Christian Hypocrites
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After some thoughts both concerning myself and some other people, i began to see a trend of Christian hypocrisy in the world today.
People claiming to bear witness to the name of Christ and at the same time doing things contrary to the same.
Here say wanna pray for revival in their lives, when all these while living their own way. There ask God to change and transform them, while they continue to indulge themselves in blatant immorality.
A Christian is not a golden cross wearer, nor a Bible carrier(the bookshelf can do better than you), or a singer. A Christian is a follower of Christ. make sure you do that! -
agree to some of your views.. all this does not refer to all christian thanksOriginally posted by NeonTetra:After some thoughts both concerning myself and some other people, i began to see a trend of Christian hypocrisy in the world today.
People claiming to bear witness to the name of Christ and at the same time doing things contrary to the same.
Here say wanna pray for revival in their lives, when all these while living their own way. There ask God to change and transform them, while they continue to indulge themselves in blatant immorality.
A Christian is not a golden cross wearer, nor a Bible carrier(the bookshelf can do better than you), or a singer. A Christian is a follower of Christ. make sure you do that! -
what to do...everyone is human... everyone's a sinner.
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i don't think he's referring to ALLOriginally posted by ^sylvia^:agree to some of your views.. all this does not refer to all christian thanks -
i say this for me.. in order not to let others pm and scold meOriginally posted by kopiosatu:i don't think he's referring to ALL
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True..we are sinners but does that mean God cannot forgives and help us change?
we keep using that same excuse..come on we r humans, weak and fraile by nature...after all God is merciful.
I hate to hear such nonsense anymore. We must learn to have this tremendous hatred for sin that the thought of it makes us nauseous...are we able to reach that stage?
Be holy, because God is holy. No bargain. Either you are against Him, or you are totally for Him.
Stop wearing that cross and act like a fool. (an example) -
thank God its not all.Originally posted by kopiosatu:i don't think he's referring to ALL
but for me personally...a few is disgusted enough. i say this to myself too. -
I am greatly concerned over the mindset of some modern Christians. I wonder what they see God as? What is the basis of their faith? Do they focus on a charismatic speaker? Do they go after some nice looking church buildings? Do they see church as another social gathering? well..of course these are just examples....but really....when all these fanciful things are stripped off from a Christian's life...what is left? For me...I hope that when everything is removed and laid bare...I still have Jesus Christ in me. that is true Christianity....a very pleasing one infact.
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glad neon can see that. for a long time i have been getting very irritated by these people, and for awhile, i even decided that all Christians are like that. fortunately i ran into some realy cool friends who r Christians and showed me not all are so, so now i guess im pretty cool about it. to the hypos: 1 word: HELL
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some of them think they can sin all they want, then used god and sundays to clear their guilty conscience.Originally posted by NeonTetra:I am greatly concerned over the mindset of some modern Christians. I wonder what they see God as? What is the basis of their faith? Do they focus on a charismatic speaker? Do they go after some nice looking church buildings? Do they see church as another social gathering? well..of course these are just examples....but really....when all these fanciful things are stripped off from a Christian's life...what is left? For me...I hope that when everything is removed and laid bare...I still have Jesus Christ in me. that is true Christianity....a very pleasing one infact. -
The attitude that you refer to being among some modern Christians, i believe, pertain primarily to those who preach the so-called "prosperity Christianity", with much influence from the charismatic churches. Think: those that have huge 'gawdy' structures (even crosses, most in neon lighting), whose leaders have middle to upper-middle class incomes, whose community work tend to portray themselves as unique among neighbouring churches, whose members (mainly youth) tend to dress over-the-top for service, with elitism in the way they carry themselves, whose programs subtly push themselves into the limelight....Originally posted by NeonTetra:I am greatly concerned over the mindset of some modern Christians. I wonder what they see God as? What is the basis of their faith? Do they focus on a charismatic speaker? Do they go after some nice looking church buildings? Do they see church as another social gathering? well..of course these are just examples....but really....when all these fanciful things are stripped off from a Christian's life...what is left? For me...I hope that when everything is removed and laid bare...I still have Jesus Christ in me. that is true Christianity....a very pleasing one infact.
The crux of my thread, in somewhat agreement with yours, is to point out that these 'modern' Christians have forgotten how to be meek and lowly in the eyes of men, yet be mounted up with surmounting power to live victoriously as children of God in this world of sin and death. -
of course it saddens us to see these 'hypocrites'
but it's not for us to point fingers at them -
In the 20 odd years as a Christian, I have not:
1. Gone to church just to feel good.
2. Listen to a particular speaker because he is charismatic.
3. Serve just to be blessed.
4. Give to be rewarded.
In the same 20 years, I have
1. Gone to church because I want to worship.
2. Listen and discern the word of God as the wisdom God allow me to.
3. Serve because there is a need.
4. Didn't think I gave enough.
I was a sinner and continues to sin daily, sometimes out of habit, sometimes out of ignorance. I have got rid of some bad habits and working on others. Am I a hypocrite, perhaps sometimes, but have patience please, God's not through with me yet. -
sorry double posted.....
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You cant change them....I know its in our human nature to pinpoint at others...however......we are also sinners ourselves...
"Judge not, that you be not judged" Mat 7:1
Ultimately....what they do is between them and God...just continue to do your part as a christian...God is not blind....he knows who are his true followers and who are not....
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if u ask me. there's hypocricy everywhere in the christian world la. its just in different degrees. i mean. for example. if u are addicted to smoking, and a kid in church ask u is smoking wrong?
obviously you have to say smoking is wrong, cause its bad for u, as well as its a sin. does that make you a hypocrite? -
Guard your heart, for the heart is most deceitful above all things.
Remember what you guys say, do not let the words and standard which was placed be a snare that you'll be falling into.
Disclaimer - This is nothing offensive. Just warning to righteous Christians. -
“Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out demons? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me”
Matthew 7:22,23
There are many people like this, so just make sure you walk in the right direction.
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yea. i feel its not easy to just label someone as a hypocrite. what is a hypocrite?
like i said in my previous post. a smoker knows that smoking is wrong, but is unable to quit YET, but he HAS to tell someone not to get into smoking habit. does that make him a hypocrite?
and just because someone is unable to commit as much as a "good christian" can to the Lord, doesn't make him a "lousy christian" or a hypocrite? i don't know why lots of christians have this horrible mindset.
i feel whatever that goes on between a person and God, should stay between him and God.
but we're all human.. judging one another in comparison to our standard is part of that human nature i guess..
i've seen alot of rubbish people butting in and comparing my christian life and theirs, saying i should do this, i should do that.
point is, not everyone has enough faith to perform certain roles. for example. while one christian may have the faith to goto china and be a missionary, another might not have. but that "weaker christian" has the faith to do other task. does it make him lesser a christian than the other? -
You know this verse even when you are not a Christian?Originally posted by Nelstar:“Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out demons? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me”
Matthew 7:22,23
There are many people like this, so just make sure you walk in the right direction.
(Pls note: I am not a Christian, just quoting.)
I think you ought to be saved! -
a smoker knows that smoking is wrong, but is unable to quit YET, but he HAS to tell someone not to get into smoking habit. does that make him a hypocrite?
No. In this case, facts will speak for themselves. If you believe smoking is harmful, does it matter whose mouth does it come from?
and just because someone is unable to commit as much as a "good christian" can to the Lord, doesn't make him a "lousy christian" or a hypocrite?
You don't go out of point lah. It is not really about judging people.
The original scenario is thisPeople claiming to bear witness to the name of Christ and at the same time doing things contrary to the same.
Here say wanna pray for revival in their lives, when all these while living their own way. There ask God to change and transform them, while they continue to indulge themselves in blatant immorality. -
Originally posted by Icemoon:
oh i'm stating my grieviences, which seems to align to the fact that its easy for christians to judge another christian as a hypocrite.
[b]a smoker knows that smoking is wrong, but is unable to quit YET, but he HAS to tell someone not to get into smoking habit. does that make him a hypocrite?
No. In this case, facts will speak for themselves. If you believe smoking is harmful, does it matter whose mouth does it come from?
and just because someone is unable to commit as much as a "good christian" can to the Lord, doesn't make him a "lousy christian" or a hypocrite?
You don't go out of point lah. It is not really about judging people.
The original scenario is this
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if u can post in this forum, mind posting in my thread "thank you mel gibson" i'd like to hear from you regarding the catholic meeting i attended. -
I study religions.Originally posted by fandango:You know this verse even when you are not a Christian? I think you ought to be saved!
Basically, I know a bit of everything, Taoism, Hinduism... etc -
Hi, chio bu, you study comparative religion ah?Originally posted by Nelstar:I study religions. -
Originally posted by Nelstar:I study religions.
Basically, I know a bit of everything, Taoism, Hinduism... etc
Then where do you belong?