Love one another as yourself
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wah... this forum has gone so quiet recently...
anyway, "'You shall love your neighbour as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these."
Sometimes it seems like the toughest thing to do, especially when that neighbor is a friend who has hurt you deeply.
How do we put aside that hurt and love our neighbour??? -
Not too good at these things but i find it helps by looking beyond that person's faults ... recognising his/her greater traits & that sometimes, one cannot help but slip up? Grasp onto that pain & use it as a yardstick in repairing the old friendship?Originally posted by KittynMeow:wah... this forum has gone so quiet recently...
anyway, "'You shall love your neighbour as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these."
Sometimes it seems like the toughest thing to do, especially when that neighbor is a friend who has hurt you deeply.
How do we put aside that hurt and love our neighbour???
Sounds all too easy yeah i know; truth is it never will be
We all wish it were so though, don't we? -
aiya, last year's cleanup deleted a similar thread on this.
true, it's so hard to do this.. simple and yet so impossible at times..
that's why they say to truly love someone, you must deny yourself. -
Well man's greatest virtue is to forgive... his worst is that he forgets! haha...
okok... but its true mankind has the ability to forgive and in time, hee/she forgets... (though she always tends to NOT forget so easily)
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its easy to say "forgive and forget" but I find it somewhat illogical. How can I say I have forgiven the person when I have not forgotten the wrong/ hurt he/she caused?
My idea is that only when we are able to forget that "wrong" or "hurt" then can we say we have "forgiven" the person because forgiving means not holding that hurt against him/her. If i still remember the hurt and behave unnaturally to him/her because of that incident, then I haven't forgiven him/her, have i?
Sounds extreme,... I'm confusing myself... haha -
it's hard to erase one's memories, but forgiving doesn't mean forgetting the incidents that caused hurt or pain.
when you forgive, you choose not to let these memories affect the relationship between you and person who might have caused these unpleasant memories.
and as mentioned in my first reply, you deny yourself the choice of letting grieved by these thoughts. -
When God forgives our sins, it is saying to forget the sins and give us another chance. It is not that we forget but we choose to forget, meaning we choose not to hold it against the person.
For example, if a person has told alot of lies before but you decide to forgive him. and one day he comes up to you and ask you to believe him on a matter, you decided to "forget" what he had done in the past and trust him.
In another words, when you FORGET, you are giving the person a chance to start all over again AS IF he had done nothing wrong and NOT that he had done nothing wrong. -
look at my siggy...Originally posted by KittynMeow:wah... this forum has gone so quiet recently...
anyway, "'You shall love your neighbour as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these."
Sometimes it seems like the toughest thing to do, especially when that neighbor is a friend who has hurt you deeply.
How do we put aside that hurt and love our neighbour???
love the person first, not wat the person has done. even the most despicable person deserves love.. well...
its hard but i guess if everyone can attempt to do it, the world would be a much better place. -
indeed....
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Paiseh, I forgive but I don't forget.
But sometimes I think about it, who am I to forgive anybody?
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I luv my neighbours......esp when I go to their hse to watch TV and they treat me to beer....
see beh song leh... -
You are really lucky to have such good neighbours.Originally posted by Troy437:I luv my neighbours......esp when I go to their hse to watch TV and they treat me to beer.... see beh song leh...
Mine? I don't even know what is their names. -
x2Originally posted by DeadPoet:You are really lucky to have such good neighbours.
Mine? I don't even know what is their names. -
me too. cancerians forgive but dun forget.Originally posted by DeadPoet:Paiseh, I forgive but I don't forget.
But sometimes I think about it, who am I to forgive anybody? -
that's exactly my point. That is the hardest thing to do.... because somehow or other, being human, we will always "subconsciously" remember that wrong/previous hurt.Originally posted by gasband:When God forgives our sins, it is saying to forget the sins and give us another chance. It is not that we forget but we choose to forget, meaning we choose not to hold it against the person.
For example, if a person has told alot of lies before but you decide to forgive him. and one day he comes up to you and ask you to believe him on a matter, you decided to "forget" what he had done in the past and trust him.
In another words, when you FORGET, you are giving the person a chance to start all over again AS IF he had done nothing wrong and NOT that he had done nothing wrong. -
some thoughts... jus my own opinions...
does not forgetting means not truly forgiving?
does forgetting means truly forgiving?
forgetting is just a human's way of erasing memories that hurt. it is often so much easier to forget pain then to face it.
forgiving means a concious decision never to hold the issue against the other party again. and this itself is hard when we feel the pain had not been justified.
me not God, i try my best to forgive others. over time, certain things that seem unforgivable are forgiven and forgotten. but at the end of the day, i realise their 'sins', my 'sins' have all be erased by the finished work of Christ. so what is left is this : forgiving yourself...
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to me forgiving and forgetting does not have to come hand in hand. (although it may be hard not to forgive when one has forgotten! )Originally posted by the_don:some thoughts... jus my own opinions...
does not forgetting means not truly forgiving?
does forgetting means truly forgiving?
forgetting is just a human's way of erasing memories that hurt. it is often so much easier to forget pain then to face it.
forgiving means a concious decision never to hold the issue against the other party again. and this itself is hard when we feel the pain had not been justified.
me not God, i try my best to forgive others. over time, certain things that seem unforgivable are forgiven and forgotten. but at the end of the day, i realise their 'sins', my 'sins' have all be erased by the finished work of Christ. so what is left is this : forgiving yourself... -
i stay here 6yrs+ i still dunnoe who is my neighbors.... sometimes in the same lift still ask them which flr, end up they stay at the same flr as me....Originally posted by DeadPoet:You are really lucky to have such good neighbours.
Mine? I don't even know what is their names. 
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on the more serious note... i believe tat when God say to forgive and forget... it's not referring to forgetting what has happened. unless we lost our memory, it will stay with us always...
but to forget the pain, the hurt, the unjusified feelings we had towards the people becos of the incidents. -
Bingo! so if i still can't forget the pain and aoid being affected by that memory of it, I feel i can't really say i've forgiven a person ....Originally posted by tare:on the more serious note... i believe tat when God say to forgive and forget... it's not referring to forgetting what has happened. unless we lost our memory, it will stay with us always...
but to forget the pain, the hurt, the unjusified feelings we had towards the people becos of the incidents.
somehow i knew you would see my point... kakakaka
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the healing of emotions takes time... we ain't computers... can't just press delete and tat's it... (even then it goes to our recycle bin which can be retrieve)Originally posted by KittynMeow:Bingo! so if i still can't forget the pain and aoid being affected by that memory of it, I feel i can't really say i've forgiven a person ....
somehow i knew you would see my point... kakakaka 
pray it thru and let God do His work in ur heart....
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me been thru that in relationships.... but I always leave it to God, trusting that God will forgive the other party... then if God had forgiven him, then who are we to hold on to the faults of others?
Everytime kena hurt, just pray that God lift the pain away from me and pray for the forgiveness of others sin so that he can forgive ours too... -
better that way, cos sometimes, bring frens home, they dont know too much about u. if not, no privacyOriginally posted by tare:i stay here 6yrs+ i still dunnoe who is my neighbors.... sometimes in the same lift still ask them which flr, end up they stay at the same flr as me.... -
bring friends back and knowing neighbors got link? *blur*Originally posted by jaimeyeo:better that way, cos sometimes, bring frens home, they dont know too much about u. if not, no privacy -
neighbours know u or ur family well, then diff to bring frens home to shag laOriginally posted by tare:bring friends back and knowing neighbors got link? *blur*