What does Roman Catholics believe in?
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Trinity...
go read about it..Originally posted by ventin:I am a Baptist. If Mary is the Mother of God, then how is God the beginning and the end? pls explain! -
Those books collectively known as Apocrypha are Jewish legends and folktales and do not have the same canonised status as in the remaining 66 books of the Bible. Some Protestant denominations still read them for extra knowledge but they do not view these books as the written Word of God and no doctrines are to be extracted from them.Originally posted by GrimR:i also noticed that NIV(new international version) bible has removed some books unlike the catholic bible.Tink it also applies for the king james vers. too.Been wondering why... -
Sorry ah....i not very theologist yet......what's Pontifex Maximus? Sounds like the name of a muscle group.
It is more or less the official name of the Pope.....means chief priest(or bishop not sure).To my understanding, there is a central doctrinal guide if that's what you mean from the Vactican in the Catholic church. But it is to my understanding that it is not followed as strictly as thought. That's why you see there are things like pentocostal catholics
There are 2 main doctrines in the catholic church.The Eastern Doctrine and the Western Doctrine.The Western Doctrine is know as the Roman Catholics and the Eastern Doctrine is known as the Greek othodox.Within these 2 main groups there are many small groups that differ from the main church in small ways that does not matter too much.Those that do differ in the primary doctrines have been ex-communicated(kicked out)The ecumenicial movement, I believe, started not with the catholics. It came up something during the 1960s when churches strived to have national council of churches and world council of churchs. The movement is flawed in many ways.
Yes it was started during the second vatican council though i have no idea what it does
Ah...the Pope...the most sensitive topic
Well technically the Pope is the so called head of the church and he presides of the council of bishops which functions much like a parliment where they sit down and tharsh issuses before voting on it...while the Pope is cerimonial in most respects cept for when everything is undecided then he steps in and decides.But mostly a council decides.For your infomation the council is drawn from bishops from all ove the world.
well, from what I understand, the Pope extends an influence but not control over the churches. So difference catholic churches does teach different doctrines.
And apparently, the "infallible" part is not as extreme as some christians make it sound like. No catholic really believe the Pope is perfect. But Infallibility has got to do with Canon Law passing and Legistration. So more of an administrative tool apparently. -
Just to add , lest someone thinks or accuses the verse in Luke to be twisted in the Catholic version, here's the verse in NIV:Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:FYI , Mary is called Mother of God because Jesus Christ her son who was born of her as man is not only man but is also truly God. Mary is not a goddess. She is as human as our own mothers. The big difference lies in the sons - Mary's Son and our mothers' sons. Mary's Son is the Son of God! Our mothers' sons are human, very human. How true then were the words of the cousin Elizabeth when she greeted Mary in the Gospel, "Blessed are you amongst women and blessed is thy fruit of your womb. And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?" (Luke 1:42-43)
41When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. 42In a loud voice she exclaimed: "Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the child you will bear! 43But why am I so favored, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
Note that Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit, so the blessing technically came from God. -
With |-|05| posting in mind, i am not too sure if anyone noticed, but Inoticed that with the Pope and the councils that were mentioned, it seems that all of it involves man. There's no mentioned of God or the authority of the Scriptures.
Well technically the Pope is the so called head of the church and he presides of the council of bishops which functions much like a parliment where they sit down and tharsh issuses before voting on it...while the Pope is cerimonial in most respects cept for when everything is undecided then he steps in and decides.But mostly a council decides.For your infomation the council is drawn from bishops from all ove the world.
I understand that the some doctrine and teaching of the Roman Catholics were originated from the Vatican Councils.For example, purgatory, sacrement of penance (confession to a priest) and many more. The authority of the Pope and Council have to be questioned. Even the purpose of the Pope have to be questioned.
I think Protestants will not call Mary "The Mother of God" but just "The Mother of Jesus". There is a huge difference here. I fully acknowledge our Lord Jesus is fully man and fully God. We Know
of the Trinity as - The Father, The Son, and The Holy Ghost. We have to remember that Chirst is divine, while Mary was only human born with sin. By giving Mary the title of "Mother of God", it is escalating Mary to a divine status. -
Yo, regarding scripture and sacred tradition, you may want to take a look at this link here. http://www.catholic.com/library/Scripture_and_Tradition.asp
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This happens when there is need for interpertation of scriptures...and the bible...after all everybody will disagree on how the words should be interpurtered so like someone mentioned before it is to get a final view on something.Originally posted by fandango:With |-|05| posting in mind, i am not too sure if anyone noticed, but Inoticed that with the Pope and the councils that were mentioned, it seems that all of it involves man. There's no mentioned of God or the authority of the Scriptures.
Botht he pope and the bishops spend most of their time reading the bible so we usually leave it up to them to point us in the right direction.However God and the scriptures are the basic of our religon so i have no idea what point you are trying to bring up here....could you explain more?
And you would be correct on this point.....however it would be interesting to note that for most of them the church was forced to make a ruling due to pressure from the people actually....all this happen a long time ago and the vatican has recended on some of this issues in recent years...however they are starting with small stuff 1st.Not sure how they would move on the bigger issues next time.
I understand that the some doctrine and teaching of the Roman Catholics were originated from the Vatican Councils.For example, purgatory, sacrement of penance (confession to a priest) and many more. The authority of the Pope and Council have to be questioned. Even the purpose of the Pope have to be questioned.
Those who disagreed have already broken off and have formed other christian communities....(i.e protestants,lutheran etc etc)
Well we address Jesus as God so i see why we cannot use that term.
I think Protestants will not call Mary "The Mother of God" but just "The Mother of Jesus". There is a huge difference here. I fully acknowledge our Lord Jesus is fully man and fully God. We Know
of the Trinity as - The Father, The Son, and The Holy Ghost. We have to remember that Chirst is divine, while Mary was only human born with sin. By giving Mary the title of "Mother of God", it is escalating Mary to a divine status.
Anyway it would be interesting to know that Mary was not really paid much attention too until recent years....somewhere in the 17th-19th cent when a whole obsession started and once again the vatican was forced to make a ruling on that.Honestly speaking i have no idea why. -
I have one ex-Catholic fren who has been in the RC faith for almost half a century said to me frankly when i asked abt Catholic Indulgences and Plenary indulgences and Purgatory. He told me that it is the invention of one of the previous Pope to obtain financial funding to build the St Peter's Basilica we see in the Vatican today. They literally sell 'salvation tickets' to people whereby paying a sum of money will entitle u to a piece of 'ticket' which so called buy u a place in heaven. It attracts many people and this applies to the doctrine of purgatory whereby living people paid a sum of money for mass to be said on behalf of the deceased so that they can leave tt purgatory earlier....
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and honestly? you would be absolutely correct!!Originally posted by NeonTetra:I have one ex-Catholic fren who has been in the RC faith for almost half a century said to me frankly when i asked abt Catholic Indulgences and Plenary indulgences and Purgatory. He told me that it is the invention of one of the previous Pope to obtain financial funding to build the St Peter's Basilica we see in the Vatican today. They literally sell 'salvation tickets' to people whereby paying a sum of money will entitle u to a piece of 'ticket' which so called buy u a place in heaven. It attracts many people and this applies to the doctrine of purgatory whereby living people paid a sum of money for mass to be said on behalf of the deceased so that they can leave tt purgatory earlier....
i'm also an ex-catholic
take for example the crusades where knights and kings and common people were told they would go to heaven for fighting for God and killing infidels....doesnt that sound familiar? well my friend it is a fact that alot of the church's early rulings were made during a time when the popes(yes i said popes since during the middle ages there were like 7 people claiming to be popes) were fighting for political power and infulence.heck the reason you have so many demomenations today instead of just 2 will be because some people got pissed off at the way the church was being run by a bunch of courrupt old men that the revolted and splintered to form their own groups(now known as protestants who spilt and spilt again).
Which is why the present church has been trying to remove alot of the laws laid down during that time.
Anyway i doubt which ever denomenation you belong too will condem you to hell instantly since God does still reward good behavior -
Haha i hope i am not too late... but anyway... just wondering how much of openess would everyone be willing to listen to the other side of the story....
Oh well...
Role of Mary...
I think one of the users have rightly say that because Christ is GOd... and Mary is the mother of God.. and hence... we call her Mary our mother, Mother of God.
I don't think protestants in general would be able to accept Mary, a mere human, as someone catholics give much honor and respect to...
In the first place why do catholics think so highly of her... From the greeting of the angel when he said, "Hail Mary, Full of grace the lord is with you" to the greeting of Elizabeth, "Blessed are u amongst women and blessed is the fruit of your womb Jesus". And not forgetting the magnificat Mary proclaimed right after the visitation.
Subsequently, at the wedding of Cana, Mary noticed that the wine is running out and approached jesus to do something about it, and even though jesus said "it's not my time yet", Mary just told the servants to "do whatever he tells you to". Later at the cross, before Jesus died, he told John, "behold your mother" and to mary, "behold your son".
Firstly, let me clarify that the wedding of cana is a good example as to show what a powerful mediator mary can be.. Don't be mistaken, Catholics do not recognise that Mary answers prayers, What she does is basically to pray for us too, like how we ask our friends to pray for us. Now then the arguement would be extended out to saints and all... some say they are dead.. BUT are they? Scientically maybe... spiritually doubt it.
I'm sure when we die, we will say something really important... or do we say something real dumb? Jesus, before he died, gave us a special gift... someone he held very dearly when he was alive.. his mother.. When someone gives us a gift, we can either accept or reject it.. but if you don't like it, don't hurt the giver by saying nasty things about the gift...
Sure, everyone can go straight to god... No one is doubting that... and no one is arguing against it.. but putting it in humans terms, in a normal family, the father is the head at most times, but do we go to the father always? I'm sure, here and there, we go through our siblings and our mum or whatsoever.. Point is, who's to say what's the right route to take when every way leads back to the same source?
Purgatory
The catholic church believes that it's more a state rather than a place or whatsoever. Please understand the catholics do not just come up with a dogma or doctrine and just accept it immediately... it follows with the holy spirit and the group of believers then.. And for donkey years, catholics do believe in this thing called the purgatory. It used to be thought as a place but under the new vatican and new enlightenment, it seemed to come in the form of a state.
Many protestants argue here from the verse "I am the way the truth and the life, no one can come to the father accept through me" which seemed to be highly supportive of the first arguement about mary. However, i guess, what is neccessary to point out is not the exact words of the bible, but the message it had. The language then and now is different though the message remained the same.
Purgatory is a state of time where souls, after they died and are not ready to meet god, prepare for that encounter. Not everyone can forgive themselves, even when God forgives you. Or likewise, they are not ready to let go to leave their loved ones behind. And for people who are not exactly saintly and have little blotches here and there.. it's a place for them to "wash their robes".
Priesthood
It seems cruel huh that to be a priest you can't have a family. Oh well, the vatican had this ruling NOT because the bible said so, but for practical reasons.
it was known that most of the disciples had families, only one. So what's wrong? No one said it's wrong, but it's not practical.
one of the reasons why we respect priests because they can give this up to serve. Put it this way, if you are a priest, you got a family, your family wants to spend time with you but your parish needs you.. who's more important? Many would say parish.. but then how much of a dad, a husband can you play?
Priests renew their vows every year to mark their determination to cont to want to serve christ in church. Not everyone though has the vow of poverty. This is only for certain orders of the priests. When i say orders it would mean the Franciscans, Jesuits, Carmalites, Diocese etc. They are not the same as denominations, they are just different parts of the one body working in different ways to pass that message of Christ. Franciscans are one of them who take the vow of poverty. vow of poverty is not that they have to be poor and all... though some would want to live that vow in their everyday lives, vow of poverty would be more to give up what they have if needed to their brother who needs it more than them. In singapore it's quite hard to achieve that but in other countries, certain orders are really strict about this and even live poorly.
Staying commited to someone or something you love in these sacrifices you make, may not be a sacrifice to those who are called to the religious vocations. Afterall, marriage is something you give wholeheartedly, why not the "Holy orders" (Sacrament catholics call for men becoming priests)
Hmm... now as to why we go to confessions... hmm.. ok.. we take from the bible that jesus said to Peter (whom we thought to be the 1st pope) that 'whatever you bind shall be bound, whatever you loose shall be loosen" or so... we take it that peter representing all priests, that jesus gave peter the authority to absolve us from our sins. But he's just the physical mediator/instrument, god uses to speak to us.
Also, the priest represents the one big catholic community. When we sin, we not only hurt ourselves, but the bigger whole. Thats why during mass, catholics say "i confess to almighty god and to you my brothers and sisters that i've sinned through my own fault"... It's a sorry to our bigger family for failing to be a christian at times and hurting you with my actions intentionally. It's impossible to say sorry to the big family without going through the priestss for practical reasons.
I guess i will stop here... I don't say what i say is the absolute truth. and i used to be unconvinced by catholics because not many know what they are doing. and i used to pin point catholics for whatever they do, but i've learnt that what i am not comfortable with may not be wrong. I don't intend to convert anyone in my posting neither do i wish to have both sides bashing each other up... till now there's more important things to do like praying for peace and for change of hearts to terrorism and lesser killings... Maybe as christians or as just a being, part of this world, we should start doing something about that instead. -
I am a bit confused... Jesus is the son of God. So is jesus god or not ? I thought there was only 1 god ? If jesus is god and his father is one too, then tat makes it 2 isn't it ? If mary is the mother of Jesus, then by right she should be the wife or lover or watever of God. Why suddenly she become the mother of it ?
For Purgatory is it mentioned in the bible ? If not then doesn't it means it come from human ? Holy spirits ? No one know for sure about it isn't it ? Does tat means god still have things to say but forget to write it in the bible ?
BTW the word Tinity is never mention in the bible before either. Meaning it is also conceived out by human itself. -
No need to answer this one. He is not happy with Christians from day one because they knock at his HDB flat too many times. Regardless of what answers given, it will never be good enough for him, so don't waste your time here. He is NOT LOOKING FOR ANSWERS, he is looking for fights.Originally posted by stupidissmart:I am a bit confused... Jesus is the son of God. So is jesus god or not ? I thought there was only 1 god ? If jesus is god and his father is one too, then tat makes it 2 isn't it ? If mary is the mother of Jesus, then by right she should be the wife or lover or watever of God. Why suddenly she become the mother of it ?
BTW the word Tinity is never mention in the bible before either. Meaning it is also conceived out by human itself. -
Sure, if u just want to condemn a person and refuse to answer any question just because he do not like them, then it just shows how narrow minded u r. So only people who like christainity can comment on it ? I thought I have make my stand very early.
U r only targeting people when u make comments and not targeting facts. Shows how logical or emotional u r. -
SIS, this is not the way to ask such questions. No wonder you're accused of picking up a fight. Just wondering, have you read the Westminister Confession of Faith or the early church creeds regarding the nature of Christ? IMHO, it is better to phrase your questions from there (to show people you research but still don't understand).
There are a lot of things not found literally in Scripture. Trinity is one of them. Come on lah, Jesus also never proclaimed Himself to be God, in the literal sense. -
May i ask the Catholics,
1) Does you believe Mary to be sinless?
2) What does the word Son as in Son of God mean in the Bible?
3) Who is Jesus' Father? -
Originally posted by Icemoon:SIS, this is not the way to ask such questions. No wonder you're accused of picking up a fight. Just wondering, have you read the Westminister Confession of Faith or the early church creeds regarding the nature of Christ? IMHO, it is better to phrase your questions from there (to show people you research but still don't understand).
There are a lot of things not found literally in Scripture. Trinity is one of them. Come on lah, Jesus also never proclaimed Himself to be God, in the literal sense.
No point lah! Tell him to read the Westminister Confession of Faith, he will quote another internet link to counter it. This has been tactic all along. Give him an explanation he will follow with another argument. Comments should follow only with people who genuinely want to exchange IDEAS not CONFRONTATION. Nothing satisfy him. Still waiting for his "rational" approach and discussion about other religion. Don't know must wait how long???? 
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Is my questions wrong ? Maybe my tone is not proper but tis is how I write in forum. I am not very friendly in my replies on the subject of homo or in politics either.
Eng Chin if u want to talk about the other religion then please do it yourself. Why do I have to follow your request and talk about other religions ? If I talk or do not talk about other religion wat has tat got to do with u ?There are a lot of things not found literally in Scripture. Trinity is one of them. Come on lah, Jesus also never proclaimed Himself to be God, in the literal sense.
If it is not found in scripture then who coined these terms ? I mean trinity is one of the most used words and probably most important yet it is something tat came out from human ?
Actually jesus never say he is god. Tat is why i am puzzled why mary became the mother of god when he is just mother of jesus. There seems to be some confusion in tis isn't it ? -
Hi stupidissmart..
I don't know what's your background knowledge in christianity... that's why it's a bit hard to explain.. but anyway...let me explain from the catholic's point of view.
We believe in the trinity.. God the father, God the son and God the holy spirit. The doctrine of the Trinity is encapsulated in Matthew 28:19, where Jesus instructs the apostles: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit."
Let's take the example of the sun. With the sun, there's the rays and heat... These complete each other... they don't outdo each other.. but together they form the sun... Same as the trinity. They don't outdo each other, they don't represent 3 different gods but just 1 in different forms. God the father who watches us from heaven, God the son who become flesh to teach us and gives us salvation and God the holy spirit who guides us there.
Now, to come down on earth, it'll be hard to accept out of the blues, a guy appear from nowhere... hence that's why the use of Mary as an instrument is used.
I don't understand why you would say that jesus never declared himself god... Let's put it this way, he always humbled himself to his Father and not claiming anything for himself but for the greater glory of god... But In Philippians 2:10–11, we read: "[A]t the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord." This is a reference to Isaiah 45:18–24, which tells us: "I, Yahweh, speak the truth . . . I am God, and there is no other. By myself I have sworn. . . . To me every knee shall bow, every tongue confess. ‘Only in Yahweh,’ it shall be said of me, ‘are righteousness and strength.’ " Here Paul applies the prophecy of every knee bending and every tongue confessing to Jesus, resulting in the prophecy that they will "confess that Jesus Christ is Yahweh." The stress on Christ as God is also picked up by the early Church Fathers (e.g., Ignatius, below).
Jesus himself declares that he is Yahweh ("I AM," in English translation). In John 8:58, when questioned about how he has special knowledge of Abraham, Jesus replies, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM." His audience understood exactly who he was claiming to be. "So they took up stones to throw at him; but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple" (John 8:59).
With the personal name of God, Yahweh, being applied to both the Father and the Son, it is almost certainly applied to the Spirit, and thus to all three members of the Trinity.
i am not too sure what u mean about the part on purgatory.. kind to clarify? Hope it helps. -
according to the bible... we should love one another, forgive those who hurt you and shower then with more love... peace be with you... first thing Jesus told his disciples after he rose from the dead.Originally posted by dumbdumb!:i don't appreciate it, because its wrong. i give the same answer to satanist.
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hi there stupidissmart, it's been a while since you posted something here and i am sure glad you asked the questions that you did.
To answer you question in brief, yes, the word "Trinity" was not found in the Bible but its reference is. Trinity refers to The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit (which can be found in the WHOLE bible!). It is coined by early Christians only for the purpose of referencing so that we don't always have to says say "The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit". It's just as simple as that. There are a lot of other so called 'terms' which are regularly used but not found in the Bible but are used to refer to the scripture text. One classic example is Rapture. The reason is the same, the terms are used simply for refencing. go figure.Tat is why i am puzzled why mary became the mother of god when he is just mother of jesus.
I posted the same question to the Roman Catholics here in this forum but have yet to get an answer. You see, Christians don't call Mary the 'Mother of God' because thats simply blasphemy at the highest order. God choosed Mary to be the vessel to carry the Lord Jesus to this world and this tells us that Mary is the mother of Jesus and this is her most honourable title. But it just stops here.Subsequently, at the wedding of Cana, Mary noticed that the wine is running out and approached jesus to do something about it, and even though jesus said "it's not my time yet", Mary just told the servants to "do whatever he tells you to".
If you read the post of Chelle2009 about, i assume she is a lady, her reply about Mary using the marriage at Cana is really intersting because that exact context speak against the Roman Catholic act of elevating Mary to being the Mother of God or to be the intersessor.
The text is found in John 2:1-12. In verse 4 it says:
"Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come."
Why did Jesus called Mary "Woman" and not "mother" in this verse? If you think that Jesus was rebuking Mary, you are right. In verse 3, Mary was strangely expecting a miracle from Jesus. But Jesus wanted Mary to check herself for imposing a matter which is a act for Jesus and God alone, which have no dependency on her. As a man, Jesus was her son, but as God, Jesus was her Lord.
This verse is also a prophecy from Jesus about what will happen to Mary. Its a very clear warning for us that Mary tried to interceed but the Lord Jesus stopped her saying, "what have I to do with thee", This is very apparent in that Mary the mother of Jesus was never meant to be an intersessor for us. She will never be elevated like what the Roman Catholics Church had done to her. The Son of God is appointed our Advocate with the Father; but the mother of our Lord was never designed to be our advocate with the Son.
I will end here with a note about another declaration from the Roman Catholic Church about Mary as the "Queen of Heaven" because she is the Mother of God.
"The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger. Do they provoke me to anger? saith the LORD: do they not provoke themselves to the confusion of their own faces? Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, mine anger and my fury shall be poured out upon this place, upon man, and upon beast, and upon the trees of the field, and upon the fruit of the ground; and it shall burn, and shall not be quenched."
Jeremiah 7:18-20
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any roman catholics care to answer ventin's questions?
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Yeah lah, so you admitted that your tone is not proper and it is the way you like. Allow me to quote you, not from the Bible, but from a scientific truth: for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. So if you cannot express yourself correctly and gently, do not expect others to respond politely either.Originally posted by stupidissmart:Is my questions wrong ? Maybe my tone is not proper but tis is how I write in forum. I am not very friendly in my replies on the subject of homo or in politics either.
Eng Chin if u want to talk about the other religion then please do it yourself. Why do I have to follow your request and talk about other religions ? If I talk or do not talk about other religion wat has tat got to do with u ?
No, I will not talk about other religion the way you do. Let me just put it plainly that in spite of your claim to looking for rationale, you are anti-Christian. Because you ONLY target Christians and Catholics even though all religions has their fair share of controversy and irrationality. Also I think you are INCAPABLE of discussing other religion either because of your lack of knowledge in those areas or perhaps you BELONG to another irrational religion yourself.
Whatever it is, your have lost credibility because of your self-admitted prejudiced and your self-admitted improper tone in writing. Of course there are lots of nice Christians who will attempt to address your questions, so be nice and understand that there are people out there who are still very patient with you.
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Actually about the jesus and god thing I am still a bit confused...
1) There is only 1 god, it is suppose to be of the highest being
2) Jesus on many occasions say tat there is a higher being above him. He is actually terrfied he will be crucified but it had to be done because tat higher being want it to be done
3) Now it seems tat jesus himself or on several phrases as mentioned by chelle he is actually treated and he claims he is god himself... Sounds like a bible contradiction to me
I know about your analogy of the sun but my question is not whether they work for a common good but whether r they 2 different things. Is jesus god or is he someone sent by god since there can only be 1 god ?
Okie I accept the answer of trinity. It sure cut down the number of words tat need to be said. -
Haiz.... I am always sad to see the Christains questions their fellow Christains, the Catholics about their faith.... Just because we respect Mother Mary and the saints more, we are presecuted.
People are always looking at what's wrong with the other party but not what's right.
Where is the Faith, Hope and Charity that God had always wanted us to share??
Jesus, before his death had ask his disciples to take Mary as their Mother... we too are his disciples so why can't we take her as our Mother??
Have anyone heard Catholics telling protestants into their faces that their faith is wrong?? Catholics are always more tolerant... basically why are you presecuting someone who also believe in Christ... then are you not presecuting Christ himself??
Are we not taught to refrain from judging others or we shall too be judged when our days comes??
Can't we just pray as one Christain community for the good of the world?? Emphasize on the Kingdom of God and not on this worldly matters.
God forbids that we should fight among ourselves...
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Have anyone heard Catholics telling protestants into their faces that their faith is wrong??
There is no need to. To the Catholics, Protestantism is a HERESY. The damage is done.
Catholics are always more tolerant...
Nay. They just like to burn people for translating the bible.
Are we not taught to refrain from judging others or we shall too be judged when our days comes??
Actually if you analyze the whole issue with a clear mind, the Protestants are not judging the Catholics and saying they (Protestants) are right, with the same authority like a Papal Bull.