Originally posted by despondent:ah, u are looking at it using bottom up approach...who existed 1st? man or God? wad existed 1st good or evil? wad is evil? is evil the opposite of good or the absence of good? is man delusional because God is delusional or is man delusional because after he fell, he changed from being a perfect being to an imperfect being?
perfect? you have to ask god if his creations are perfect. does god knows his creations will turn into imperfect at the time of his creations, ie know in advance? if he knowingly know in advance and he still create, then whose fault does it lies? unless god doesnt know in advance his creations will turn into imperfect.
just like when he created lucifer, does god knows lucifer will betray him in future? if he knows that lucifer will become satan and he still continue to create him, then whose fault does it lies?
here lies the paradox. omniscient and omnipotent concept. when god created something, does god know the fate of that creature he created? then surely he would have known lucifer will become SATAN before lucifer was created isnt it, but god still allow lucifer to be SATAN and does not do anything to stop Lucifer from being SATAN.
Originally posted by despondent:ah, u are looking at it using bottom up approach...who existed 1st? man or God?
man of course. till date we still cannot confirm the existence of god. if god exists, science would have proven without a shadow of doubt. it will be in science textbooks and not in bible or some holy books. this fact will be written in journals, school textbooks, appear in documentaries as facts, but it isnt.
God is perfect ???!!!
then my 55-year-old ass is perfect too.....................
just the creation of Lucifer shows God is not only imperfect..................but also impotent since he can't destroy Lucifer...............
anyway, the whole story of Lucifer, etc etc................is a sorry excuse for a fictional story...............
### even Stephen King could have written a FAR MORE ENTERTAINING bible...........
God created us in his image not mean our face is like God.
Means God created us with the ability to create think etc.
But God's wisdom is infinite, ours is limited.
it became limited after Adam fell, Adam was created wif perfect wisdom and understanding...
Originally posted by despondent:it became limited after Adam fell, Adam was created wif perfect wisdom and understanding...
Oh I c.
Originally posted by -StarDust-:God created us in his image not mean our face is like God.
Means God created us with the ability to create think etc.
But God's wisdom is infinite, ours is limited.
if what you say is true then it's very strange!
that means that God thinks like a human BUT that's not very divine, isn't it?
The gods are all eternal scoundrels
Incapable of dissolving the suffering of impermanence.
Those who serve them and venerate them
May even in this world sink into a sea of sorrow.
We know the gods are false and have no concrete being;
Therefore the wise man believes them not
The fate of the world depends on causes and conditions
Therefore the wise man many not rely on gods.
Originally posted by Rooney9:The gods are all eternal scoundrels
Incapable of dissolving the suffering of impermanence.
Those who serve them and venerate them
May even in this world sink into a sea of sorrow.
We know the gods are false and have no concrete being;
Therefore the wise man believes them not
The fate of the world depends on causes and conditions
Therefore the wise man many not rely on gods.
that's a bit harsh, isn't it ?
The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.
Thought I posted this a month ago ? Dont understand ? Let me explain in layman terms.
It means a fool is foolish because he doesn't know about what he is ignorant of whereas the wise man, however knowledgeable, is well aware of the far greater expanse of knowledge about which he is ignorant.
Are u guys the fool or the wise man ?
Damn TS
You are implying the rest are bastards, eh?
Milo, i think you got it wrong.
it's about why there are so many differnt races of man with so many different clours of skin.
Originally posted by GOD is my dog:
Milo, i think you got it wrong.
it's about why there are so many differnt races of man with so many different clours of skin.
Mr Dog, God is great, He welcome people of many races to come together and believe in Him. He has shown us the way. Come join me. Joy Joy Joy.
I can tell you for certain god ain't an uncultured heartlander, however he doesn't hang out at holland v either.
Originally posted by TrueSon:Mr Dog, God is great, He welcome people of many races to come together and believe in Him. He has shown us the way. Come join me. Joy Joy Joy.
only a fool will listen to a fool like you.
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:since he supposedly created Man in his image, how come not all humans are Angmohs leh ?
how he create a black man ah ?
and all the usual flaws that you can think of with this flawed fairytale ?
christianity was a hebrew religion kena stolen by angmoh..
races are but the result of a group of people undergoing pigmentation..its all explained by science..
Originally posted by Pinknutri:So, Christians said we are born sinners. Who to blame ? We are born sinners because God created humans after him.
God created perfect humans..humans screws up as usual and u blame God??i give you a plate of food and u dropped it on the floor resulting in u going hungry and im to blame for ur screwup?
there are actually a lot of questionable 'facts' in the bible that christians cant explain.
but then we know they'll say, 'god's wisdom is infinite. we humans will never understand.'
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:
precisely !!!
jesus and god always depicted as white with blond hair and blue eyes...................
scientists say since jesus (not that he existed) was a jew so he would be much darker............not blonde and no blue eyes..............
how many people would not have joined this man-made religion then if jesus don't look anywhere near the current false depiction ?
would so many chinese worship guan yin if they really know or remember that hes really an indian man??
Jesus is a jew..most probaly handsome at that since hes perfect..it was the angmohs that makes him angmoh..what to do??hell, hollywood makes anything into american to sell more tickets...of course romans will make JC angmoh to sell to their pagan citizens...they look all the same...
Originally posted by dragg:there are actually a lot of questionable 'facts' in the bible that christians cant explain.
but then we know they'll say, 'god's wisdom is infinite. we humans will never understand.'
facts like??maybe my humble knowledge might be able to bring something on?
i never liked the way that questions are brushed away by "your primitive brain will never comprehend my greatness"..its so PAP..
Originally posted by domonkassyu:
God created perfect humans..humans screws up as usual and u blame God??i give you a plate of food and u dropped it on the floor resulting in u going hungry and im to blame for ur screwup?
if god has intended for us to be perfect he wouldnt have left the tree of knowledge within the reach of adam and eve.
Originally posted by domonkassyu:
God created perfect humans..humans screws up as usual and u blame God??i give you a plate of food and u dropped it on the floor resulting in u going hungry and im to blame for ur screwup?
bad worker blame his tools
Originally posted by dragg:if god has intended for us to be perfect he wouldnt have left the tree of knowledge within the reach of adam and eve.
the adam and eve being perfect humans..already have a super intelligence..the tree...reminded them the wisdom they foolishly forsaken..all for vanity..
Just curious how the earth was filled with so many varied races....
In that case what were the races for Adam and Eve?