Do you believe in the 6 days of creation?
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spark from a article from sillyme...
Do you believe the 6 days of creation were literally 24 hour day? or otherwise? -
who knows?
it's a divine mystery..
knowing if it was or not, will do nothing to affect my faith actually
coz it's almost immaterial to me..
what about you? -
x2Originally posted by the Bear:who knows?
it's a divine mystery..
knowing if it was or not, will do nothing to affect my faith actually
coz it's almost immaterial to me..
what about you? -
so are we suppose to blindly accept things from the bible that seem acceptable and cast it aside if it does not affect one directly?
For me, i believe the Word to be perfect and inerrant. God means what he says. if not, anybody can also say what they believe to be true. It is just a matter of opinion. -
God reveals His mystery according to His goodness. Certain things are simply beyond human comprehension and if attempt to figure out could possibly blow your mind. Things like Trinity, though Scripture reveals but we can never fully calculate and analyse them as if we doing scientific experiments.Originally posted by ventin:so are we suppose to blindly accept things from the bible that seem acceptable and cast it aside if it does not affect one directly?
For me, i believe the Word to be perfect and inerrant. God means what he says. if not, anybody can also say what they believe to be true. It is just a matter of opinion. -
Originally posted by ventin:
which article?
[b]spark from a article from sillyme... -
Do you believe the 6 days of creation were literally 24 hour day? or otherwise?
Here's a challenge.
You want to see it from G-d's perspective?
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icemoon: u know??
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The Psalmist did state in Psalm 90-4
For a thousand years in Your sight
Are like yesterday when it passes by,
Or as a watch in the night.
Whether "a day" as stated in Genesis is meant to be taken literally or not is extremely debatable. If you are to look into the chronological order of creation you will find that it conforms to the known order of complexity of living things. Meaning, certain creatures had to exist before more complex creatures appear. Would a book written so many years ago give the order of appearance correctly without any divine intervention?
Whether God had an "accelerated growth" programme the fits into 6 human days really is immaterial. As the verse above states very clearly that God's measurement of time is not man's measurement of time. -
x2.Originally posted by Chin Eng:The Psalmist did state in Psalm 90-4
For a thousand years in Your sight
Are like yesterday when it passes by,
Or as a watch in the night.
Whether "a day" as stated in Genesis is meant to be taken literally or not is extremely debatable. If you are to look into the chronological order of creation you will find that it conforms to the known order of complexity of living things. Meaning, certain creatures had to exist before more complex creatures appear. Would a book written so many years ago give the order of appearance correctly without any divine intervention?
Whether God had an "accelerated growth" programme the fits into 6 human days really is immaterial. As the verse above states very clearly that God's measurement of time is not man's measurement of time.
We must remember that our Creator-God is not confined to time and space. He is the Maker of all things and is Himself self-existent. God has no beginning and no end. He is the First and the Last, the Alpha and the Omega.God is outside of the venn diagram is we were to put it in mathematical terms.
He does not belong to the created order and thus we cannot measure God's perspective as if God is one of us. -
I don't.Originally posted by songs:icemoon: u know??
lol
I was challenging the poster to acknowledge the possibility of another perspective, other than the human perspective. -
I believe in the 6 literal days of creation.
I believe earth is only around 6000 years old from the days of Genesis till now. -
Actually, it's true that God is all powerful and that long ages of time are but nothing to him. But if he were to create the world and everything living in 6 days, wouldn't he mean exactly 6 days? If it was otherwise, wouldn't he let us know?
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Personally, I feel that the language (literally style) of Genesis is more for conveying an idea rather than being totally literal.Originally posted by fandango:I believe in the 6 literal days of creation.
I believe earth is only around 6000 years old from the days of Genesis till now.
Take for example, the story of the Tower of Babel, Genesis 11:
3 They said to each other, "Come, let's make bricks and bake them thoroughly." They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar. 4 Then they said, "Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves and not be scattered over the face of the whole earth."
Literally meaning is that suddenly the nice folks got up and had the same idea. However this does seem to read more like a summary of a process that had taken some time to take place.
What is important is for Christians to believe that the process DID TAKE place. Whether the events in Genesis took place according to our time frame and yardstick should not even matter.
An interesting point I found out recently - apparently the Hebrew calendar is based on the cycles of the Moon while our calendar is based on the Sun. So there are different standards of measurement, while they are different, they should not matter too much. -
take the death of Christ an His resurrection after 3 days....according to our calculation..died on Friday and raised on Sunday seems like one full day difference. But according to the Hebrew way of seeing....a day is considered past when the sun sets and another new day begins..in other words...Holy Day Sabbath starts Friday evening. So Christ died on Friday, evening comes and the next dawn. so it is nothing wrong to say He will come back to life three days later.Originally posted by Chin Eng:Personally, I feel that the language (literally style) of Genesis is more for conveying an idea rather than being totally literal.
Take for example, the story of the Tower of Babel, Genesis 11:
3 They said to each other, "Come, let's make bricks and bake them thoroughly." They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar. 4 Then they said, "Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves and not be scattered over the face of the whole earth."
Literally meaning is that suddenly the nice folks got up and had the same idea. However this does seem to read more like a summary of a process that had taken some time to take place.
What is important is for Christians to believe that the process DID TAKE place. Whether the events in Genesis took place according to our time frame and yardstick should not even matter.
An interesting point I found out recently - apparently the Hebrew calendar is based on the cycles of the Moon while our calendar is based on the Sun. So there are different standards of measurement, while they are different, they should not matter too much. -
I believe earth is only around 6000 years old from the days of Genesis till now.
An insight can be gained from Jewish tradition.
The Jewish holiday of Rosh Hashanah, actually their New Year, celebrates the creation if the world. What is this creation, you may ask? This creation refers to the creation of Adam and not the creation of the heaven and the earth. In other words, the Jewish calendar starts from the creation of Adam.
But if he were to create the world and everything living in 6 days, wouldn't he mean exactly 6 days? If it was otherwise, wouldn't he let us know?
That time is relative, matter and energy are interchangeable, the secret is unlocked in our age. Guess who unlocked it? A Jew called ... Albert Einstein.
That different people perceive time differently is vividly illustrated in the famous Twin Paradox. The effect is proven, using atomic clocks in planes.
a day is considered past when the sun sets and another new day begins.
The famous "erev and boker" phrase in Genesis. - "Vayehi erev vayehi boker yom echad"! -
Well, at the end of the day, I don't think any of us are really keen to be caught on the wrong side of God and then say to Him: "I'm sorry I didn't believe in you because me with my pea brain could not figure out how you created the universe as it is."
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if the bible states literally 6 days, why issit that we have to allegorise it?
just wondering...
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People dont accept it coz they are thinking logically. And they(ourselves?) try to enter God's mind.
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Well, if we read Genesis 11 on the account of the Tower of Babel, verse 3: They said to each other, "Come, let's make bricks and bake them thoroughly." they used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar, Then they said, "Come let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves and not be scattered over the race of the whole earth."Originally posted by ventin:if the bible states literally 6 days, why issit that we have to allegorise it?
just wondering...
It is rather inconceivable to think that men woke up one morning and had a technological jump in suddenly knowing how to bake bricks and reached an immediate decision to build the tower of Babel. This passage probably summarised an entire long-drawn process of technological advancement in jumping from stone-age to clay making. Once that is done, men still had to figure out the building process and the mathematics this process involve.
Point is, Genesis was not written in the styles of, say, the Epistles where literal meaning can be taken. -
hmm......that would be very very interesting since there have been carbon dating to a couple of million years.....Originally posted by fandango:I believe in the 6 literal days of creation.
I believe earth is only around 6000 years old from the days of Genesis till now. heck even got carbon dating till 10,000 years....so i highly doubt the earth is a mere 6,000 years -
He will tell you there's something wrong with carbon dating or we interpret findings wrongly.
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Carbon dating is only accurate to about 8000-10000 years at most.