Who is Buddha?
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Originally posted by parn:
Let their believers speak for on their own believe and experience in their religion.I can speak based on my own conviction and experience with GOD.
what is your own experience with GOD? How did GOD help you in any way?
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parnie, u and your heinous posting again
u wish u were Mary Magdalene so jesus would rehabilitate your virginilty when u lost it to buddha for a fee
i hate him coz he stole my girl friend. wen we wer having so much fun and exicitment
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Originally posted by kengkia:
what is your own experience with GOD? How did GOD help you in any way?
god created a mentally ill person such as her -
according to the bible, anyone or everyone here is being created for a purpose, as what exactly the purpose is, it's up to those individual themselves. Parnie do have a reason to exist in this world, so do i and so do you laurence
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Originally posted by kengkia:
according to the bible, anyone or everyone here is being created for a purpose, as what exactly the purpose is, it's up to those individual themselves. Parnie do have a reason to exist in this world, so do i and so do you laurence
yes, i know, she is to be mentally ill
thats her purpose
woots
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Originally posted by Fugazzi:parn,Different planes of being perceive differntly, and it is palpable that you seem to differ and i do understand ur stance. How to explain that which is herenow? how to partake of what is true when one is absent to what is.
Speak plainly if you wish to continue a discussion.Unless you wish to end the discussion with your atheism cheemalogy, else rephrase yourself using simpler terms.
Nobody can respond to you when nobody can understand your comments.
Is that how you wish this discussion to end?
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Originally posted by kengkia:
what is your own experience with GOD? How did GOD help you in any way?
This is a personal question which I'm not comfortable to share it openly with anonymous strangers. -
Originally posted by kengkia:
according to the bible, anyone or everyone here is being created for a purpose, as what exactly the purpose is, it's up to those individual themselves. Parnie do have a reason to exist in this world, so do i and so do you laurence
laurence82 is terribly afraid of being known as "mentally ill", can't you tell it from the way he has been desperately trying to push that terminology away from himself.But then, which non-mentally ill patient would go and earned 100k posts on ass-kissing in crapbox?
They need to be so mentally-ill that they don't realised that they are mentally-ill to do that. Pushing away their mental condition to other person is already an obvious giveaway sign.
We need to avoid replying to them in order to make them feel that they are normal.
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oh my fuking crazy god
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Originally posted by parn:
This is a personal question which I'm not comfortable to share it openly with anonymous strangers.share it with me then via PM.
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Originally posted by parn:
Everything has a creator, that creator is GOD.Nothing happens by pure accident or coincidence, and science are unable to prove human evolution exists because human evolution does not exist.
Buddha can be an enlightened human with very talented learning abilities, but he does not create like GOD.
Every non-human controlled situations are specifically put in place by GOD when HE created the world.
That includes bringing in enough sunlight for all living things to survive, populate in the world, enough air supply and food to maintain life cycle balance in the world.
Things does not assemble themselves by accident no matter how many thousands millions years you spin them around inside a washing machine.
Learn to appreciate life and the beautiful world around you. It's all carefully made by GOD.
And if you don't question, you will never get an answer. It's really as simple as that, so go and open your eyes and then open your mind. The answers are all out there in front of you if you wish to seek them.
You are right. Everything has a creator. Humans' creator is God, God's creator is God's God. God's God creator is God's God's God ............................ never ending story.
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Originally posted by parn:
This is a personal question which I'm not comfortable to share it openly with anonymous strangers.You are really ignorant. You think you are the only one who experienced God. Followers from other religions also experienced with their higher beings. So, nothing to boast or feels great about experiencing your God.
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Originally posted by parn:
Enlightened doesn't makes buddha a god, he's still a human and still an indian prince by birth.So why do people worship buddha like a god when he's only a human?
That's a concern because if many people worship buddha because he's only an enlightened human, that means buddha is just a false idol created by humans.....and overly-exaggerated.
If you do not know why Buddhists bow to Buddha, please ask and not make assumptions. Buddhists bow to Buddha out of respect and is also a reminder of His teachings. It is unlike Christianity, pray and pray and hope that all your wishes will be granted.
Buddhists believe only by following Buddha's teachings, will one be relieve from sufferings and wishes will be granted. In another words, all depends on your deeds and not soley on Buddha's blessings.
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Please get the facts right.
We bow to Buddha out of respect.
We do not worship Buddha, but see him as a teacher. We ourselves have Buddha-nature and can awaken any time. Buddhist aim to become a Buddha, not just worship one.
Also: we don't treat Buddha like gods. We treat Buddhas as more respectable than gods, who are still unawakened beings in samasara, still trapped in the cycle of samsara without ending. Buddha was known as the 'teacher of gods and men'.
By the way, Buddha was not the only enlightened being - thousands of his students attained enlightenment.
There continue to be lots of enlightened people today.
I, for one, am awake, and would not hide this fact (some others may be more humble or shy or think that announcing enlightenment is a taboo). But there are far more others... in my forum and in other places.
p.s. there are different degrees of enlightenment, and I do not want to give the impression that I have reached final enlightenment. But some fundamental truths are realized. And even the first stage of enlightenment is already seen as much higher than living the lives of gods:
- Dhammapada 178:
- Sole dominion over the earth,
- going to heaven,
- lordship over all worlds:
- the fruit of stream-entry
- excels them.
p.s. as for God with a capital G, nope, Buddhists don't believe there is one and therefore it does not relevant to compare Buddha with God in the context of Buddhism. More than that, we realize there couldn't be a God (when we realize and become enlightened to the truth of interdependent origination).
However, Buddha did tell us of a god (a being in a very high plane) who was deluded to think he created the world.
From an old post of mine:
In Buddha's days there were many many different teachings, one popular one was Brahmanism. In fact the Brahma was still worshipped nowadays. Brahma was known to be "The Supreme One, the All-mighty, the All-seeing, the Ruler, the Lord of all, the Maker, the Creator, the Chief of All".
In Buddhism, the Mahabrahma resides in the 1st Jhana plane, the first plane among the 8 jhanic planes. There were higher realms above where he lives that he was unaware of, and above it all, beyond the 8 Jhanic planes and all Samsaric planes, is Nirvana. Nevertheless all the devas below the 1st Jhana planes considered him as the Creator God. Buddha did not subscribe to the belief of such a notion that the Universe and its Inhabitants were the Creation of the Mahabrahma. He met with the Brahma, asked him questions which he could not answer. Eventually he has taken refuge in the Buddha, Dharma, and Sangha.
The Buddha was also known to have said this,
If the creator of the world entire
They call God, of every being be the Lord
Why does he order such misfortune
If the creator of the world entire
They call God, of every being be the Lord
Why prevail deceit, lies and ignorance
And he such inequity and injustice create?
If the creator of the world entire
They call God, of every being be the Lord
Then an evil master is he, (O Aritta)
Knowing what's right did let wrong prevail!
When the previous universe was destroyed and this universe was formed, the Mahabrahma was first to be reborn. Other subsequent brahmas/devas were to be reborn.
'On this, brethren, the one who was first reborn thinks thus to himself: " I am Brahmà, the Great Brahmà, the Supreme One, the Mighty, the All-seeing, the Ruler, the Lord of all, the Maker, the Creator, the Chief of all, appointing to each his place, the Ancient of days the Father of all that are and are to be. 'These other beings are of my creation. And why is that so? A while ago I thought, 'Would that they might come!' And on my mental aspiration, behold the beings came." DN 1 2:5
In reality, the universe works by the law of Karma and he has no control over the system of karma.
The Venerable Ledi Sayadaw, a highly renowned Myanmar scholar-monk of the first part of this century, gave a careful analysis of the powers of Maha Brahma in his Niyama Dipani (MB pp. 138-39). He states that although Maha Brahma can perform all sorts of transformations, he cannot actually create independent creatures, change the kammic law of cause and effect, or keep anyone from growing old or dying. Brahma can use his special powers to transport a man to the brahma plane for a short visit, but he cannot ensure that someone will be reborn there.
from http://www.jenchen.org.sg/vol5no3f.htm:
When he came to know about Sakyamuni Buddha in the human world who speaks of the universal truth, he was curious and arrived at the human world with the intention to debate with the Buddha. The Buddha, with his ability to know another's mind, knew his intention and asked, "You claim to be the creator of the human race and all things in the universe, is this a fact?"
The king replied, "Yes, it is."
Buddha continued to question him, "Since you created life, why did you also create death? Is death created by you too?"
The king paused for while, and thinking that everyone loves life and nobody welcomes death, he replied, "I did not create death."
Buddha asked him again, "All human beings experience sickness, did you create sickness also?" The king knew that nobody likes to be ill, and he replied, "I did not create illness."
Buddha asked many questions in succession, but the king denied that he created them. Eventually, he admitted that he did not create the universe and all things in it, and certainly not the human race. The king of heavens was full of regrets and he felt ashamed. Finally, he accepted Buddha as his teacher and invited Him to spread the Dharma in the heavens.
http://www.mahindarama.com/e-library/whybuddhism2.html
"To those who talked about the first cause of this world, the Buddha responded by saying that it is impossible to find a first cause since everything is changing, interdependent and conditioned by other things. Something that acts as the cause in the present may become the effect in the future. Later that same effect may again become the cause. Such phenomenon continues ad infinitum. It is called the universal law of Anicca or impermanency.” -
Dun need quarrel lah. Just practise wad faith u find comfortable with.
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Originally posted by Pure Emptiness:
Dun need quarrel lah. Just practise wad faith u find comfortable with.
Not quarreling but must get the facts right or this ignorant TS will go round telling others the wrong thing.
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its obvious TS is trolling and the christians acting nonchalant
dont have to spend much time explaining
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Originally posted by Pinknutri:
Not quarreling but must get the facts right or this ignorant TS will go round telling others the wrong thing.
well arent they doing this all this while? look no further than that Rony Tan.
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Parn,
I never assumed an atheistic stance nor did i proclaim to be an atheist. As it ever occurred to you that is your projection emanating from within you?
However, that is your predicament. You are free to spout all that comes to you - it is you and u are being u whatever u type here. To reject outrightly, what one knows not or lacks insight is the highest form of ignorance.
By judging - u are not defining what another is (in this instance, me) or . .. but defining what you are. The same goes for and each and everyone posting here. It is only whether one accepts, pretends or simply ignores. However, it does not go away.
As for being misunderstood or not at, it is fine by me. I post to evoke ''questions'' and have one arrive at one's ''conclusion'' or ''views/opinions''.
i offer my views, opinions n what have u. u are free to be u just as others are. If it does not resonate of u or does not with u - lump it.
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Originally posted by kengkia:
according to the bible, anyone or everyone here is being created for a purpose, as what exactly the purpose is, it's up to those individual themselves. Parnie do have a reason to exist in this world, so do i and so do you laurence
### if everyone is created by God for a reason...............what purpose is there for small kids and babies dying of sickness or burned alive in motor accidents ???.............to satisfy that old psychopathic God's bloodlust ???
### Parn ............you claimed to have an experience with God..........you sure it wasn't a WET DREAM about God ???...................LOL.........
### waaah...............even An Eternal Now is here leh.............a million thanks !
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Originally posted by Pinknutri:
If you do not know why Buddhists bow to Buddha, please ask and not make assumptions. Buddhists bow to Buddha out of respect and is also a reminder of His teachings. It is unlike Christianity, pray and pray and hope that all your wishes will be granted.
Buddhists believe only by following Buddha's teachings, will one be relieve from sufferings and wishes will be granted. In another words, all depends on your deeds and not soley on Buddha's blessings.
Oh? So buddhist only respect buddha and don't worship buddha?Obviously you have been visiting some deserted temples......LOL!
And how can your wishes be granted if you do not pray to buddha?
You mean your silent wishes will automatically be granted without you asking for it?
You're more mentally disturbed than I've imagined of you.
Even if you found a magic lamp, you still need to pray to the genie in the lamp before your wishes can be granted.
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
Please get the facts right.
We bow to Buddha out of respect.
We do not worship Buddha, but see him as a teacher. We ourselves have Buddha-nature and can awaken any time. Buddhist aim to become a Buddha, not just worship one.
Also: we don't treat Buddha like gods. We treat Buddhas as more respectable than gods, who are still unawakened beings in samasara, still trapped in the cycle of samsara without ending. Buddha was known as the 'teacher of gods and men'.
By the way, Buddha was not the only enlightened being - thousands of his students attained enlightenment.
There continue to be lots of enlightened people today.
I, for one, am awake, and would not hide this fact (some others may be more humble or shy or think that announcing enlightenment is a taboo). But there are far more others... in my forum and in other places.
p.s. there are different degrees of enlightenment, and I do not want to give the impression that I have reached final enlightenment. But some fundamental truths are realized. And even the first stage of enlightenment is already seen as much higher than living the lives of gods:
- Dhammapada 178:
- Sole dominion over the earth,
- going to heaven,
- lordship over all worlds:
- the fruit of stream-entry
- excels them.
p.s. as for God with a capital G, nope, Buddhists don't believe there is one and therefore it does not relevant to compare Buddha with God in the context of Buddhism. More than that, we realize there couldn't be a God (when we realize and become enlightened to the truth of interdependent origination).
However, Buddha did tell us of a god (a being in a very high plane) who was deluded to think he created the world.
From an old post of mine:
I see, so you respect buddha who isn't a god, but yet you can respect buddha in a more respectable manner than god. That's quite a story.So you have buddha nature and can awakened it anytime? I mean I also can awakened my buddha nature and be KIND to all of you by wearing my buddha mask. And I'm sure everyone have their own buddha mask which they can also awaken it as and when they need it.
So tell me what's the point of telling me this? You sure you are proud about being able to flash out your buddha mask as and when the occasion calls for it?
I don't mind if you believed that buddha is the teacher of god when you don't even realise that the god mentioned in your buddhist context is not the same GOD as the Christian GOD. I'll leave it to your enlightened mind to figure it out.
Yes, you need to get your facts right. Make sure you are referring to the same GOD before you even try to quote it out of your buddhist context.
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Originally posted by laurence82:
its obvious TS is trolling and the christians acting nonchalant
dont have to spend much time explaining
Someone obviously have been trolling too much in crapbox until he has developed this warped mentality that any posts that anyone who doesn't post in his favor is considered trolling.That's really pathetic.
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Originally posted by Pinknutri:
If you do not know why Buddhists bow to Buddha, please ask and not make assumptions. Buddhists bow to Buddha out of respect and is also a reminder of His teachings. It is unlike Christianity, pray and pray and hope that all your wishes will be granted.
Buddhists believe only by following Buddha's teachings, will one be relieve from sufferings and wishes will be granted. In another words, all depends on your deeds and not soley on Buddha's blessings.
Ohh? You failed to read what the topic was asking?Ok, go and read the topic again and then kindly reply to the topic please.