Questions For Christians
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Originally posted by laurence82:
he is worse than girls, he ishaha
They all the same, include the other two Badzmaro and sgdiehard.
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Originally posted by DailyFreeGames.com:
Their website loads super slow, the search function not working properly, just searching for 1 question only like for question 3 about how do they know the Bible wasn't written by the Satan since he's really good at deceiving reveals no answers, and you tell me all the answers to my questions can be found there... Are you helping Satan to deceive me?
Your computer slow lah. The website loads well for my computer. Nothing to refute so just complain about slow speed? That's really lame. Yes satan is a deceiver, so you think satan would write a book that has been the source of influence on society to bring many to God? A kingdom divided against itself will fall, as taught by Jesus. -
And once again, mr bic clearly avoids whatever other forumers said esp in end part of 1st page....
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
That's the problem. You trivialise sin. You have no idea what holiness means and the nature of God.Sure. How serious are the sins of the babies and children in Amalek, I wonder?
How serious are the sins of the Egyptian new borns?
Please dont justify killing because of sins. You sound like the crusaders.
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what is a sin?
if humans can forgive people for the evil committed to them, so god is unable or unwilling to forgive? afterall xtians claimed god created everything, so god is doing a lousy job that the world it created is so unperfect.
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
Sure. How serious are the sins of the babies and children in Amalek, I wonder?
How serious are the sins of the Egyptian new borns?
Please dont justify killing because of sins. You sound like the crusaders.
as some forummer said, god is a blood thirsty spirit. does the bible said about guys testicles? I LOL when I read this, why would god want to care about guys testicles lol. this is really absurd to the max.
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
Sure. How serious are the sins of the babies and children in Amalek, I wonder?
How serious are the sins of the Egyptian new borns?
Please dont justify killing because of sins. You sound like the crusaders.
You are not God, which is why you are not in the position to judge. Do you know the future? Well, God does. In any case why are you so upset? For you the Bible is fairy tale and none of it happened anyway. It's all made up as far as you are concerned ya? -
Originally posted by Jacky Woo:
what is a sin?
if humans can forgive people for the evil committed to them, so god is unable or unwilling to forgive? afterall xtians claimed god created everything, so god is doing a lousy job that the world it created is so unperfect.
Oh so now you think you are better than God because you are more forgiving? Yet when God allows the repentant criminal into heaven you fault God for being so forgiving whereas you don't think such should be forgiven? Why is the world so imperfect? Well, just take a good hard look at yourself. It is sin that caused the world to be fallen. -
Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Oh so now you think you are better than God because you are more forgiving? Yet when God allows the repentant criminal into heaven you fault God for being so forgiving whereas you don't think such should be forgiven? Why is the world so imperfect? Well, just take a good hard look at yourself. It is sin that caused the world to be fallen.You misunderstood Jacky.
He is just wondering how come humans can be more forgiving than an allloving, allpowerful Deity.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
You are not God, which is why you are not in the position to judge. Do you know the future? Well, God does. In any case why are you so upset? For you the Bible is fairy tale and none of it happened anyway. It's all made up as far as you are concerned ya?If being god means it blinds my sense of morality not to harm babies and children, then i rather not be this "god".
Its basic decency not to harm babies and children in wars.
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
You misunderstood Jacky.
He is just wondering how come humans can be more forgiving than an allloving, allpowerful Deity.
And you missed my pointing out his inconsistency. Suddenly he is not so forgiving when it comes to repentant criminals. -
Originally posted by BroInChrist:
And you missed my pointing out his inconsistency. Suddenly he is not so forgiving when it comes to repentant criminals.When he allows a christian "repented" murderer into heaven and "allows/sends" an atheist/buddhist/hindu who committed no crime to hell, that is not forgiving, excuse me. That is a bit funny....
I mean that is if you believe that all nonchristians will not get saved
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
If being god means it blinds my sense of morality not to harm babies and children, then i rather not be this "god".
Its basic decency not to harm babies and children in wars.
Tcmc,
So you brag about your sense of morality. Tell me, to whom do you owe this sense of morality? What and who is your standard of morality? In the atheist's survival-of-the-fittest worldview, what determines right from wrong? If you cannot even justify your own moral stance, then you have no business trying to judge God's actions or the moral actions of another.
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
When he allows a christian "repented" murderer into heaven and "allows/sends" an atheist/buddhist/hindu who committed no crime to hell, that is not forgiving, excuse me. That is a bit funny....
I mean that is if you believe that all nonchristians will not get saved
Tcmc,
Again you show no knowledge of basic Christian doctrine, yet still claim to be some Bible study "expert"? What does the Bible teach about sinners? Non-Christians will get saved when they repent and call upon the Name of Christ. Non-Christians like you do not want to be saved. Do you wish to be compelled against your will to be saved?
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Tcmc,
So you brag about your sense of morality. Tell me, to whom do you owe this sense of morality? What and who is your standard of morality? In the atheist's survival-of-the-fittest worldview, what determines right from wrong? If you cannot even justify your own moral stance, then you have no business trying to judge God's actions or the moral actions of another.
I dont brag about my sense of morality.
You mean not killing babies in war is boasting morality? I thought its a basic decent act to protect the defenseless in wars. Please answer me. Dont you think its basic decency to protect babies in wars and not seek them out in cold blood?
This is when your creationist warped mindset kicks in - "atheist's survival-of-the-fittest worldview". So are you also going to assume because we believe humans are mammals, we also behave like animals?
Morals has always been there to help the human race survice and to protect the human race. Its an instinct to be "moral" just like how a young wildebesst would protect her calf from predators.
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
I dont brag about my sense of morality.
You mean not killing babies in war is boasting morality? I thought its a basic decent act to protect the defenseless in wars. Please answer me. Dont you think its basic decency to protect babies in wars and not seek them out in cold blood?
This is when your creationist warped mindset kicks in - "atheist's survival-of-the-fittest worldview". So are you also going to assume because we believe humans are mammals, we also behave like animals?
Morals has always been there to help the human race survice and to protect the human race. Its an instinct to be "moral" just like how a young wildebesst would protect her calf from predators.
Tcmc,
You missed the point. I am asking you, justify your moral stance. You have no rational basis to simply assume the existence of some objective moral code or standard. You have no rational basis to say that morals has always been there. Since when? When there was no life to speak of? When did those "always been there" morals come into existence? When you think the sun was formed? At the big bang? When? I believe you can supply NO answers to my questions. Again, defend your sense of morality if you can. Otherwise don't find fault with my house when you do not even have a roof over your head.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Tcmc,
You missed the point. I am asking you, justify your moral stance. You have no rational basis to simply assume the existence of some objective moral code or standard. You have no rational basis to say that morals has always been there. Since when? When there was no life to speak of? When did those "always been there" morals come into existence? When you think the sun was formed? At the big bang? When? I believe you can supply NO answers to my questions. Again, defend your sense of morality if you can. Otherwise don't find fault with my house when you do not even have a roof over your head.
Lol. You seem to have a big problem with not knowing.
That is why you are a christian, where the answers are "seemingly" found conveniently in an ancient book. You need answers to everything to feed your ego. THat is why you can never be scientific. You need quick and easy answers.
You need answers to everything. Not everyone is like you.
If in fact we do not know, we say we do not know. We do not quote some dubious sources and say "There I got the answer!"
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Originally posted by Tcmc:
Lol. You seem to have a big problem with not knowing.
That is why you are a christian, where the answers are "seemingly" found conveniently in an ancient book. You need answers to everything to feed your ego. THat is why you can never be scientific. You need quick and easy answers.
You need answers to everything. Not everyone is like you.
If in fact we do not know, we say we do not know. We do not quote some dubious sources and say "There I got the answer!"
Tcmc,
See the problem you have? People got answers from the Bible you say it is egoistic, a classic ad hominem argument. Let me have my confidence in the Word of God whereas you take confidence in your own ignorance OK? I can never be scientific? Again another ad hominem argument. Of course you convenient forget that it is hardly scientific to say that we evolved from pond scum since that cannot neither be tested or repeated in a lab.
Why do you have a problem with me needing answers when you are here engaging in elephant hurling and demanding answers from the Christian for every question? And when Christians say we do not know you scoff at the answer that says "God works in ways we do not know" or that "the secret things belong to God." You are just operating on double-standards here. The problem with you is not just that you claim not to know, but that you claim to know that it cannot be God.
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Oh so now you think you are better than God because you are more forgiving? Yet when God allows the repentant criminal into heaven you fault God for being so forgiving whereas you don't think such should be forgiven? Why is the world so imperfect? Well, just take a good hard look at yourself. It is sin that caused the world to be fallen.I am glad you brought up this. from your reply, there are so much paradoxes.
so if god is so forgiving to those who accepted Jesus even though they are criminals and murderers, they are accepted into heaven, compared to those who are not believers, who are kind and helpful, but they are condemned to hell for eternity? hello wakey wakey, is your brain working? if u dunno what is wrong with this, I suggest you go to IMH for a checkout. what a warped explanation is this.
as for killing, god can send a flood to kill people indiscriminately, but are you sure all those people are bad and immoral? in that case, why not destroy the world, since you are adamanant it is sin for the world to be fallen? second is, isnt this god's fault for sin to be fallen, since his creations are not perfect. oh so god is unwilling to or unable to create a perfect world free from sins in the first place since god is all powerful?
anyway this is your reply, not god. god is silent to all these paradoxes. you are not god, so you are in no position to answer on god's behalf. are you omniscient like god?
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this is but just 1 of the many paradoxes and warped explanations. I have said this many times and I am going to say it again. even a 3 year old kid mentality wouldnt have believed this, so I cant understand an adult intellect and mentality can believed all these incredible tales and explanations that borders beyond incoherence and illogic.
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Originally posted by Jacky Woo:
I am glad you brought up this. from your reply, there are so much paradoxes.
so if god is so forgiving to those who accepted Jesus even though they are criminals and murderers, they are accepted into heaven, compared to those who are not believers, who are kind and helpful, but they are condemned to hell for eternity? hello wakey wakey, is your brain working? if u dunno what is wrong with this, I suggest you go to IMH for a checkout. what a warped explanation is this.
as for killing, god can send a flood to kill people indiscriminately, but are you sure all those people are bad and immoral? in that case, why not destroy the world, since you are adamanant it is sin for the world to be fallen? second is, isnt this god's fault for sin to be fallen, since his creations are not perfect. oh so god is unwilling to or unable to create a perfect world free from sins in the first place since god is all powerful?
anyway this is your reply, not god. god is silent to all these paradoxes. you are not god, so you are in no position to answer on god's behalf. are you omniscient like god?
Jacky Woo,
1. Define your source of morality for starts. Heaven's entry requirements is determined by God, or you? God has every right to set the conditions for entry into heaven. God demands 100% holiness in all aspects of our lives. Those nice people you have in mind, you know the evil they think in thoughts and the inclinations in their hearts? My brain is working fine, thank you.
2. You said God sent a flood to kill indiscriminately. You failed to read the Bible. God said the flood was sent to kill off mankind (except those 8 on the Ark) because of the wickedness of their ways. Again you are not God who is omniscient and can judge the ways of man. The creation God made was perfect, it was later corrupted by man's sin. So please don't blame God. So there WAS a perfect creation, IS now corrupted, but WILL BE restored to perfection again.
3. Yes it is my reply, founded on the Bible. But since you know not the Bible it is understandable that you will think it is all my own thinking. You do not have the tools to evaluate the Biblical basis of my answers. That's just too bad. I can't help you on that.
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Originally posted by Jacky Woo:
this is but just 1 of the many paradoxes and warped explanations. I have said this many times and I am going to say it again. even a 3 year old kid mentality wouldnt have believed this, so I cant understand an adult intellect and mentality can believed all these incredible tales and explanations that borders beyond incoherence and illogic.
How many 3 year olds have you met in your life that can tell you clearly what they believed, and which is not a result of "indoctrination" by parents or some other persons?
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Jacky Woo,
1. Define your source of morality for starts. Heaven's entry requirements is determined by God, or you? God has every right to set the conditions for entry into heaven. God demands 100% holiness in all aspects of our lives. Those nice people you have in mind, you know the evil they think in thoughts and the inclinations in their hearts? My brain is working fine, thank you.
2. You said God sent a flood to kill indiscriminately. You failed to read the Bible. God said the flood was sent to kill off mankind (except those 8 on the Ark) because of the wickedness of their ways. Again you are not God who is omniscient and can judge the ways of man. The creation God made was perfect, it was later corrupted by man's sin. So please don't blame God. So there WAS a perfect creation, IS now corrupted, but WILL BE restored to perfection again.
3. Yes it is my reply, founded on the Bible. But since you know not the Bible it is understandable that you will think it is all my own thinking. You do not have the tools to evaluate the Biblical basis of my answers. That's just too bad. I can't help you on that.
God has every right to set the conditions for entry into heaven.
like fifi in Sgf?
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Originally posted by Clivebenss:
God has every right to set the conditions for entry into heaven.
like fifi in Sgf?
Hi there,
Do you find anything wrong with the statement that God sets the conditions for entry into heaven?
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Originally posted by BroInChrist:
Hi there,
Do you find anything wrong with the statement that God sets the conditions for entry into heaven?
I find heaven is like Sgf.