blindly following something not as good as confused meh?
but i do agreed that ppl ard here seems too uptight about all these religion thingy, i mean i do read up about religion and stuff and i do follow the teaching of religion to the best that circumstances permits but not to that extend of questioning and putting down other religion, faith in religion is more so for your belief then anything, 《心�寄托》kinda thing, but at the end of the day its still going be you who is making the final decision, even if heaven is supposed to drop money its still going to be your own effort in bending down to pickup that'll determine the amount you get from such windfall (if any)
When one has a belief on closer scrutiny it belies this: that one does not know. It is an idea, a concept or ... imposed from outside onself. It is misinterpreted as knowing and one carries the idea of "God" or '' .... (add on). Believing and know are entirely different. It is unconsciously being ignorant and it limits the possibility of discovery, recognition or even ''freeing'' oneself.
If one wants to see light, and then there is no need to believe. Unless one is blind and believing and even that beleif does not help. Can it help? When one knows and in the knowing (process) believing simply drops off.
Does one have to believe in the moon, the sun or the stars? One simply knows and the question of beleif is redundant.
Fictions needs maintenance and what is real (true) does not. The word fire does not burn nor does the word love means loving!
One has to wary (if not aware) of the fallacies of adopting such a stance blindly, especially when it is just all beliefs and limiting. It would go a long way to at least be open to the possibilities of one having misintrepreted ....
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Originally posted by Fugazzi:When one has a belief on closer scrutiny it belies this: that one does not know. It is an idea, a concept or ... imposed from outside onself. It is misinterpreted as knowing and one carries the idea of "God" or '' .... (add on). Believing and know are entirely different. It is unconsciously being ignorant and it limits the possibility of discovery, recognition or even ''freeing'' oneself.
If one wants to see light, and then there is no need to believe. Unless one is blind and believing and even that beleif does not help. Can it help? When one knows and in the knowing (process) believing simply drops off.
Does one have to believe in the moon, the sun or the stars? One simply knows and the question of beleif is redundant.
Fictions needs maintenance and what is real (true) does not. The word fire does not burn nor does the word love means loving!
One has to wary (if not aware) of the fallacies of adopting such a stance blindly, especially when it is just all beliefs and limiting. It would go a long way to at least be open to the possibilities of one having misintrepreted ....
heaven...................nothing but wishful thinking
so right
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:the Human Ego and Desire to Exist led to the creations of religions..............think about it and instinctively, you know it's true.
people can't accept that after their physical lives ended, they'll be gone and forgotten............. they feel they're special and their lives mean something............that ego, the fear of dying and the desire to exist created the idea of a permanent soul/self......................they think they're separate and different from all others...........
but then they've seen and know people suffer physical deaths..............so they thought '' Ah Ha ! there must be an Eternal After-Life after my mortal life ends !''
but where will that After-Life be at ?..................so people think it must be a most pleasurable and happy place since who wants to live Eternally in a shithole, right ?...............so let's call that dreamed-up Utopia........Heaven !
so the next question will be WHO created Heaven ??? well, just as Man has to create the tools he needs..........then SOMEONE must have created Man and Heaven and everything else !
so.........HEY PRESTO !!!............let's call this dreamed-up Creator/Maker...........God............
that's the reason why all religions contained stories that's far far too HUMAN to be Divine.............plus full of loopholes and flaws...........
it make sound extremist and crazy but yet if you think about it with an open-mind, seems to make sense too.
i'll have to think about this.
good to finally wake up
Originally posted by GOD is my dog:
it make sound extremist and crazy but yet if you think about it with an open-mind, seems to make sense too.
i'll have to think about this.
yes.. its crazy or unbelieveable.. to the extent of crazy it makes sense too .. that's the world's view..
Heaven exist whether you like it or not.. if it does not exist. ask yourself.. " i do not have to die.. what.. after there's nothing to see beyond this earth..tio boh??
cheers
catholic
very tio.....................for an ignorant fool................
Originally posted by As romanista2001:
very tio.....................for an ignorant fool................
yes.. for me a fool.. like i said.. i rather be a fool according to your "wisdom" than be clever all ard.. thinking that we human beings know better than God.. Better to be humble than be clever and all knowing....
asro.. what's yr "intentions" to provoke christians?.. may i ask.. were you disapointed with the faith or the people or just "want" to provoke for the sake of provoking? or has any christians hurt you in one way or other? share lah! dun be shy..maybe they attacked yr faith.. you're buddhist or hindu or atheist? dun worry for me i wun say anything to hurt you.or you faith . As a catholic, we are taught to respect other people beliefs since young. . but hope you respect the christian faith 2.. No doubt we're in cyberworld and you can't see me and neither do i.. but let common sense and politness prevail thruout this forum..
We all have different beliefs' or explanations abt God.. or not believing in God.. at all.. On my part.. since this is a christian forum..for me i just state my catholic beliefs openly without resorting to attacks on other faiths. and that's my goal.. not sure for others.. ..
cheers
catholic
i agree humans created religions...but christianity isnt a religion, its a r/s wif God...hence christianity is not included as part of human's creations...:)
Originally posted by despondent:i agree humans created religions...but christianity isnt a religion, its a r/s wif God...hence christianity is not included as part of human's creations...:)
if christianity is not a religion, I dunno what is. Go google and find out the definition of religion for a start.
as for your second comment, *shakes head*
Originally posted by Rooney9:if christianity is not a religion, I dunno what is. Go google and find out the definition of religion for a start.
as for your second comment, *shakes head*
Some christians like my pastor believed that christianity is not a religion, It's a relationship with God.
Originally posted by Singaporecatholic:yes.. for me a fool.. like i said.. i rather be a fool according to your "wisdom" than be clever all ard.. thinking that we human beings know better than God.. Better to be humble than be clever and all knowing....
asro.. what's yr "intentions" to provoke christians?.. may i ask.. were you disapointed with the faith or the people or just "want" to provoke for the sake of provoking? or has any christians hurt you in one way or other? share lah! dun be shy..maybe they attacked yr faith.. you're buddhist or hindu or atheist? dun worry for me i wun say anything to hurt you.or you faith . As a catholic, we are taught to respect other people beliefs since young. . but hope you respect the christian faith 2.. No doubt we're in cyberworld and you can't see me and neither do i.. but let common sense and politness prevail thruout this forum..
We all have different beliefs' or explanations abt God.. or not believing in God.. at all.. On my part.. since this is a christian forum..for me i just state my catholic beliefs openly without resorting to attacks on other faiths. and that's my goal.. not sure for others.. ..
cheers
catholic
according to the heretical protestants, u are not a christian
why u bother?
Singaporecatholic, there's a roman catholic forum in sgforums.
Originally posted by Ascorbic Acid:
Some christians like my pastor believed that christianity is not a religion, It's a relationship with God.
if it is not a religion, so be it.
Originally posted by Rooney9:if christianity is not a religion, I dunno what is. Go google and find out the definition of religion for a start.
as for your second comment, *shakes head*
warped logic right?
Originally posted by laurence82:
warped logic right?
understatement to be honest
I dunno where is the wisdom?where are the sayings that indicate the profoundness?
god wisdom? I dun see any in any of the teachings?
Just like the "Cast Away" movie....Tom Hanks invented "Wilson" becos he need somebody to talk to....Hahaha !
Originally posted by -StarDust-:
God is not created by anything.God is eternal, have always existed before the universe. God is before all creation.
Can't agree more with you Stardust!
Originally posted by Asromanista2001:the Human Ego and Desire to Exist led to the creations of religions..............think about it and instinctively, you know it's true.
people can't accept that after their physical lives ended, they'll be gone and forgotten............. they feel they're special and their lives mean something............that ego, the fear of dying and the desire to exist created the idea of a permanent soul/self......................they think they're separate and different from all others...........
but then they've seen and know people suffer physical deaths..............so they thought '' Ah Ha ! there must be an Eternal After-Life after my mortal life ends !''
but where will that After-Life be at ?..................so people think it must be a most pleasurable and happy place since who wants to live Eternally in a shithole, right ?...............so let's call that dreamed-up Utopia........Heaven !
so the next question will be WHO created Heaven ??? well, just as Man has to create the tools he needs..........then SOMEONE must have created Man and Heaven and everything else !
so.........HEY PRESTO !!!............let's call this dreamed-up Creator/Maker...........God............
that's the reason why all religions contained stories that's far far too HUMAN to be Divine.............plus full of loopholes and flaws...........
actually, u sound logical.and i like the way u think this through..it means u are awakening to want to know about God =)
Man-made or not, we still need alot of man-made things what.....
Juz a tot...why do we have the term ''man-made''? if everything in the entire world/universe are/were man-made, why do we need to specify they are man-made? shld it not be an understood fact? IMO, the term ''man-made'' exist cos not everything in this universe is/was man-made...there are certain things that are not man-made...maybe thats why humans ''create'' religions...
Originally posted by Demon Bane:Man-made or not, we still need alot of man-made things what.....
agree, without being man made, god wouldnt be thought of as perfect being