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Peace to u in the name of Christ. U mentioned that protestants uses bible from the faithful translation from the original scriptures. The original scriptures were not found and can never be found. The first bible is compiled by RC...and it was in greek. so how could protestant compile something from no where? if u say u are the last to have compile from the orignal scriptures......does that mean protestant have the original scriputres in thier hand????? There is the existence of the Dead Sea Scroll too...hav u heard about it from the protestant side. And again...protestant just mean " to protest / go against " catholic. But..dun forget...there are alot alot of cults in the so call protestant itself..and each of the denomination have different teachings.... Unless ur church is the only church on earth that is correct ..then ur church will be flooded by ppl rite. will ur pastor consider in building a new church? if new churches are built....will ur pastor elect someone to be incharge of all the churches in order to syncronize the teachings??? or will he just ignore the new church and let it be watever it will be?? then when it is big enough to go around the world....ppl will start firing back and say..well church do not need a leader...just pray to Jesus.. and stuff...mind u, catholic also pray to Jesus. I do not worship my priest..i only kneel down to God and God alone.Originally posted by fandango:Right, if you were what you said you were - a Methodist, i assume you have a bible that you used when you were a Methodist, and i will further assume that you have a Roman Catholic Bible. If you want to get to the bottom of this issue - that is if you really care, compare both bible. It takes a little bit of time but you will soon realise...wouww......very different.
Why is there such differences? thats the answer to the question where the bible came from. The Roman Catholic bible came from the careful scrutinising and altering by the Pope and the Council in the first 100 years. (You may be right here). But I am sure the Protestants uses the bible from the faihful translation from the original scriptures. (This have also changed because those modern versions NIV,NKJV adopted the transalation of the Roman Catholic text. Bad news. )
Nobody will agree with me? You will be surprised.
George Bush? That may be the last person you want to mention. George W Bush and Bush Snr are life members of a secret society called The Skull and Bones. And.......get ready for this....it is a society that worship.....tada.....Lucifer.
Catholic praying to statue? Jesus christ on the cross...Idol worshiping..? Well...i have a picture of my galfren. I miss her so much..i took out her picture...sometimes i talk to the picture..saying " i love u", i kiss the picture..and i keep it proeperly...so does that mean i am praying / worshiping to the picture..believing her spirit lies within the picture....come on.....i kneel to the cross..just simply i RESPECT and LOVE Jesus...even if i kiss it.
I am just sharring my view....i just pray that we will live in harmony. I had been a catholic for 20 years....from wat i had known...the priest had never once mentioned a word that condemn other christians ( from my own experience ). God bless u all. -
finally got some time to spare to post some difference between Catholic Jesus and Biblical Jesus:
1. Catholic Jesus has been widely potrayed as one with his heart exposed. What normally known as Sacred Heart of Jesus. No where in the Bible did Jesus told ppl to honour his heart. The 12 promises of honoring the heart is not biblical..it keeps on emphasizing exposing the image of the heart to obtain grace and blessings when one honours the picture.
2. Catholic Jesus appear in several occassions revealing images of himself for ppl to venerate. The Divine Mercy image is one of the occassions in which 'Jesus' told ppl to make a painting of him and honour it to obtain grace and mercy. Biblical Jesus before His ascension pray for His followers and gave the command about preaching the good news and wait for the coming of the Holy Spirit, the Helper. He didnt give instructions to make paintings and hang and honour them.
3. Catholic Jesus is believed to reside in the tabernacle. That is why catholics when entering a catholic church will genuflect to show respect to the presence. Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament is when catholics believed that the consecrated host become real flesh and blood, soul and divinity of Christ. When placed in a receptacle known as monstrance, catholics are to kneel before that bread and worship it as if Christ is really there. Biblical Jesus celebrate the Last supper and insititute it as a remembrance for all of us. He never ask ppl to place that bread in a photo frame and worship it. Worship God in spirit and in truth.
Conclusion: Catholic Jesus reveal many things in which is contrary to the teachings of the Bible and in no way is the same Jesus as we read about in the Bible. According to readings, worship of organs such as Heart is a babylonian cult practise.
For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. But I do not think I am in the least inferior to those "super-apostles." I may not be a trained speaker, but I do have knowledge. We have made this perfectly clear to you in every way.
Was it a sin for me to lower myself in order to elevate you by preaching the gospel of God to you free of charge? I robbed other churches by receiving support from them so as to serve you. And when I was with you and needed something, I was not a burden to anyone, for the brothers who came from Macedonia supplied what I needed. I have kept myself from being a burden to you in any way, and will continue to do so. As surely as the truth of Christ is in me, nobody in the regions of Achaia will stop this boasting of mine. Why? Because I do not love you? God knows I do! And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
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Originally posted by NeonTetra:
You see the way you argue is always from the Bible. It is as if modern lawyers quote the law. Since you are so fundamentalist, why don't you read the Bible carefully . Did Jesus ask you to read the 'Bible' or follow his teachigs or his apostles. Is the word bible in the word ?
finally got some time to spare to post some difference between Catholic Jesus and Biblical Jesus:
1. Catholic Jesus has been widely potrayed as one with his heart exposed. What normally known as Sacred Heart of Jesus. No where in the Bible did Jesus told ppl to honour his heart. The 12 promises of honoring the heart is not biblical..it keeps on emphasizing exposing the image of the heart to obtain grace and blessings when one honours the picture.
2. Catholic Jesus appear in several occassions revealing images of himself for ppl to venerate. The Divine Mercy image is one of the occassions in which 'Jesus' told ppl to make a painting of him and honour it to obtain grace and mercy. Biblical Jesus before His ascension pray for His followers and gave the command about preaching the good news and wait for the coming of the Holy Spirit, the Helper. He didnt give instructions to make paintings and hang and honour them.
3. Catholic Jesus is believed to reside in the tabernacle. That is why catholics when entering a catholic church will genuflect to show respect to the presence. Adoration of the Blessed Sacrament is when catholics believed that the consecrated host become real flesh and blood, soul and divinity of Christ. When placed in a receptacle known as monstrance, catholics are to kneel before that bread and worship it as if Christ is really there. Biblical Jesus celebrate the Last supper and insititute it as a remembrance for all of us. He never ask ppl to place that bread in a photo frame and worship it. Worship God in spirit and in truth.
Conclusion: Catholic Jesus reveal many things in which is contrary to the teachings of the Bible and in no way is the same Jesus as we read about in the Bible. According to readings, worship of organs such as Heart is a babylonian cult practise.
[b]For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. But I do not think I am in the least inferior to those "super-apostles." I may not be a trained speaker, but I do have knowledge. We have made this perfectly clear to you in every way.
Was it a sin for me to lower myself in order to elevate you by preaching the gospel of God to you free of charge? I robbed other churches by receiving support from them so as to serve you. And when I was with you and needed something, I was not a burden to anyone, for the brothers who came from Macedonia supplied what I needed. I have kept myself from being a burden to you in any way, and will continue to do so. As surely as the truth of Christ is in me, nobody in the regions of Achaia will stop this boasting of mine. Why? Because I do not love you? God knows I do! And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
-2 Corinthians 11:4-15
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Jesus asked us to follow his teachings passed down from the apostles and the Holy Spirit is always revealing Himself in history. What you mentioned Sacred heart etc are devotions revealed by Christ himself. It is not compulsory for Catholics to follow.
Isn't it interesting that when protestants mentioned about so and so pastors receive some revelations from God, nobody say anything and just believe. But Catholics mentioned something like on a world wide scale, they started to bad mouth.
Remember my brother, Satan always go for division and not harmony.
Somebody said that RC bible is different from King James bible. Sorry which one came first. Where did the King James bible comes from ? It is definitely not from original book ( there was none ) . It is all from the Catholic Bible.
Unlike Islam, Christianity is not a religion of a book but spirit. Christ, in order to pass down his teaching has formed a Church - The RC Church.
Can anyone of your man build church claim to trace back to the apostles or may be Rome ( St Peter and Paul died there ) ?
Look at all your contradiction in all your spilted protestant churches. Are you sure you are same in teaching ? why so many sects ?
Let me tell you why. Because each pastor seek to have his own power base and spilt from the mainstream. Each pastor thinks he know the bible best. Cannot agree , spilt from them. this is what happen between RC and others.
Not humble enough to submit to authority.
Why they always based only on bible and anything not in it, condemn ?Because when you form a group, you need a constitution. You need a base. They have no base, no Vatican, No Pope, so follow the lawyer style, cling to a book and interpret the way they want. -
Sheesh ... please forgive me, SISOriginally posted by stupidissmart:I say he gives the red light...
now u know wat I am talking about ?
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agree wif u sliew.
I do not understand y protestants like to compare RC bible and thier new version of bible while they DONT compile from the ORIGINAL scriptures. well well...the new version...then i wonder..is it really the word of GOd...or human ...for they do not have the original scripture to compile it wif...i do not wish to argue...but u cant dney there are some protestants go as far as calling RC as a cult. Well well...whatever u say....history remains history..and it could not be change. RC long exist b4 protestants...( how to protest if there is no RC rite)...therefore this includes the bible. So..what ever thing u quote from the bible...is actually from RC itself...unless u wrote ur own bible if u claim ur bible to be different. If yes...again...where are the original scriptures ..how u compile the bible.
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Remember my brother, Satan always go for division and not harmony.
This sentence means alot. In order for christianity to be weak..satan must divide them. And..we r ....we r weak...arguing wif each other...fighting which one another who is right about the truth...pointing finger here and there..and calling each other cult. Say a pray...and reflect...is this wat God actually wans? well..Satan had really done a good job in dividing christianity. -
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Isn't it interesting that when protestants mentioned about so and so pastors receive some revelations from God, nobody say anything and just believe. But Catholics mentioned something like on a world wide scale, they started to bad mouth.
OMG (sorry for the pun), this is a sweeping generalization. Take this forum for example, how many, like you said, "just believe"? The regular forummers - sillyme, neon, fandango, ventin, chin eng, even worried99, how many of them subscribe to that? I'm sorry, but the new age churches don't make up the whole Protestant body.
Ok, the next thing you say, this forum is flooded with Christian fundamentalists.
Remember my brother, Satan always go for division and not harmony.
I see a big big irony here. Let me remind everyone that the FIRST schism in the history of Christianity happened in ... you guess it ... the Catholic Church.
Talk about Satan causing division.
Somebody said that RC bible is different from King James bible. Sorry which one came first. Where did the King James bible comes from ? It is definitely not from original book ( there was none ) . It is all from the Catholic Bible.
Shows your ignorance of the history of bible compilation. The KJV was not compiled from the Catholic Bible, which I assume is the Latin Vulgate. The Latin Vulgate relied on different manuscripts (the correct word to use, not 'bible' or 'scripture') from the KJV.
In all honesty, the KJV is not without criticism. Many modern versions actually relied on the Catholic translation for some verses, since the Authorized Version, or rather the Textus Receptus, sucks for those verses.
If fandango is to read this reply, may I know his opinion of the Codex Sinaiticus and Vaticanus? These are the manuscripts upon which the Latin Vulgate was based. Good news for the Catholics: these are the earliest surviving manuscripts of the New Testament.
Can anyone of your man build church claim to trace back to the apostles or may be Rome ( St Peter and Paul died there ) ?
There is no historical, even Scriptural, basis for Peter and Paul dying in Rome. The Catholic claim of Peter starting the church in Rome is a weak one. In Acts and probably elsewhere, Peter is described as based in Jerusalem. And the funny thing is, the head of the Jerusalem Church is James and not Peter?
Rome was where the mad emperor reigned and no doubt where anti-christian sentiments were at its strongest.
Look at all your contradiction in all your spilted protestant churches. Are you sure you are same in teaching ? why so many sects ?
Even CHC and NCC agrees on salvation by faith through grace and on the surface, Sola Scriptura.
They have no base, no Vatican, No Pope, so follow the lawyer style, cling to a book and interpret the way they want.
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The Codex Sinaiticus and Vaticanus are currently the oldest manuscripts not because they are the FIRST copy. It is just that they outlasted the original earliest papyrus copies of the Scriptures. Many view that both codex have been currupted.Originally posted by Icemoon:If fandango is to read this reply, may I know his opinion of the Codex Sinaiticus and Vaticanus? These are the manuscripts upon which the Latin Vulgate was based. Good news for the Catholics: these are the earliest surviving manuscripts of the New Testament.
I stand by the KJV because of the translation from Ben Chayyim Hebrew Masoretic Text and the Greek Textus Receptusas the original language used in biblical times.
You may suspect that modern bible version (NIV, NKJV and "can't remember acroynmns") may have been translated from the 2 codex. -
Talking about seperating people, I thought the appearence of Christ has already start to divide up the jews into different and smaller groups. So christ is a satan ? From the OT, he even predicts tat someone will come and test the people from the scripture
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Then fandango says tat george bush is a satanist but he keep making christian policy...
If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
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And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
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Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
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Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
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And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
http://christianity.about.com/library/weekly/aa110899.htm
there r more instances about bush being more christian than u think if u want.
in short, all this point to the conclusion
christainity is satanist...
I know I am going to be shoot by tis
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The Codex Sinaiticus and Vaticanus are currently the oldest manuscripts not because they are the FIRST copy. It is just that they outlasted the original earliest papyrus copies of the Scriptures.
To talk like a papyrus scholar, these two are the oldest extant manuscripts.
Many view that both codex have been currupted.
I read somewhere that they disagree in many places. What irony. While Christians would like to argue for the early date of the manuscripts, the reality could be they have been corrupted. So much for the reliability of the 'oldest extant manuscripts'.
I stand by the KJV because of the translation from Ben Chayyim Hebrew Masoretic Text and the Greek Textus Receptusas the original language used in biblical times.
The best Masoretic Texts are still 9th or 10th century productions. The Aleppo Codex dated to that era. Since the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, it is widely agreed that the LXX Septuagint is closer to the original Hebrew Bible than the Masoretic Texts. (the LXX bears closer resemblance to the scrolls)
Regarding the Textus Receptus, what makes it more authentic than the Vaticanus and Sinaiticus?
You may suspect that modern bible version (NIV, NKJV and "can't remember acroynmns") may have been translated from the 2 codex.
Wait a minute, you mean the NKJV is a translation from scratch? Then how dare they call it New KJV.
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And I fear we will soon hear words such as 'Whore of Babylon', The Harlot what not.....sigh..Originally posted by NeonTetra:Conclusion: Catholic Jesus reveal many things in which is contrary to the teachings of the Bible and in no way is the same Jesus as we read about in the Bible. According to readings, worship of organs such as Heart is a babylonian cult practise.
So would one you kindly prove why we should believe that the Bible is the sole rule of faith? Because you see, in the end, it all boils down to the Bible, when all our arguements are concerned. -
"But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thous hast learned them;
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."
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So the apostles and prophets were inspired to preach and write God's Word, and the Bible is inspired and profitable. But how does this demonstrate that the written Word of God is the only infallible rule of faith for God's people?Originally posted by fandango:"But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thous hast learned them;
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."
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Because it was preserved from the Byzantine Text, while the roots of the 2 Codex are from the coppupted Alexandrian Text.Originally posted by Icemoon:Regarding the Textus Receptus, what makes it more authentic than the Vaticanus and Sinaiticus? -
Whatever Bible you use, the story of Jesus is the same. The Catholic bible did not have a different story than any other bible. But one thing i know, in KJB, the word food is wrongly translated as 'meat'Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:So the apostles and prophets were inspired to preach and write God's Word, and the Bible is inspired and profitable. But how does this demonstrate that the written Word of God is the only infallible rule of faith for God's people?
I think we should stop judging each other churches. I am very proud that the RC Church have survived for 2000 years with unbroken histories with sorts of persecutions. There is a Chinese saying that evil will not prevail over good.
The Church run by humans may have make a lot of mistakes ( which church does not anyway) but she is DIVINE in origin. The RC church 2000 YRS HISTORY is prooof that Christ has built the church on Peter which hell will not prevail.
Peter body is confirmed by scientists that the tomb is beneath the altar of St Peter, in the Vatican.
My brothers and sisters, do not try to twist history to suit your church agenda. Accept history and live your faith. I am not asking to convert to Catholic. Just be a good and humble Christian.
Being anti-catholic or anti-anything is not good for your soul.
Do you know why many people are not converted ? Because of this division of Christians
We Catholics are committed to ecumenism. We want all Christians to work together for the Lord. The Lutheran, Anglican etc are already doing that with the RC.
In the past 2000 yrs, many heretical sects have tried to destroy the RC, but she prevail and in fact is growing stronger. It is still the largest religion and denomination in the world. Lastest news from US shows that Protestants are declining and unbelievers are rising.
We need to work together inspite of our differences. Even in a family there are diff what more a group that comprise 30% of the world population ?
Shall we look at diff or common points ? you chose
But i have no hope for those who said that the RC Church is cult or not Christian. I think they are cult themselves because this is what Satan do - cause divisions and quarrel. We must pray for them my fellow Christians. -
I think we should stop judging each other churches. I am very proud that the RC Church have survived for 2000 years with unbroken histories with sorts of persecutions.
This is a big joke. Who is the presecuted? Ask the Jews and Muslims who are the persecuted.
The RC church 2000 YRS HISTORY is prooof that Christ has built the church on Peter which hell will not prevail.
Huh, then the Muslim 1500 years history is proof Allah has built Islam on Muslims on which Christianity cannot prevail?
Peter body is confirmed by scientists that the tomb is beneath the altar of St Peter, in the Vatican.
Huh, how they know that is Peter's body and not any other person? They had Peter's DNA or that of his descendants to do a matching?
Do you know why many people are not converted ? Because of this division of Christians
Not true. Just think deeper. Buddhists can accept the fact that Buddhism has division, but do they stop believing 'cos of that? Same for the Muslims and Jews.
Just ask Nelstar and SIS why they're not convinced.
In the past 2000 yrs, many heretical sects have tried to destroy the RC, but she prevail and in fact is growing stronger. It is still the largest religion and denomination in the world. Lastest news from US shows that Protestants are declining and unbelievers are rising.
Read the bible carefully. Numbers don't count for anything. Only a few will willingly enter the narrow gate.
But i have no hope for those who said that the RC Church is cult or not Christian. I think they are cult themselves because this is what Satan do - cause divisions and quarrel. We must pray for them my fellow Christians.
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You just hit the Book of Revelation jackpot, if you know what i mean.Originally posted by sliew:We Catholics are committed to ecumenism. We want all Christians to work together for the Lord. The Lutheran, Anglican etc are already doing that with the RC. -
btw....i'm anglican. HAHA
I am totally against the idea -
turkish university is too free?
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[quote]Originally posted by NeonTetra:
btw....i'm anglican. HAHA
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u went out from RC and join anglican? well..if there are so many things u disagree wif RC...then what about anglican? ...which started off just becoz the king wanted to marry more than 1 wife??? i attended anglican mass b4...they too have cardinals...or archbishop something like this which is quite similar wif RC.....
well anglican also do say these ( sry..forget the name of this pray ) " we believe in the one and holy catholic church, the communion of saints, the forginess of sins...the resurrection of the body..and the life everlasting, Amen. " .... -
Originally posted by TrU PeAce (^0*)v:
Anglican do came out from RC....not simply because of the marry more than one wife thing...RC like to teach this. The Church of England has many similarities with RC...the liturgy, the ordination of Bishops, deacons and priests, we have no cardinal btw...they dress like one doesnt mean they are one. The prayers some of which is familiar to that of RC...even the Apostles' Creed. But the main thing is that it is a Protestant Church based on the 39 Articles of Religion which spell out clearly the Episcopal Faith.
[quote]Originally posted by NeonTetra:
[b]btw....i'm anglican. HAHA
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u went out from RC and join anglican? well..if there are so many things u disagree wif RC...then what about anglican? ...which started off just becoz the king wanted to marry more than 1 wife??? i attended anglican mass b4...they too have cardinals...or archbishop something like this which is quite similar wif RC.....
well anglican also do say these ( sry..forget the name of this pray ) " we believe in the one and holy catholic church, the communion of saints, the forginess of sins...the resurrection of the body..and the life everlasting, Amen. " ....
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sry...but RC didnt teach me that anglican exist just because of the marry more than one wife thing.....pls dun blame RC..u could blame my lack of knowledge..but it has nothing to do wif RC...how i know this....my protestants frens...when they question me about RC..they brought anglican in....and they enlighten me .....those frens of mine ....are my very close frens....but they wish that i would come out from RC and join them. well...it seems that each protestant claims thier own churches to be the best...while they actually DISAGREE among themselves .......that is the MAIN reason y i wouldnt leave RC. they are just united not becoz they are actually following the scriptures...united just becoz they go against RC....that's where the word protestant come from......to " protest "Originally posted by NeonTetra:Anglican do came out from RC....not simply because of the marry more than one wife thing...RC like to teach this. The Church of England has many similarities with RC...the liturgy, the ordination of Bishops, deacons and priests, we have no cardinal btw...they dress like one doesnt mean they are one. The prayers some of which is familiar to that of RC...even the Apostles' Creed. But the main thing is that it is a Protestant Church based on the 39 Articles of Religion which spell out clearly the Episcopal Faith.
And the word 'catholic' found in the Apostles' Creed, which many church also recite does not mean Roman Catholic....it simply means universal.
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sry...but RC didnt teach me that anglican exist just because of the marry more than one wife thing.....pls dun blame RC..u could blame my lack of knowledge..but it has nothing to do wif RC...how i know this....my protestants frens...when they question me about RC..they brought anglican in....and they enlighten me .....those frens of mine ....are my very close frens....but they wish that i would come out from RC and join them. well...it seems that each protestant claims thier own churches to be the best...while they actually DISAGREE among themselves .......that is the MAIN reason y i wouldnt leave RC. they are just united not becoz they are actually following the scriptures...united just becoz they go against RC....that's where the word protestant come from......to " protest "Originally posted by NeonTetra:Anglican do came out from RC....not simply because of the marry more than one wife thing...RC like to teach this. The Church of England has many similarities with RC...the liturgy, the ordination of Bishops, deacons and priests, we have no cardinal btw...they dress like one doesnt mean they are one. The prayers some of which is familiar to that of RC...even the Apostles' Creed. But the main thing is that it is a Protestant Church based on the 39 Articles of Religion which spell out clearly the Episcopal Faith.
And the word 'catholic' found in the Apostles' Creed, which many church also recite does not mean Roman Catholic....it simply means universal.
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Protest against the erred teachings of the RC...thats why call protestants.Originally posted by TrU PeAce (^0*)v:sry...but RC didnt teach me that anglican exist just because of the marry more than one wife thing.....pls dun blame RC..u could blame my lack of knowledge..but it has nothing to do wif RC...how i know this....my protestants frens...when they question me about RC..they brought anglican in....and they enlighten me .....those frens of mine ....are my very close frens....but they wish that i would come out from RC and join them. well...it seems that each protestant claims thier own churches to be the best...while they actually DISAGREE among themselves .......that is the MAIN reason y i wouldnt leave RC. they are just united not becoz they are actually following the scriptures...united just becoz they go against RC....that's where the word protestant come from......to " protest "
P/s....i might sound harsh..forgive me brother...peace be wif u. just wish to share my view.
Concerning division among protestant denominations.....hmm...so far i have yet to hear some division over some plain biblical doctrines. The Bible is the final authority in all things. Not the chief pastor, not the Bishop, not the leaders......
i say that not only to RC, any protestant churches whereby pastor claim he is like God and has authority over the Word....i label them as cults.