..Still got things to say. That is what really amazed me.
my conclusion is not dumb. I just say it is by probability. U think i can believe that u r a nobel winner?? no way. I BELIEVE.
Until u prove me wrong by telling me that ur name is upthere in the nobel web.
So..if no evidence..i still believe in my conscious mind and trust my probability.
If those things that Chin Eng had mentioned to u is called personal attack...hmm...then what sort of "attack" would u clasify urself to be towards christianity??Christianity harrasment?? yup...u r not giving personal attack here...but is something much worse than that.
Even in law...public law is placed in the higher importance than individual rights. If u wan to talk about whose at fault ( with Chin Eng)...i guess that u r.
Not being personal here...but i really think u r.
Y i believe u have personal grudge against christianity.....err hmm...anyone here doesnt agree?? it is just me alone??
U had not mentioned any single word about muslims, taoism, hinduism..but all on christianity. All of these religion also believe in god/ creator.
Y chrisitians alone? isnt this strong enough to justify ur act? U wan more evidence? go read back ur own thread...u could find ample of it.
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Hi TP....
relak, brother....
without us, he's got nothing to do.... in a way, we gave him the purpose for his life. So really, not too bad afterall... otherwise, each afternoon sleep, work only at night on his next scientific Nobel-prize-worthy invention or thesis.
he won't give you his name lah... working on some super secret weapon with the US garmen.
Someone once taught me: don't argue with an 1d10T, you go down to his level and he will beat you with experience. -
because in the court of law, MOTIVE is what separates man-slaughter and murder......
Motives ? I thought I have stated my motives many times before ? I said tat I want to tell people the truth, so tat they will really be free. SOmething which is similar to evangelising, which I thought is a conclusion u have reached the previous attempt ? In the end u will still accuse me tat my motives is just because I hate christians.
Wat is your motive for your personal attack against me then ? Is it because u have a personal grudge against me ?sometimes i really admire u. ur ego. When u r proven wrong..u still..Still got things to say. That is what really amazed me
Wat have I been proven wrong ??!?! I am pretty sure u have misread my earlier post
Strange... do u know me ? Maybe I am doing research in the US now too isn't it ? American cannot access to tis website meh ? Maybe I had won a nobel price before ? How do u know I am not ? U don't even know me ! Why do u have the qualification to tell me not to act as someone or something ?
The above para said tat u do not know me, thus don't give any guess on who am I nor wat my qualifications r. And here u r saying tat I am not a nobel proce winner when I never meant I am one U better brush up on your reading to know its meanings... but of course since all your points about not presenting cold hard facts r already dead, u have nothing to write about anymore other than exaggerrating wat I am writing... The more u write about it, the more u show how bad your reading skill is.If those things that Chin Eng had mentioned to u is called personal attack...hmm...then what sort of "attack" would u clasify urself to be towards christianity??Christianity harrasment?? yup...u r not giving personal attack here...but is something much worse than that.
I have backed my words with facts and logics. The problem is u can't face nor reverse them. Therefore u can only resort to tis kind of arguments against me. Tis is a forum, and I have substantiate my stand. U ? U just resort of attack on me personally. U r not going on the points I have raised but instead dwell on who I am ! Doesn't tat show u have no other stand or better arguments tat I have raised ? Hmm...
Even in law...public law is placed in the higher importance than individual rights. If u wan to talk about whose at fault ( with Chin Eng)...i guess that u r.U had not mentioned any single word about muslims, taoism, hinduism..but all on christianity. All of these religion also believe in god/ creator.
Why should I have to mention about other religion ? I want to mention tis religion now, and tat is it. Does me not talking about other religion meant tat I am not against christianity ? One of the reason is simple, there r people tat go around asking people to be open minded and want people to discuss such issues (christianity) with them. When I take up the challenge now, u guys in the end resort to personal attacks... Shows how fair and confident u have in your religion...Hi TP....
Carry on carry on
relak, brother....
without us, he's got nothing to do.... in a way, we gave him the purpose for his life. So really, not too bad afterall... otherwise, each afternoon sleep, work only at night on his next scientific Nobel-prize-worthy invention or thesis.
he won't give you his name lah... working on some super secret weapon with the US garmen.
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Fact, SIS:
1. You write like crap.... not too bad if everything is contained in one short paragraph, but to get your message across in lengthy discussions, you got to do better than that. Not a personal attack 'cos many forumites had conclude this.
2. No matter what answers we come up with you are NEVER satisfied, not even when non-Christian sources were given. So don't talk about arguing facts.
3. As far as you are concern, only ONE unexplained anomaly in the Bible invalidates the whole Bible. May I ask what qualification do you have to make such a conclusion? When scholars immensely more intelligent and qualified than you are still arguing both ways.
4. You have NOT pointed out any truth, the only "truth" that exist is one that is in your own mind.
5. You are NOT aloka. Even with his multi-postings on Buddhism, he does not confront. He is also presenting his truth, but he does not challenge. YOU START AND END ANTAGONISTIC. Do you expect less from the replies to your remarks?
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Fact, SIS:
1. You write like crap.... not too bad if everything is contained in one short paragraph, but to get your message across in lengthy discussions, you got to do better than that. Not a personal attack 'cos many forumites had conclude this.
I never claim I can write queen's english. I am glad tat u still understand wat I am writing about. Tat is all tat matters.2. No matter what answers we come up with you are NEVER satisfied, not even when non-Christian sources were given. So don't talk about arguing facts.
The problem is, u r rebutting me and u expect me not do rebut back ? Must I accept any cock and bull story u written and I cannot clarify further ? U r not arguing facts. For the mails u have written in your past few weeks, u have only insulted me, and doesn't come out with any new facts or refreshing arguments. U r probably the one tat should talk about arguing facts3. As far as you are concern, only ONE unexplained anomaly in the Bible invalidates the whole Bible. May I ask what qualification do you have to make such a conclusion? When scholars immensely more intelligent and qualified than you are still arguing both ways.
One ? I trhought I have come out with tonnes of errors and contradictions. (earth revolving around sun, bats r birds, earth is flat) Wat qualification do I have ? I thought the bible claims itself to be error free and ageless ! Surely if a part of it is wrong, we can come to the conclusion tat the bible is wrong ! It has failed to support its claims !4. You have NOT pointed out any truth, the only "truth" that exist is one that is in your own mind.
Really ? May I ask wat qualifications do u have to make such a conclusion ? If it aren't true, a person such as u will surely had raised it out and openly mocked me. It is precisely u can't find such cases tat is why u had to resort personal attacks5. You are NOT aloka. Even with his multi-postings on Buddhism, he does not confront. He is also presenting his truth, but he does not challenge. YOU START AND END ANTAGONISTIC. Do you expect less from the replies to your remarks?
U had just said it yourself, I am not aloka. Why should I follow him ? If u want, u can start and end antagonistic onthe points I had raise, not on me personally isn't it ?
Tis seemed to be the upteen times u had posted something similar to tis here. If I am not wrong, u will give another rebuttal first
1. claiming tat u cannot understand the things I have written, when clearly u do
2. saying tat u do not want me to agree, but accept all your answer even if they were wrong
3. saying I hate christians, which is a stupid conclusion just because I say some christians knock on my door before
4. telling me not to antagonise christainity.
5. saying tat eternal hope is for christainity and they do not want to hear any opposing views
6. telling people to ignore me since I am not here to learn. However saying tis has already meant u r here to teach and not learning yourself.
7. none of your content is going to be related to the topic at all. It will totally be about me, SIS. In a way, u have deviate from the main topic in tis thread
8. If all else fails, u just become sarcastic and resort to insults on me
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Tis seemed to be the upteen times u had posted something similar to tis here. If I am not wrong, u will give another rebuttal first
So you continue to bad mouth Christianity for the umpteen (please learn the correct spelling, SHEESH!) times can?
1. claiming tat u cannot understand the things I have written, when clearly u do
Sorry you are unclear again....??? The first part of the sentence contradicts with the second part.
2. saying tat u do not want me to agree, but accept all your answer even if they were wrong
when did I say you must accept all my answers, I only ask you to agree to disagree and move on. I am sure you have better things to do than to day in day out, night in night out, sitting in front of the screen, surfing atheist website to support your views
3. saying I hate christians, which is a stupid conclusion just because I say some christians knock on my door before
actually I think you said it yourself, many many moons ago. Of course it is entirely possible that again with your poor grammar you failed to communicate a salient point of your rebuttals.
4. telling me not to antagonise christainity.
and this is wrong? I even tell Christians NOT to antagonise other religions.
5. saying tat eternal hope is for christainity and they do not want to hear any opposing views
errr. I never said this, I said Eternal Hope is for Christians. I did not say that they do not want to hear any opposing view, only that such opposing views should be politely made and if anyone disagrees, it's ok, let's move on.
6. telling people to ignore me since I am not here to learn. However saying tis has already meant u r here to teach and not learning yourself.
I expressed my opinion with the same freedom that you claim you have. I did not teach, you are extremely confused on the concept of what teaching is.
7. none of your content is going to be related to the topic at all. It will totally be about me, SIS. In a way, u have deviate from the main topic in tis thread
factually incorrect, it is really: none of my content addressed to YOU is not related to the topic purely because it is senseless to engage you as you have the tendency to throw it back at our faces. This is NOT just my opinion but the opinion of others too
8. If all else fails, u just become sarcastic and resort to insults on me
well, which part did you feel insulted, the point about my comment on you bad grammar (which is a fact, since you like facts so much) or was it something else?
Is there anything new u wanna add ? Maybe I should compile the answer and return them to u whenever u raised these points again. If u have nothing new to add, then don't waste my time.
No one's wasting your time, your time is for you to do what you think is useful to yourself. Don't reply. You had stated a couple of notes back exactly that.
If you truly think your time is being wasted here, stop coming in. No one here is putting a gun at your head and force you to log into Eternal Hope. You see, your problem is you CANNOT STAY AWAY! This has become your addiction. You need, you crave, you desire this encounter with a group of people that disagrees with your universe.
You reply will be: why, you say stay away, I stay away. I got no face. So with that excuse you will continue to come in again and again. There is a medical term for this, it's called COMPULSIVE OBSESSIVE BEHAVIOUR. -
Originally posted by Icemoon:
RESPECT... Is such a BIG JOKE...?
How do [b]you define bashing then?
I suppose bashing applies more to more subjective topics .. ya know, religious, racial issues where there is no clear cut answer and we should sometimes respect other people's belief (agree to disagree).
But hey, when we talk about science, especially using the rock to date the fossil and vice versa, that's really a big joke.[/b]
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How come Chin Eng so free do verbal sparring with SIS?
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Well answered Chin Eng. But as far as this nick "Stupid is Smart" still emblazon in this thread, torrential egoistic posts are imminent.
He does not and will not admit that he had contradictions. This is one of the worst attitude that i had ever encounter. And hence in order to cover up his mistakes/ contradiction, a silly/ out of point/illogical rebuttal parenthesis was made.
SIS, u really display a precocious talent for anti-christianity. I could say ur presence had really cause Eternal Hope's aim travail. E.H had been trying to unravel christianity to u. If u find difficulty to comprehend or to accept christianity, u could agree to disagree. However, i am extremely dissapointed over your replies for each had a compulsion to disrespect christianity as a religion.
None of us here can have a irrevocable points/facts. If you cant accept the fact and believe that you are always correct, might as well leave. You are just too brilliant for us. -
well answered AMD, your grandios usage of vocabulary had really caused a torrential of emblazonment of precocious aim travail on this thread and in which there is a compulsion of the irrevocable fact that there is an imminent inadequacy with the egoistic nether regions of your anatomy.
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Originally posted by Icemoon:How come Chin Eng so free do verbal sparring with SIS?
No need to spend time with the kids meh?
I have my windows of opportunites..... and two computers at home.... even if older son is beating the crap out of other kids at Gunbound, I can still bang the other one.
+ Monday nights a kinda free for me.... other nights you'd see me less. Weekends is almost definitely for family. Mornings are fine, some folks still sleeping some gone to school. I have another half and hour more.....
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According to your deduction, I also conclude that since no one has concrete evidence that God does not exist, therefore God must existOriginally posted by stupidissmart:Tat is right. If u manage to come out with evidence tat evolution is wrong, then u have proven it to be wrong and can be hailed as a hero. But can u do tat ? Can anyone do tat ? There is no one concrete evidence tat show evolution to be wrong ! Isn't tat showing evolution is right ?
Thank you! I rest my case.
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if thou can emblazon thy post with a torrential of flowery language like AMD did, then irrevocably I would feel an imminent compulsion to applause for thy wit and skill.Originally posted by sillyme:According to your deduction, I also conclude that since no one has concrete evidence that God does not exist, therefore God must exist
Thank you! I rest my case.
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Me cannots spoke like him. It is meaning as a jokes lah. hehehe. *gua gua gua*Originally posted by the.raven:if thou can emblazon thy post with a torrential of flowery language like AMD did, then irrevocably I would feel an imminent compulsion to applause for thy wit and skill. -
Originally posted by sillyme:According to your deduction, I also conclude that since no one has concrete evidence that God does not exist, therefore God must exist
Thank you! I rest my case.
/me bows
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Again Eng Chin have stated nothing relevant to the thread again
So you continue to bad mouth Christianity for the umpteen (please learn the correct spelling, SHEESH!) times can?
U never make any spelling errors before ? Obviously u have understood wat I had written. But since u have nothing better to talk about, I guess u can only attack on my carelessness in spelling.Sorry you are unclear again....??? The first part of the sentence contradicts with the second part.
claiming tat u cannot understand the things I have written, when clearly u do
Wat is contradictory ? u can interprete tis sentence as u r making a flase claim when u say u cannot understand wat I had written because from the way u respond to it, u do understand its meanings.when did I say you must accept all my answers, I only ask you to agree to disagree and move on. I am sure you have better things to do than to day in day out, night in night out, sitting in front of the screen, surfing atheist website to support your views
And in wat situation u had perform tis ? I ask u another question on your reply, and u not only refuse to answer them, u ask me not to ask it in the first place. U ask me to accept your answer when I am not even satisfied with it. Is tat making any improvement ?actually I think you said it yourself, many many moons ago. Of course it is entirely possible that again with your poor grammar you failed to communicate a salient point of your rebuttals.
Ahh... but many many moon before, I had already corrected u on tis aspect and u accepted it. However u appeared to have conveniently forget about it and bring it up again recently. Show tat u have nothing better to attack but bring up an old point which has already been settled.and this is wrong? I even tell Christians NOT to antagonise other religions.
Nothing wrong with tis. But do u stop them when they start to antagonise other religion ? I have clearly see neontetra antagonise other religion too. DO u go around writing a reply totally attacking on his character ? How fair have u portray yourself in tis matter ?errr. I never said this, I said Eternal Hope is for Christians. I did not say that they do not want to hear any opposing view, only that such opposing views should be politely made and if anyone disagrees, it's ok, let's move on.
R u sure ? U appeared to have written a another strongly worded message telling me tat eternal hope is for christians to "learn" and bla bla bla. U say tat if I want to talk about such religion topics, I go to some other forums to write about it. Isn't tat a sign tat u do not want to hear any opposing view, similar to censoring off unwanted comments ?I expressed my opinion with the same freedom that you claim you have. I did not teach, you are extremely confused on the concept of what teaching is.
Really ? Why don't u explain your earlier messages telling people tat I am not here to learn and therefore should ignore me ? Doesn't tat implied tat u r not here to learn but teach instead ?factually incorrect, it is really: none of my content addressed to YOU is not related to the topic purely because it is senseless to engage you as you have the tendency to throw it back at our faces. This is NOT just my opinion but the opinion of others too
Wat do u suggest ? U come out with any cock and bull story and I am forced to accept it isn't it ? I cannot rebut the points u have raised when u r at a liberty to do so ? Obviously if I don't make sense, u can have easily point it out and throw away the whole argument ! But when u can't u just ask them to accept any dumb points u have raised !well, which part did you feel insulted, the point about my comment on you bad grammar (which is a fact, since you like facts so much) or was it something else?
R u gonna claimed tat u had never made any other malicious remark on me before ? Why don't u answer tis question before I quote it out for u ?No one's wasting your time, your time is for you to do what you think is useful to yourself. Don't reply. You had stated a couple of notes back exactly that.
My remark on wasting time, is because u do not argue anything about the subject matter but on me personally. TAT is wasting time. Becoming my addiction ? Sorry man, I just wanna make people realise wat a big lie christainity is and therefore be liberated by it. It is not my "addiction" to "encounter with a group of people that disagrees with your universe", it is my conviction tat I try to make them realise the folly of their ways so they can live life better.
If you truly think your time is being wasted here, stop coming in. No one here is putting a gun at your head and force you to log into Eternal Hope. You see, your problem is you CANNOT STAY AWAY! This has become your addiction. You need, you crave, you desire this encounter with a group of people that disagrees with your universe.According to your deduction, I also conclude that since no one has concrete evidence that God does not exist, therefore God must exist
Sorry man, evolution present evidences tat IT EXISTS in the first place before being accepted. I believe u can see the many different evidences presented about in this thread. If u want to prove evolution wrong, u can just come out with evidences tat proves it otherwise.
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U never make any spelling errors before ? Obviously u have understood wat I had written. But since u have nothing better to talk about, I guess u can only attack on my carelessness in spelling.
Got lah. But I try very very had to be careful with my spelling and grammar. And when I do make spelling error, I will correct it. I have a little more pride in what I write.
Any comment on your spelling and grammar has go to with your psychological profile. One of an unstable mind. The science of profiling include the analysis of the writing style of the individual.
claiming tat u cannot understand the things I have written, when clearly u do
Wat is contradictory ? u can interprete tis sentence as u r making a flase claim when u say u cannot understand wat I had written because from the way u respond to it, u do understand its meanings.
WhatÂ’s a flase claim? I cannot respond because I cannot understand.
And in wat situation u had perform tis ? I ask u another question on your reply, and u not only refuse to answer them, u ask me not to ask it in the first place. U ask me to accept your answer when I am not even satisfied with it. Is tat making any improvement ?
Please bear in mind that I had tried very hard in the past to answer your questions, but each time, it still ended with you declaring that you are right. Point is, you are never satisfied even when you are proven wrong. Example? How about the historical context of Biblical text which you categorically deny or how about definition of certain English words used in the past which holds different meaning from now? You have rejected both of these.
Ahh... but many many moon before, I had already corrected u on tis aspect and u accepted it. However u appeared to have conveniently forget about it and bring it up again recently. Show tat u have nothing better to attack but bring up an old point which has already been settled.
I may accepted some of the things youÂ’d said at one point, but your continual pursuance of the cause to discredit Christianity has confirmed my point that you still hate Christians.
Nothing wrong with tis. But do u stop them when they start to antagonise other religion ? I have clearly see neontetra antagonise other religion too. DO u go around writing a reply totally attacking on his character ? How fair have u portray yourself in tis matter ?
And you think that I have left these brothers alone? IÂ’d written to some of them to ask them not to write such notes. I donÂ’t do it for all to see. Anything that had happened before me joining the forum has nothing to do with me, as well as anything I am not aware of. And please, if you see any other Christians going to another forum with negative opinions let me know.
R u sure ? U appeared to have written a another strongly worded message telling me tat eternal hope is for christians to "learn" and bla bla bla. U say tat if I want to talk about such religion topics, I go to some other forums to write about it. Isn't tat a sign tat u do not want to hear any opposing view, similar to censoring off unwanted comments ?
You are the only person in Eternal Hope with so much hatred. I have never told anyone else off for voicing their opinions. Mature people know when to back off. I will not challenge anything you say in Chit Chat. Other non-Christians come into Eternal Hope write a couple of paragraphs and leave. No sweat. Agree to disagree. You? As IÂ’d said, Christianity holds the secret to your purpose of living. We are the drug that allow you to survive each day.
Really ? Why don't u explain your earlier messages telling people tat I am not here to learn and therefore should ignore me ? Doesn't tat implied tat u r not here to learn but teach instead ?
I said you are NOT HERE TO LEARN, I did not say I am here to teach. Learning is not about agreeing, it is about accepting another opinion as much as it disagrees with yours. I learn culture when I travel, even culture that disagrees with me. I learn that in some parts of China, bugs are eaten, I would not agree to eat it, I can only accept that it happens. That is real learning.
Whatever implication that exist is in your own sick mind is entire your own.
Wat do u suggest ? U come out with any cock and bull story and I am forced to accept it isn't it ? I cannot rebut the points u have raised when u r at a liberty to do so ? Obviously if I don't make sense, u can have easily point it out and throw away the whole argument ! But when u can't u just ask them to accept any dumb points u have raised !
So no issue here. You think we have dumb points, but whoÂ’s dumb to come each day to listen to dumb people taking about dumb things. Dumb? You take it to a new low.
R u gonna claimed tat u had never made any other malicious remark on me before ? Why don't u answer tis question before I quote it out for u ?
What is malicious? It is up to you! If you think I have, so be it. So you can come in here and call us dumb or stupid and that's OK? Some other people make remakes on you and you feel insulted????
My remark on wasting time, is because u do not argue anything about the subject matter but on me personally. TAT is wasting time. Becoming my addiction ? Sorry man, I just wanna make people realise wat a big lie christainity is and therefore be liberated by it. It is not my "addiction" to "encounter with a group of people that disagrees with your universe", it is my conviction tat I try to make them realise the folly of their ways so they can live life better.
Why bother? Christians believe that they are living better already. I don’t get it. Your conviction to “make people realize the folly of their ways” is OK? But Christians doing the same thing is NOT OK? Duh!!
Sorry man, evolution present evidences tat IT EXISTS in the first place before being accepted. I believe u can see the many different evidences presented about in this thread. If u want to prove evolution wrong, u can just come out with evidences tat proves it otherwise.
For existence of god, they can't prove it exists in the first place ! Since they can't prove it, tis notion is not even accepted !
You donÂ’t get it. I am one of those who believe that there is such a thing as evolution. I also believe that God started the evolution process. As I'd mentioned somewhere earlier in this thread, it all depends on how one defines evolution. -
When I plant my durian tree, I want it growth into a big tree with many leafs on it and growth plenty of durians, so I make sure I plant it in the right place and ensure that I fence out the area to prevent animals to disturb and many works to ensure it growth healthy. I can foresee that it willl growth according my plan. And I saw that it was good.Originally posted by stupidissmart:Wrong. It said tat on the third day, vegetation is around in abundant. It is not planning a seed, it popped out suddenly.
Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13
In fact on the first 2 days, he create the galaxy and world. In the passage it is also stated tat the land and sea have popped out suddenly, not planning a "seed" hoping it will grow in billions of years. God had already see his work physically on the same day.
I don't need to physically see my work on the same day to said that.
When my wife pregnant for 3 months, I touch her stomach to blessing and talking to my son. The Bible didn't mention that those people answer back and talking to God that day isn't it?Originally posted by stupidissmart:He is already blessing and talking to the people on tat day. Surely he can't talk to something which doesn't appear untill a few hundred more billions of years ?