Would you die for your religion (ie be a martyr)?
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Originally posted by Aneslayer:
A false accusation of logical fallacy is always a fallacy.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Question begging again.Ok... that's 3 false accusations... with no meaningful implications.../thread.
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Originally posted by Aneslayer:
Ok... that's 3 false accusations... with no meaningful implications.../thread.
Question begging still. And still not telling us whether scapegoat fallacy is necessarily emotional or must contain such language. Why? -
Actually come to think of it, terrorists die for the same reasons too.
They think their "god" tells them to and they know their loved ones are at home. Bu tthey rather obey their god and not care about their families. To them, thats a greater cause - dying for god and beliefs
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
Actually come to think of it, terrorists die for the same reasons too.
They think their "god" tells them to and they know their loved ones are at home. Bu tthey rather obey their god and not care about their families. To them, thats a greater cause - dying for god and beliefs
So you are saying that terrorists are no different from martyrs? Then you are sorely mistaken.
Terrorists demand that others die for their beliefs.
Martyrs are those who choose to die for their beliefs.
Again I will speak from the Bible, no where in the NT do we have any example of a believer who acted like a terrorist. The people who complained about the Christians were NOT complaining that Christians were killing people or blowing others up at marketplaces. Rather they were complaining that the Christians were preaching that Jesus Christ was killed and raised from the dead according to the Scriptures and that He would come again to judge the world. If anything it were the Christians who were the ones being terrorised for their beliefs!
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
So you are saying that terrorists are no different from martyrs? Then you are sorely mistaken.
Terrorists demand that others die for their beliefs.
Martyrs are those who choose to die for their beliefs.
Again I will speak from the Bible, no where in the NT do we have any example of a believer who acted like a terrorist. The people who complained about the Christians were NOT complaining that Christians were killing people or blowing others up at marketplaces. Rather they were complaining that the Christians were preaching that Jesus Christ was killed and raised from the dead according to the Scriptures and that He would come again to judge the world.
BIC
I am referring to the thought process of both a terrorist and a martyr ,that both die for a "higher" cause.
In the bible? How about those believers in the OT destroying children?
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
BIC
I am referring to the thought process of both a terrorist and a martyr ,that both die for a "higher" cause.
In the bible? How about those believers in the OT destroying children?
The thought process are also different. You should not be superficial in your treatment of such things as it can be very misleading and distorting of the truth.
How about you deal with my point about the NT before we talk about the OT? Why you ignore that?
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
Actually come to think of it, terrorists die for the same reasons too.
They think their "god" tells them to and they know their loved ones are at home. Bu tthey rather obey their god and not care about their families. To them, thats a greater cause - dying for god and beliefs
they are being deluded and misled, thinking they will go to heaven when they carried out matryl deed in the afterlife. how wrong and erroneous this kind of belief system tended to be.
if these people were to go to heaven when they die, you think the heaven will be peaceful everafter?
secondly what kind of religion is that? asking devotees to carry out such heinous acts? this is no religion, but cult, make no mistake about it.
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Ok let's share a story,
A man fell into a shallow river off the cliff, there was little way he could get up and the river was flooding soon. Just then, at the side of the cliff was a man with a rope to get up the cliff and asked the man, 'do you need my help?' He replied, 'I have faith in God and God will save me.' So the man ignored him and left. After a while, the water rose from his knee length to his waist length. A fisherman, paddling on the boat, passed by and saw him. He asked the same question, but the man replied that he has faith in God and God will save him. So the fisherman left. Sometime later, the water was at the height of his neck and he was still standing there. Just then, a helicopter passing by, the pilot saw him and quickly threw a rope, the water was gushing and rising by the seconds. The pilot shouted, 'QUICK, GET THE ROPE!' But he replied the same, he did not grab the rope. Soon, the water swallowed him and he was drowned. He saw God and he asked God,' why have you not saved me? I have faith.' God replied, ' you have declined my help, I have sent three people to help you but you choose not to help.'
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your honor....my client...will like to plead guilty
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Is religion more important than bread and butter issues?
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you wouldn't know how disillusion people can be, be it rich or poor.
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Originally posted by SJS6638:
Is religion more important than bread and butter issues?
I see this as a false dichotomy. Life is not just about survival. Religion is part of the beliefs, albeit a big part, that each of us have. Many people in history have chosen to sacrifice bread and butter issues for beliefs, whether religious or not. And their sacrifices made this world a better place.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
I see this as a false dichotomy. Life is not just about survival. Religion is part of the beliefs, albeit a big part, that each of us have. Many people in history have chosen to sacrifice bread and butter issues for beliefs, whether religious or not. And their sacrifices made this world a better place.
BIC,
Believing in the Gods is not a big part of my life and not a big part in manny people's lives.
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Religions are not compulsory in life.
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we see who are the siao lang here really. really siao arh i see.
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people! make love! not war...
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Originally posted by Mariana:
people! make love! not war...
People make love govt happy, more babies to solve the low in fertility problem.
Love, you think all christians have in their intention to practise love, think again. SSSSsss!
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Originally posted by troublemaker2005:
we see who are the siao lang here really. really siao arh i see.
who?