Who is Buddha?
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Originally posted by S.gal83:
Every religion required some kinds of faith to believe in, including the buddhist faith.In buddhism, you believe in karma. Yet, you don't believe in the Creator God. So, with regard to karma, what 'evil' did the first animals did in their past lives to be born as the first animals instead of being born human? What good did the first 'human being' done to be born as a human being and not an animal? Who started karma, who was the law behind karma. Since there is no creator God in buddhism, who was responsible for the first karma?
Secondly buddhism preached about not killing anything. And this is a good teaching. But what about in the case of an insect that can cause plague to come onto the entire human race? Should the insects be killed because of the plague, or should the 'no killing' belief of buddhism applied even in the case of a plague causing insect?
Thirdly, buddhism preached about leaving the family to seek enlightenment. In this case, a person became a monk or a nun. Don't you think this defy the logic? If every man or woman choose to become a monk or a nun as a result of the buddhist faith, where will the family be? Who will help to ensure the human race continue to survive by procreation?
Finally, the population of the earth's animals had reduced creatly in years due to humans' hunting of the animal population. Yet, I observed that mankind is not doing less evil, but more evil day after day. What happened to karma? Why are these evil men not being born to be animals? And if they are born as animals, why are the number of animal population reducing?
I pose these questions not to attack the buddhist religion, but to show that every religion had their own loophole.
I remeber that buddhists respect all religions, yet from the behaviours of many buddhists here, I do not see how buddhists respect all other religions. Why will a buddhist attack the christian faith if the buddhist really respect all religions.
Do you see me going to the buddhist forums and asking all kinds of difficult questions, to make you lose faith in your buddhism? I only remember asking in the buddhist forum about what buddhist think of Jesus, and that is out of a great curiousity.
To end it off, I will like to thank some of the buddhists here who do not attack the christian faith, but merely post here to clarify the concept of buddhism. It is people like you that makes religious harmony a posible experience.
Finally, I will end with a quotation of the bible verse.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
Let's not boast about our own religion like as if it is the greatest, and let's not attack each other because of religious differences.
God bless,
S.gal
I think you did not get the whole picture. Your Christian sister's topic is not about Buddha, the content is attacking Buddhism. Jesus said reap what you sow. Others are attacking Christianity because TS is attacking Buddhism. Remember reap what you sow. You have to correct TS first before you correct others.
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Originally posted by laurence82:
what posts?you can even respond properly to the rest, you are not qualified to respond to any of my intelligent posts either
mutual is a word probably you learn in primary school, go back to school, stupid
lolz
So you don't know the answer or you have difficulty coming up with an opinion?Just say you don't know if you don't know, no need to feel ashamed about it and desperately try to avoid it. You're only going to make people think you're a troll when you have no opinion or unable to reply to the topic.
It's a fact that guys are useless, unlike æ¦åˆ™å¤© who brought the golden age to China.
Cannot even answer such a simple question.
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Originally posted by S.gal83:
Every religion required some kinds of faith to believe in, including the buddhist faith.In buddhism, you believe in karma. Yet, you don't believe in the Creator God. So, with regard to karma, what 'evil' did the first animals did in their past lives to be born as the first animals instead of being born human? What good did the first 'human being' done to be born as a human being and not an animal? Who started karma, who was the law behind karma. Since there is no creator God in buddhism, who was responsible for the first karma?
Secondly buddhism preached about not killing anything. And this is a good teaching. But what about in the case of an insect that can cause plague to come onto the entire human race? Should the insects be killed because of the plague, or should the 'no killing' belief of buddhism applied even in the case of a plague causing insect?
Thirdly, buddhism preached about leaving the family to seek enlightenment. In this case, a person became a monk or a nun. Don't you think this defy the logic? If every man or woman choose to become a monk or a nun as a result of the buddhist faith, where will the family be? Who will help to ensure the human race continue to survive by procreation?
Finally, the population of the earth's animals had reduced creatly in years due to humans' hunting of the animal population. Yet, I observed that mankind is not doing less evil, but more evil day after day. What happened to karma? Why are these evil men not being born to be animals? And if they are born as animals, why are the number of animal population reducing?
I pose these questions not to attack the buddhist religion, but to show that every religion had their own loophole.
I remeber that buddhists respect all religions, yet from the behaviours of many buddhists here, I do not see how buddhists respect all other religions. Why will a buddhist attack the christian faith if the buddhist really respect all religions.
Do you see me going to the buddhist forums and asking all kinds of difficult questions, to make you lose faith in your buddhism? I only remember asking in the buddhist forum about what buddhist think of Jesus, and that is out of a great curiousity.
To end it off, I will like to thank some of the buddhists here who do not attack the christian faith, but merely post here to clarify the concept of buddhism. It is people like you that makes religious harmony a posible experience.
Finally, I will end with a quotation of the bible verse.
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
Let's not boast about our own religion like as if it is the greatest, and let's not attack each other because of religious differences.
God bless,
S.gal
Just for your information, there are 6 realms. They are heavens, demi-gods,humans, animals and hell. It seems that you only know animals and humans. Buddhists aim not to be born in these 6 realms. I know the basic though I'm no expert.
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Originally posted by Pinknutri:
EVERYBODY, PLEASE SEE THIS THREAD BELOW. AFTER SEEING THIS THREAD, THERE IS NO NEED TO ARGUE WITH PARN ANYMORE. SEE WHAT TS WROTE.
Yes, everybody should come and read my topic.Thank you for the free advertising.
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Originally posted by laurence82:
aiyah we all know she is troublemaker, loser and troll
anyway as long as tis rubbish topic is in this rubbish forum, keep it this way, dont pollute other forums
Ohh..so you're afraid of being labelled as a troublemaker, loser and troll?What an irony!
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Originally posted by laurence82:
appreciate if you could read up on buddha
if you dont know, dont start topic
waste of bytes u noe
Huh? Don't know cannot start topic? Which side of your brain tells you that? Left or Right?It's because I don't know, that's why I have the need to start this topic.
You think people start topic only to show-off their knowledge?
People who do that are simply retarded if they felt the need to show off the little knowledge that they possesses.
If I need to start topic on everything that I know, my post count will be so high that would make you feel even more like an idiot than you already are.
Just say you've made a stupid comment and you have already taken the first step to grow a brain.
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Originally posted by iceFatboy:
hi, just my little gentle reminder.
I am a christian, & I do know there is only one god.
Yes, some may come and tramp on your toes, but there is no need to engage in these pointless communications that to me, is not glorifying God, but instead the reverse.
trust me, certain things, we just have to leave it and things will move. the more we fight it, it may just bear wrong fruits.
peace, bless you.
Nobody step on my toes, even if they do, they will know how to apologise to me and I will forgive them.The fact that many buddhists and godless-trolls alike have been coming to this christian forum to persecute Christianity and Jesus, these low-life behaviour should have been dealt with zero tolerance policy in the first place.
Maybe the moderators are afraid, or maybe they are really the very people who condone and encourage such behaviours based on their hatred and grievances in Christianity. Or maybe Mother Moderatress is not a Christian herself and doesn't know the importance of employing zero tolerance policy on all religious forums.
Either way, such behaviour have been left unchecked for too long and people like you are already adopting an escapist mentality in here and probably in your real life.
I'm discussing about buddha, but these bad people come to spark a religious quarrel and forced me to discuss about buddhism which I'm not familiar.
Maybe they don't know how to discuss about buddha or maybe they just don't have any peace within themselves even when they're anonymously online in here.
Either way, I feel sad for them and they pathetic if they need to do bad things like this in anonymously in an online forum.
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Originally posted by laurence82:
why not? its either here or jokes forum
It's not shameful if your limited intellectual capacity only allows you to troll in here and jokes forum.Knowing your limitations, maybe I should've have pushed you to think too much or write too many sentences.
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
On karma: there is no 'first animals' nor 'first humans'. Mindstreams have no beginning. This current universe did had a beginning, but there were previous universes. The cycle goes ad infinitum and is propelled by causes and conditions... there is no source or beginning to this process of becoming.
Also, karma is simply natural cause and effect. It is not a law created by someone else.
On insects killing: there are many alternatives to killing insects. Posted this 5 years ago: Hello, my master Ven. Shen Kai offered a solution to Ants and Co-ckroaches (avoiding filter). He also mentioned about mosquitoes (but I can't remember well for that one). I will summarise a few points below.
Ants - put some Mei2 You2 near their home, they dislike the Mei2 You2 and will definitely move away from their home to somewhere else. To give the ants a sense of direction where to go you may put some food nearby, and they will go and live there. But don't put the food too far as it may be difficult for them to travel that far distance.
Co-ckroach - get some empty Wu3 Jia1 Pi2 Jiu3 (a type of Chinese traditional beer?). Co-ckroaches love to have a beer and will all go inside. Then you can throw the cans into a dirty place i.e trash can and let them live in their paradise. I don't know about other beers, you all could experiment yourself.
Mosquitoes - I can remember only he mentionwd two ways - burning that mosquito 'incense', or using some kind of electronic device that could make them sterilised and not be able to reproduce babies.
So we do not necessarily need to kill them to get rid of the pests. Wisdom will be of good use.On renunciation - renunciation has many kinds, you can be renounced mentally but not physically, you can be renounced physically but not mentally, or you can be both.
True enlightenment does require some level of 'inner renunciation' (non-attachment), but not necessarily outer renunciation.
In other words, becoming a monk is not a requirement for enlightenment. There are many enlightened lay persons. But those who want to focus their lives on spiritual practice may choose to become a monk. I didn't.
Also, 'if everyone becomes monk and nuns' is an impossibility, this is a scenario that can never happen. But to answer you anyway: in Buddhism, we do not advocate that everyone must become a monk or a nun to be a good Buddhist. The Buddha never expected everyone to become a monk. Buddhism has four supports or 'wheels' - Bhikkhus (monk), Bhikkshunis (nuns), layman, and laywoman.
Many people think that Buddhism is only about monks and nuns... not knowing that Buddhism is highly dependent on layman and laywoman - they are the ones supporting the monks financially. Monks cannot survive without layman, and layman (buddhists) do not get their spiritual nourishment without a dedicated sangha (monastic community) spreading the teachings. They are interdependent.
Last question about population - this is answered by understanding that in Buddhism, there are 6 realms and not just two or three. 6 realms are made of the 3 lower realms of hell, hungry ghost and animal, and the 3 higher realms of human, asuras, and devas/celestial beings. Furthermore: according to the Buddhist worldview there are countless planets, galaxies, universes inhabited by sentient lives. Therefore do not limit your view to a very limited perspective of this planet... or even a small group of species.
I understand that some Buddhist(s) (rooney? not sure if there is anybody else) have been quite hard on Christianity on this forum. To this, there is nothing much I can do - but my advise for these people would be that it is more beneficial posting (in the Buddhist forum of course) and learning about Buddhism than to argue non stop against the existence of a creator. What is the point anyway? It's not like a few logical arguments can easily convince someone who follows a path by faith.
Since you're a moderator yourself in buddhist forum, so you should be aware that it's really rude to try to spread buddhism at other non-buddhism forums.Why not share more about buddha and shed more light relevant to the topic instead?
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Originally posted by parn:
Since you're a moderator yourself in buddhist forum, so you should be aware that it's really rude to try to spread buddhism at other non-buddhism forums.Why not share more about buddha and shed more light relevant to the topic instead?
How can you comment others are rude when you are rude. He is replying to your post and S.gal83's post. S.gal83's post is asking about Buddhism. Please read carefully.
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Originally posted by An Eternal Now:
Most are atheists, not Buddhists.
I have not closed a topic on my forum this year except if it is advertising spam. We are open to any discussions as long as it is related to Buddhism.
If they are really atheists, then maybe they should be educated to know that what they are doing is wrong?It's just not an acceptable behaviour to come into religious forum and start attacking the religion or their GOD.
As a moderator of your own buddhism forum, what do you think?
Not doing anything about it because it's easy to say there's nothing anyone can do about it.
Everyone should take their own responsibility to behave like mature sensible people and do their part to condemn such behaviours from these atheists.
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Originally posted by Pinknutri:
How can you comment others are rude when you are rude. He is replying to your post and S.gal83's post. S.gal83's post is asking about Buddhism. Please read carefully.
So you are saying that you're rude because you have tried to promote buddhism in a Christian forum?Or you're going to deny that?
It's just basic courtesy that anyone should be sensible enough to know and obey.
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Originally posted by Saltiga:
the joker who is losing a battle claims that she is winning the war..
carry a pc of brick and smash your own leg kinda thread and replies
Only real losers would be concern about winning or losing any battle.As you can see, there are many real losers in this forum and you're also one of them.
You're probably the biggest real life loser in this forum.
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Originally posted by Pinknutri:
I think you did not get the whole picture. Your Christian sister's topic is not about Buddha, the content is attacking Buddhism. Jesus said reap what you sow. Others are attacking Christianity because TS is attacking Buddhism. Remember reap what you sow. You have to correct TS first before you correct others.
Leave S.gal83 alone, she's just speaking her mind that's all.No need to drag her into your christians condemnation list, just wrongfully condemn me is already good enough for you...regardless if you're atheist or buddhist.
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Originally posted by Pinknutri:
I think you did not get the whole picture. Your Christian sister's topic is not about Buddha, the content is attacking Buddhism. Jesus said reap what you sow. Others are attacking Christianity because TS is attacking Buddhism. Remember reap what you sow. You have to correct TS first before you correct others.
Actually I believe in "Reap what you sow".If you do bad things, you will recieve bad things in return.
Like wise if you treat pple good, pple will treat you good.
Nothing to do with any religion teaching in this sentence.
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Originally posted by Pinknutri:
Just for your information, there are 6 realms. They are heavens, demi-gods,humans, animals and hell. It seems that you only know animals and humans. Buddhists aim not to be born in these 6 realms. I know the basic though I'm no expert.
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Originally posted by likeyou:
Actually I believe in "Reap what you sow".If you do bad things, you will recieve bad things in return.
Like wise if you treat pple good, pple will treat you good.
Nothing to do with any religion teaching in this sentence.
Actually the world itself is not fair, and if you also agreed with me, then I would advise you not to harbour such naive thoughts.Because eventually you will realised that the world isn't just unkind to you only.
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Originally posted by parn:
So you don't know the answer or you have difficulty coming up with an opinion?Just say you don't know if you don't know, no need to feel ashamed about it and desperately try to avoid it. You're only going to make people think you're a troll when you have no opinion or unable to reply to the topic.
It's a fact that guys are useless, unlike æ¦åˆ™å¤© who brought the golden age to China.
Cannot even answer such a simple question.
so do you know what is mutual respect which is lacking in your house?
even god does not make women his priests
so obey man, is that hard to understand?
lolz
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Originally posted by parn:
It's not shameful if your limited intellectual capacity only allows you to troll in here and jokes forum.Knowing your limitations, maybe I should've have pushed you to think too much or write too many sentences.
why are you describing yourself? tell me something new...
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Originally posted by parn:
Only real losers would be concern about winning or losing any battle.As you can see, there are many real losers in this forum and you're also one of them.
You're probably the biggest real life loser in this forum.
parnie, are u the winner here? you have been trying to avoid me the whole week and i miss u so much. -
*sniggers*
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Originally posted by laurence82:
so do you know what is mutual respect which is lacking in your house?
even god does not make women his priests
so obey man, is that hard to understand?
lolz
Maybe you come from a broken family background, that's why you have such distorted mentality.Men come from Women, so Men must OBEY Women.
Ask you Mum and she'll say I'm correct.
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Originally posted by laurence82:
why are you describing yourself? tell me something new...
I'm definitely describing you because you're worse than me.Unless you're so retarded that you are unable to comprehend my posts, then so be it...probably better for you to be ignorant and feel blessed especially when Christmas is coming.
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Originally posted by parn:
Actually the world itself is not fair, and if you also agreed with me, then I would advise you not to harbour such naive thoughts.Because eventually you will realised that the world isn't just unkind to you only.
The wold is never a fair place to live in.There is "not fair" in this fast pacing society we live in.
Just like saying :hey, not fair, so and so has this benefit, I dont have, why like that?...".
I strongly believe in what you do to people around you, it will bounce back to you. Do more good deeds, and good deeds will find you.
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Originally posted by parn:
Maybe you come from a broken family background, that's why you have such distorted mentality.Men come from Women, so Men must OBEY Women.
Ask you Mum and she'll say I'm correct.
ask god? what does your god says?make women a priest? put women into confession box? lead the congregration?
lolz, u are one example why god doesnt trust women