Which is the first day of the week?
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Sunday or Monday?
i am seeking a biblical answer of course -
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then how come i see topic weeking beginning 5th April?
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i can see legalism at work.Originally posted by ventin:then how come i see topic weeking beginning 5th April? -
oh you mean our weekly thread?
well, it's when we start work mah..
sundays usually few people will come in..
so on monday, someone will start that thread to kick off chatting, usually putting monday's date..
anyway, the background to this weekly thread.. started off by blurgirl (if i remember rightly) in another forum.. then we moved from forum to forum..
somehow the weekly thread stayed on in EH.. -
my pri sch teacher say is "sunday"
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then if the calendar we happen to get have Mondays as first column..does it mean we must discard that calendar? I am impressed with ur curiosity and welcome u to post but one thing i have learnt through my years as a Christian is that so often people argue and dispute over tiny issues and forget the big picture. The Bible's main theme is about Jesus Christ and not days and hours.Originally posted by ventin:then how come i see topic weeking beginning 5th April? -
Hi,
could i ask a question. What is theology? Is it from the bible?
cheers,
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Theology is like any other discipline, where theologians put forward their 'theories' to explain what they understand from Scripture.
I won't say theology is from the bible. I mean, if it is so obvious, then there won't be so many different denominations today supporting their own theology yea? -
hi icemoon,
thanks a lot. But can you explain to me; 1) how did the various denominations come about? 2) What are the differences of lets say a Methodist with an Anglican?
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Well, I suppose others here may refer you to a link to answer your question, but here's my take. May be inaccurate. Hope others can correct me.
1. In the beginning there's only one church, the Catholic Church. You can say it started with the chief apostle Peter since he was the first Pope (Bishop of Rome). Ok, this one is a bit legendary, I must admit, since whether Peter went to Rome is still a mystery. This is the church who convened the important Councils (Chalcedon, Nicea etc.) and gave us the most fundamental doctrines of God. Fast forward to the turn of the first millenium. The Great Schism! The Catholic Church split into two, the Eastern and Western. The Eastern, without much changes, becomes the Eastern Orthodox Church we find today. The Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox all belong to this umbrella. This is 1 of the 3 major denominations. The Western is the Catholic Church, which is based in Europe. This is another of the 3 major denominations. Fast forward 1/2 millenium. The Reformation! Protestantism was born. Started by Luther with his famous 95 theses, but expanded upon by Calvin and Zwingli(sp?). This is the last major denomination.
2. Methodist and Anglican are both protestant in nature. Methodist was started by famous pracher and hymn writer [John?] Wesley around the 18 or 19 century. In contrast, the Reformation happened around the 15-16 century. Anglican, if you pardon me, is more of like a bastardized version of protestant and catholic. There is a noticeable hierarchy like the catholic, with the monarch of England as the head and all the fanciful titles like bishops and archbishop.
Well, this is roughly what I remember without referring to any source. Hope this is an appetizer for you, to find out more about the history of the religion.
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Since you mentioned Methodist, here's something interesting.
Remember I told you the founder was a man called Wesley? Now what does this name remind you of?
You read the chinese novelist Ni2 Kuang4's books? One of his most famous character is a guy in a scientific thriller called Wei4 Si1 Li3, who has a girlfriend called Bai2 Su4.
Coincidentally, our Methodist founder here is referred to as Wei4 Si1 Li3 in chinese. The exact same wording.
I'm sure many people don't know what is Methodist called in chinese. No, don't bother translating Me-tho-dist into chinese syllabus. The correct translation is Wei4 Li3, just remove the middle word.
Sadly today, traces of the founder's name is removed but in the chinese translation.
PS: Well, I suppose those students of Methodist schools, like Fairfield Methodist, will know the translation. Heehee -
The Anglican CommunionOriginally posted by Icemoon:Well, I suppose others here may refer you to a link to answer your question, but here's my take. May be inaccurate. Hope others can correct me.
1. In the beginning there's only one church, the Catholic Church. You can say it started with the chief apostle Peter since he was the first Pope (Bishop of Rome). Ok, this one is a bit legendary, I must admit, since whether Peter went to Rome is still a mystery. This is the church who convened the important Councils (Chalcedon, Nicea etc.) and gave us the most fundamental doctrines of God. Fast forward to the turn of the first millenium. The Great Schism! The Catholic Church split into two, the Eastern and Western. The Eastern, without much changes, becomes the Eastern Orthodox Church we find today. The Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox all belong to this umbrella. This is 1 of the 3 major denominations. The Western is the Catholic Church, which is based in Europe. This is another of the 3 major denominations. Fast forward 1/2 millenium. The Reformation! Protestantism was born. Started by Luther with his famous 95 theses, but expanded upon by Calvin and Zwingli(sp?). This is the last major denomination.
2. Methodist and Anglican are both protestant in nature. Methodist was started by famous pracher and hymn writer [John?] Wesley around the 18 or 19 century. In contrast, the Reformation happened around the 15-16 century. Anglican, if you pardon me, is more of like a bastardized version of protestant and catholic. There is a noticeable hierarchy like the catholic, with the monarch of England as the head and all the fanciful titles like bishops and archbishop.
Well, this is roughly what I remember without referring to any source. Hope this is an appetizer for you, to find out more about the history of the religion.
The Anglican Communion is the worldwide fellowship of churches owing their origins to the Church of England. This is a fellowship within one, holy, catholic and apostolic church, of those diocese, provinces or regional churches in communion with the See of Canterbury.
* The Anglican Communion is wide-ranging, doctrinally as well as geographically, but yet there are certain beliefs which unite Anglicans. The Lambeth Quadrilateral, set out at the Lambeth Conference in 1888, defines these as:
* The Holy Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments as "containing all things necessary to salvation," and as being the rule and ultimate standard of faith.
* The Apostles' Creed as the Baptismal Symbol, and the Nicene Creed as the sufficient statement of the Christian faith.
* The two sacraments ordained by Christ himself - Baptism and Holy Communion - ministered with unfailing use of Christ's words of institution and of the elements ordained by him.
* The Historic Episcopate, locally adapted in the methods of its administration to the varying needs of the nations and peoples called of God into the Unity of his Church.
Churches within this Communion are influenced by the Church of England in many ways, such as in matters of faith (39 Articles of Religion), church government (Episcopal), worship and liturgy (Book of Common Prayer), church laws (Canons of the Church of England) and church ordinances (Sacraments and Sacramental Ministries).
The 39 Articles of Religion
As part of the universal Church of Christ, inheriting the faith of the early Church, the Anglican Church does not subscribe to doctrines different from that of the universal Church. However, the Anglican Church possesses certain distinctives in the way it received the Christian faith and tradition, and these are captured in the 39 Articles of Religion.
Canon A5, Canons of Church of England: "The doctrine of the Church of England is grounded in the Holy Scriptures, and in such teachings of the ancient Fathers and Councils of the Church as are agreeable to the said Scriptures. In particular such doctrines are to be found in the 39 Articles of Religion, the Book of Common Prayer, and the Ordinal."
These Articles of Religion together with the Creeds, Catechism, Litany, Church Calendar, Lectionary, and Psalter, were translated and compiled by Thomas Granmer in 1549, into the Book of Common Prayer which was authorised in 1662.
(Source: http://www.livingstreams.org.sg/sac/info/beliefs/anglican.html) -
wow,
thanks! Real educational, appreciate it.
cheers -
welcomedOriginally posted by warrior_84:wow,
thanks! Real educational, appreciate it.
cheers -
erm Sabbath = Sunday?
"After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb."
how can it be? i mean its AFTER the Sabbath. that means AFTER Sunday?
first day of the week is monday?
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Sabbath is Saturday. The Jews today still observe Sabbath on Saturday. It has always been on Saturday.
Observing the Sabbath is one of the 10 commandments, mind you. No joking matter. -
During the reformation, the church is spilt into Catholic & Protestants. There are a lot of differences between Catholic & Protestants teaching, so can I assume that the Protestants doctrine is a little bit incorrect.....since u mention the Catholic Church is the first church & started by the apostle Peter(I assume that they are following the correct teaching)?Originally posted by Icemoon:Well, I suppose others here may refer you to a link to answer your question, but here's my take. May be inaccurate. Hope others can correct me.
1. In the beginning there's only one church, the Catholic Church. You can say it started with the chief apostle Peter since he was the first Pope (Bishop of Rome). Ok, this one is a bit legendary, I must admit, since whether Peter went to Rome is still a mystery. This is the church who convened the important Councils (Chalcedon, Nicea etc.) and gave us the most fundamental doctrines of God. Fast forward to the turn of the first millenium. The Great Schism! The Catholic Church split into two, the Eastern and Western. The Eastern, without much changes, becomes the Eastern Orthodox Church we find today. The Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox all belong to this umbrella. This is 1 of the 3 major denominations. The Western is the Catholic Church, which is based in Europe. This is another of the 3 major denominations. Fast forward 1/2 millenium. The Reformation! Protestantism was born. Started by Luther with his famous 95 theses, but expanded upon by Calvin and Zwingli(sp?). This is the last major denomination.
pls help me to understand -
Well, you shouldn't ignore the possibility of an errant Vatican, since the pope and his cardinals are not perfect!
This is a hotly contentious issue. Protestants and Catholics, seasoned ones, can debate all day who is more correct. So I shall not go into that.
I suppose it is important to accumulate a fair amount of Scriptural knowledge before one starts to evaluate who is "right" and who is "wrong". -
Er.. can i say tat the first day of the week is the day that i was borned?