why not ask God why he created cancer in the 1st place...................
what about the millions of cancer patients that die every year ?????
stop blindly believing in your own wishful thinking already.................
to Toogood:
he may say things like this:
1) u composed all that urself
2) he didnt witnessed it so he dont believe
3) those ppl were bribed/disillusioned to believe they were truly healed
God created cancer??? may i ask if cancer cells existed 1st or good cells existed 1st? wad are cancer cells? they are good cells that mutated in cancerous ones...so they were originally good cells...i am no science guru but this i know...
go read up the story of the Buddha and the Brahma..................
the so-called god is just a man-made creation
the story of buddha and brahma were written by mere humans as well...
Originally posted by As romanista2001:
go read up the story of the Buddha and the Brahma..................
the so-called god is just a man-made creation
hi asro.. you seem to take a delight in BASHING belivers of Christ.. hor!! Yes.. i rather be a fool to believe in the existence of God and Heaven.and of course.. Jesus. . even to the point of YOU calling me "idiot, fool or whatever. Period.
I know where you come from.. so can't blame you for it.. However, the point is heaven exist even though you cannot or maynot or even not see it.. For us catholics and christians.. heaven is where we destine to after this eartlhly life.. Life on earth is a "temporary" lodging only.. or as we just a pilgrim on earth..
FYI.. Christianity (include cathiolicism) is not just a religion.. it is a revelation.. you may say "what revelation.. it's just a man made creation ..as normally you use in your reply. Revelation means in christology .. God reveal Himself thru the person of Jesus Christ to mankind. In layman speak.. there's is a divine presence looking or guiding after us both here and afterlife. That's Truth.. Religion in lay man speak.. just mere rules and regulations to follow for its disciples.. just that..
this is just a simple explanation.. if you are in exchange for views on religion, i welcome it but without resorting to name calling.. or vulgarities.. simple polite and respectful views welcome.
cheers
catholic
is tat possible? u only have 3 posts...they will start dismissing u as a troll...but if u are in support of their views, then they wun dismiss uas a troll...
Originally posted by despondent:is tat possible? u only have 3 posts...they will start dismissing u as a troll...but if u are in support of their views, then they wun dismiss uas a troll...
why not.. we are here to dimiss the notion that heaven, jesus do not exist or mere supersitition.. tell that to 1.3 billion catholics? and another few millions christians and another few million believers of heaven without any deno or religious affliations.. see what they say..
reason.. faith is certain of something that is to be expected and cannot be explained in factuals or realties otherwise it is not faith..
God is above evryrthing including science so in other words it's all a different level.. so in effect science cannot explain God's existence but can point or guide to it.. read the pope benedict explanations on it on "interview with pope benedict" or something like that.. recent book..
Rmemeber human beings are spiritual beings .. not just make up of flesh and blood.. but also with compassion.. feelings and best part they are make in the image of God..
cheers
catholic
Originally posted by Singaporecatholic:
why not.. we are here to dimiss the notion that heaven, jesus do not exist or mere supersitition.. tell that to 1.3 billion catholics? and another few millions christians and another few million believers of heaven without any deno or religious affliations.. see what they say..reason.. faith is certain of something that is to be expected and cannot be explained in factuals or realties otherwise it is not faith..
God is above evryrthing including science so in other words it's all a different level.. so in effect science cannot explain God's existence but can point or guide to it.. read the pope benedict explanations on it on "interview with pope benedict" or something like that.. recent book..
Rmemeber human beings are spiritual beings .. not just make up of flesh and blood.. but also with compassion.. feelings and best part they are make in the image of God..
cheers
catholic
so many people believe and it's true ?
do i need to remind you that MOST of the people once believed the earth was round..................
Originally posted by despondent:the story of buddha and brahma were written by mere humans as well...
it's the reasoning behind the story that's important...............
say.............Harry Potter vs Sherlock holmes...............which story is more ''realistic'' ?
well, to christians the story depicted by the bible is more ''realistic''...u have a problem wif tat?
no problems at all..................
i'm just pointing out to people that they've been had................
just like those victims of Bernie Madoff .....................they all thought the boss was the God of Fortune.......................
Well aside from what God had planned for us, the humans are the ones behind all these sufferings e.g., landslides, floods, and some others. Mother Nature is asking us to pay for all that we've done to her. Sad to say but I guess we all made our share in our world's sufferings.
i believe the question is more of why does God if hes so loving, allows so much suffering..
firstly, we need to see whats the source of all these suffering..death is a kind of suffering..death is the result of sin.sin is therefore now the source of many kinds of suffering.
illnesses,deformities,handicapps,low iq..etc..all these are because of inherited sin.when our body is no longer at their best optimal performance, we get all sorts of funny things happening to us..it makes us sick, deformed, grow old and die..makes us at most having the intelligence of einstein when we could be so much more.
current world events are mostly caused by human politics..driven by immorality,violence and occult.
current physical earth events like earthquakes,tsunami all points to the fulfilment of the signs in revelations and other books that speak about how the end will be like.
who brought about all these suffering?the first woman had allowed her vanity to let the serpent deceived her..the sepent was used by satan the father of lies.suffering stems from satan and the demons..
how to not suffer?the bible says it is God that creates us, gave us laws to live by that are wholesome and not a burden to carry out. live by it and we will see the results eventually.
lets say a person suffers from cancer and needs to go through treatments, even surgery..all these treatments are painful, but are they the true cause of suffering or is it the cancer cells?
now, if the patient patienly follows thru the whole treatment and is cured..is he still suffering or is he now relived of those suffering??are we gonna endure the treatments??
then they will ask since God knew adam and eve would sin, why createthem in the 1st place and why create man since we will suffer on earth? the reply would then be its cos of freewill and the wrestling btw freewill and no freewill will begin again...
Originally posted by As romanista2001:
why not ask God why he created cancer in the 1st place...................
what about the millions of cancer patients that die every year ?????
stop blindly believing in your own wishful thinking already.................
God didnt create cancer silly..it was the human DNA that cock up after they sin..
does God know satan will revolt when he created him??if yes, then why go thru all the trouble to create the whole saga?
obviously, the ability to know the future is an ability that can be toggled on and off..
when God finds that satan and friends and adam and eve had betrayed him..he is hurt and disappointed like how a parent will feel when their children lied to them...
he didnt go lol i already knew this shit will happen..lol...
if knowing the future is always turned on..does it not make fate and predestination true?does it not make freewill redundant?what does God says about predestination and fate?
so u are saying that God didnt noe tat adam, eve and satan would end up sinning against Him? thats definitely not sth christians here would agree wif...
Originally posted by despondent:so u are saying that God didnt noe tat adam, eve and satan would end up sinning against Him? thats definitely not sth christians here would agree wif...
im saying..he chose not to know in advance.
think about it this way..say, God knows satan,the angels, adam and eve will all sin against him eventually..what was the point in creating them??knowing he will bring so much pain and destruction to billions of innocent people..or, why dont he create them so that they will never be corrupted by pride and vanity?
or God knows they will revolt..but yet created them then hoping they wont revolt when he knows for sure they will..doesnt that make God silly and stupid??do not forget God have unlimitted wisdom and intelligence..
God isnt as limitless as what people think..for example.. he limits himself to rules that make up his personality..love, justice , righteousness..he could be like a dictator that creates unfeeling robot..but he didnt..
he is also limited in that he cannot lie for all these vileness is not found in him..
he limited himself because he is love..he limits himself in so many things so people take delight in him when he blesses them..he is a person who takes delight in giving..he gives so much to us..he is a happy God as stated in the bible..if the ultimate ruler in the entire universe gave us such a treatment..what have we as his creatures, given back to him??
so yes..im saying, becasue of his love to give life,to share the joy of being alive..he chose not to know about the treachery that is gonna happen in advance..
Why God give a book with so many inaccuracies and contraditions?
Anyone who read the bible know It's not from God.
Originally posted by Rooney9:ya so many paradoxes and loopholes. one example is the creation of earth in a mere 6 days? given god's power, why not an instant? you cannot even build a building in 6 months, much less the size of earth?
does the churches not teach that the 6 days are not literal 24 hours days??the 6 days simply means 6 seperate period of time.each day could be a billion years for all we know...a day meaning a period of time is not an idea thats unused in the bible..
churches dont even teach that now??
Originally posted by domonkassyu:
does the churches not teach that the 6 days are not literal 24 hours days??the 6 days simply means 6 seperate period of time.each day could be a billion years for all we know...a day meaning a period of time is not an idea thats unused in the bible..churches dont even teach that now??
The jews celebrate the sabbath. It means It's 6 24 hour day.
If not Jews work for billions of year then rest on sabbath.
See skeptic annotated bible.
Originally posted by Almond Cookies:Why God give a book with so many inaccuracies and contraditions?
Anyone who read the bible know It's not from God.
inaccuracies like??
contradictions like?
Anyone who read the bible knows It's not from Humans.
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ see for your information
Originally posted by Rooney9:is that your wishful thinking for eternal life in heaven after death?
another loophole. if there isnt rebirth concept in christianity, there shouldnt be an afterlife after death. so what do you call that? in essence, after you die, that is it, no more, but there you go, an eternal life in heaven........
the bible states clearly, the dead is conscious of NOTHING at all...so means if a person die, thats it..if u heard it otherwise..its not a bible teaching.
heaven is not the final destination for humans..otherwise, why waste the time to create a planet earth to house humans for a short 20,000 years max then go heaven??stupid isnt it?
but the rebirth u talk of..there is a kind of rebirth if u will..its called a resurrection..u know like in dragonball where u wish a person back to life??yeah..thats the destination for most humans...a ressurection on earth..to live in eternity with your loved ones..in perfection..where no one fall sick or die..a paradise..