Re : near-death experience
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if she realli belieevs in buddhism, she will admit she is a sinner...except perhaps they dun use the word ''sinner''...cos buddhism acknowledges the existence of evil/sufferings due to bad karma...
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Originally posted by despondent:
if she realli belieevs in buddhism, she will admit she is a sinner...except perhaps they dun use the word ''sinner''...cos buddhism acknowledges the existence of evil/sufferings due to bad karma...
No lah buddhist dun believe in Sinner/ sinful nature. -
eh...i am not too sure abt the part on sinful nature...but i noe they acknowledge evil/sufferings(to a very great extent in fact)...the very fact we still exist means there is still bad karma from our past lives that have yet to be repaid...
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Originally posted by despondent:
to complete the sentence: we are saved by God's grace through faith in Jesus Christ FOR good works...we are NOT saved BY good works.
yes, only saved by God....God's grace.....
yet no good works simply means no faith..... as you posted:
"Yep faith without deeds/good works are dead.
True faith will be accompanied by good works."
so the whole pic is very clear...... you need to understand what is faith in the first place...
nothing can save you except by the grace of God.....and God only.
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Hi all :) god bless us all God is love. Not a jealous nor revengeful god. He doesn't punish nor sent non-believers to hell. Cos he is love. God have no definite form. He does not judge. He gives us free-will to choose. There is no orginal sin. Once we meet him, our love for him will pour out without any barrier. And he will love us too. We will love each other without any condition. It's just naturally my dear friends :)
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God din create religion. We create it. Buddha teaches the way of life. Jues teaches love. And many saints walk on earth to teach. Bcos god is great. They teach several teachings bcos there are several ways, but we draw the line between diff groups or sects. We humans already draw lines between humans & animal. Then draw btw race,colour. Then btw countries. Then btw religion. Then btw sect & beliefs. And so on. Yet if u look in the big pic. :) there is onli one, one god. realize tat more lines we draw more complicated it gets. More wars and hate surfaces. Wars start bcos of differences and fear. God gives us freewill so we can learn to love each other. :) god bless us all
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Hi all. May I ask, do u believe that wat goes around, comes around? If u nood your head, then think about it. Karma is a word to describe wat goes ard comes ard. In the Buddhist teachings, it is nature force at work-wat goes ard comes ard. Karma got gd karma and bad karma too. Don't be frighten by the word. Btw it doesn't mean sin too. Hahaha.
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Very nice postings by Hahaha:)
I have often questioned myself what do people mean when they used the word "God".
And today, I found the best answer!
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:) hi souldivine, u got a veri nice nic. In fact your nic's meaning is true. Our soul knows all the answers about god, and our soul is really divine cos when he returns to god, he merges wif god. He will experience god, feel god, see through the eyes of god, he will knows everything god knows, feels,sees etc and become one wif god. There is no others but one. It use to be, still now it is and will always be. :) god bless u , and god is always wid u :) hahaha
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Hi all, let mi further elaborate the meaning of wat goes ard come ard. It also mean u reaps wat u sows. So it means: wat goes ard comes ard=u reap wat u sow=karma=nature force at work so wats the diff? Hahaha
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Originally posted by Hahaha:):
Hi all, let mi further elaborate the meaning of wat goes ard come ard. It also mean u reaps wat u sows. So it means:
wat goes ard comes ard=u reap wat u sow=karma=nature force at work
so wats the diff?
Hahaha
Christians don't believe in nature force at work or karma, they believe in god's will. Although the bible says u reap wat u sow, Christians sometimes believe this and sometimes believe in god's will. Very messy, actually what do you all believe, I'm also not sure. Sometimes god's will, sometimes free will. I'm very confused. Can have a fix one ? Which one ? -
Originally posted by Pinknutri:
Christians don't believe in nature force at work or karma, they believe in god's will. Although the bible says u reap wat u sow, Christians sometimes believe this and sometimes believe in god's will. Very messy, actually what do you all believe, I'm also not sure. Sometimes god's will, sometimes free will. I'm very confused. Can have a fix one ? Which one ?
U reap wad u sow means u do wrong things u will get punishment.Without Jesus purifications of sins, if u use sword, u will die by the sword, it means the sins of using sword for wrong motives will condmen u to hell. U reap wad u sow does not mean karma.
We believe in God's will and free will working together.
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Originally posted by Pinknutri:
Christians don't believe in nature force at work or karma, they believe in god's will. Although the bible says u reap wat u sow, Christians sometimes believe this and sometimes believe in god's will. Very messy, actually what do you all believe, I'm also not sure. Sometimes god's will, sometimes free will. I'm very confused. Can have a fix one ? Which one ?
And u as a buddhist who claimed to believe in karma come here to critisize us is a good thing? Not scared of creating bad karma?From wad I know, as an ex buddhist, my lastime dharma teacher told me buddhist must refrain from critisizing other religions. U critisize other religion also gt bad karma .
R u doing wad ur religion ask u to do.
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Originally posted by Caliburn:
Christians believe in ghosts and spirits. And wizards.... witches, sand djinns, giants, dragons, centaurs, talking snakes...
Am I missing anything?
Absolutely you missed the major...... Christians believe GOD....The existence of Heavenly father...
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Originally posted by -StarDust-:
And u as a buddhist who claimed to believe in karma come here to critisize us is a good thing? Not scared of creating bad karma?From wad I know, as an ex buddhist, my lastime dharma teacher told me buddhist must refrain from critisizing other religions. U critisize other religion also gt bad karma .
R u doing wad ur religion ask u to do.
Me, no Buddhist, Buddhist must take 3 refuges. I just agree with the teachings. Am I criticisng ? Just stating my confusion only wad. You should clarify instead of accusing.
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Originally posted by -StarDust-:
U reap wad u sow means u do wrong things u will get punishment.Without Jesus purifications of sins, if u use sword, u will die by the sword, it means the sins of using sword for wrong motives will condmen u to hell. U reap wad u sow does not mean karma.
We believe in God's will and free will working together.
Nice Explanation StarDust!! Glory to God
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Originally posted by -StarDust-:
U reap wad u sow means u do wrong things u will get punishment.Without Jesus purifications of sins, if u use sword, u will die by the sword, it means the sins of using sword for wrong motives will condmen u to hell. U reap wad u sow does not mean karma.
We believe in God's will and free will working together.
Ermm....... pardon me if i interpret you wrongly. with jesus purification of sins, one can use the sword without fear of going to hell. correct or wrong ? Luckily not all are Christians on earth, there are still people who fear to use sword for fear of going to hell.
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Originally posted by Pinknutri:
Ermm....... pardon me if i interpret you wrongly. with jesus purification of sins, one can use the sword without fear of going to hell. correct or wrong ? Luckily not all are Christians on earth, there are still people who fear to use sword for fear of going to hell.
If after accepting Jesus, u abuse the grace. It's a wrong mindset.And do u see christians using swords with wrong motives now ?
As for grace abusing christians, If those christian dun repent and change their mindset, they might end up in hell.
If we believe in abusing grace, we cant enter heaven. Not all those who call Jesus as lord enter the heaven.
We should repent and change that mindset.
Christians should have a right attitude/ mindset when it comes to sin. After all sins seperate us from God.
Abusing grace is certainly a wrong doctrine.
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Originally posted by Pinknutri:
Me, no Buddhist, Buddhist must take 3 refuges. I just agree with the teachings. Am I criticisng ? Just stating my confusion only wad. You should clarify instead of accusing.
If u agree with the teachings then dun critisize.My buddhist teachers lastime told me not to say anything to non-buddhist esp those who have their religious beliefs.
My buddhist teacher once mentioned Muslims slaughtering sheeps during their holy festivals. The teacher said It's an act which creates bad karma. The teacher said we discuss this only in the dharma centre not bring it outside the dharma centre.
But the teacher never tell u go tell Muslims that keeping sheep creates bad karma. Muslims dun believe in Karma.
It means that u should not critisize other ppl's religion even if u disagree with wad the religion teaches. Coming to Christian forum to critisize is wrong.
Even if u tell muslim abt killing sheep and karma, they wont believe. They will tell u the sheep slaughterer did nothing wrong and no bad karma is created.
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thats is why i like the family concept because it explains quite clearly salvation by grace for good works...but to understand the family concept, u need to put on the mind of a creationist...
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This thread getting out of point.
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something to get back to point... http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen06.html and er... It doesn't matter wat u think u believe in. It onli matter wat will become wif. U are not even require to believe mi. But it will be. Your heart will seek to be, if u really seek it be. Hahaha :)
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Originally posted by Hahaha:):
something to get back to point…
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen06….
and er… It doesn’t matter wat u think u believe in. It onli matter wat will become wif. U are not even require to believe mi. But it will be. Your heart will seek to be, if u really seek it be.
Hahaha
Interesting but most Christians will not believe because it is not taught in today's Christianity. -
Originally posted by Hahaha:):
something to get back to point…
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen06….
and er… It doesn’t matter wat u think u believe in. It onli matter wat will become wif. U are not even require to believe mi. But it will be. Your heart will seek to be, if u really seek it be.
Hahaha
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I am amuse that there is someone that prefers to believe in what he believe to be true rather then what the evidence had shown to be true as the truth...
Anyway, the good news is, you cannot deny the truth forever. It just a matter of time only before you realise the truth for yourself.