Scams used by christanity
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
I think U are the moron instead, since when Taoism do good things to their followers, it have proved to me that Taoism is an ineffective religion, and probably more marriage problems are Taoist / Buddhist (Because I right here know it). BTW, even if the statistics dont show so, that is because a Taoist / Buddhist is too hard to even get a marriage! And whats the next, they have to concentrate on their carrers, which is practical but in the end...... Still NOTHING !!! This is the time they should think either they should be a monk, convert to other religions, or continue as it is and become mad until ...... commit suicide as life sucks.
this is general knowledge. americans and europeans (mainly christians) have higher divorce rates than asians. there are statistics to prove. what you said are groundless with no statistics to back up. -
Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:
this is general knowledge. americans and europeans (mainly christians) have higher divorce rates than asians. there are statistics to prove. what you said are groundless with no statistics to back up.This is Singapore. So of course look @ Singapore. (In general knowledge of Singapore context, this is not true instead)
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Originally posted by Chester_Lim:
I happen to read this article on why some people convert to christanity and I want to point out the misconceptions that these people have.
Refer to the article down here
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_542107.html
I used to go to lots of temples and pray in my house. I did everything. But nothing happened,' she lets on.
The turning point came when colleagues invited her to a Christian discussion group, and the members touched her with their friendship and support.
'They will take care of me like I'm a princess. Wherever I go, they will call me 'ah noi' affectionately. They will ask 'ah noi, how are you?' and hug me. It's very loving,'' she says.
'Should I not appear in fellowship, they will come to my office and encourage me. And when they speak, they will speak what is in my heart.'
This is a total misconecption. When christians ask you to go to church or cell groups, it is because they want you to go to church and donate 10% of your salary every month to earn your money.
Only naive people will think that christians are being loving and encouraging when they are actually trying to cheat your money.
Other former Taoists speak of bafflement about getting explanations on dogma and itscomplex ritessuch as offering fruit to deities on the first and 15th day of every lunar month or burning incense paper on stipulated dates.
Christantiy also got alot of ruites to follow what such as confessing your sins, partaking of the bread and wine once a month etc.
These taoist people are just lazy to find out about their religion and use this excuse.
'I used to go to lots of temples and pray in my house. I did everything. But nothing happened,' she lets on.
The person who say this does not have a brain at all.
There are also alot of christians who everyday pray and nothing happen what. Just because they pray at the temple and nothing happen than they want to change religion shows that you are a complete moron
those taoists and buddhists who convert to other religion just because nothing happen are really crazy. nothing happen is better than something bad happen to them, isn't it ?
there was this old lady i knew who was a taoist but prayed to guanyin. after praying for years, she converted to christian because she also thought that nothing happen, her life remained unchanged (may be she was hoping to change for the better) .about 2 years after she converted, she died of sickness. when she prayed to guanyin, guanyin blessed her for not having her life changed for the worse. i wondered did she realise that at her last breath.
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Originally posted by hasene:
It is just not so simple as to ask question about if it is 13 units or not, it is the motive behind what they are asking for that counts. They asked this question for baiting for attack to non christian like me. If you read through the posts in this eternal hope forum you will know that the evil christians (excluding the one or two pleasant, mature spiritually christians) are here with mission to attack the non christians and not here for spreading the love of God. They are here to disgrace God.
OVer here the evil christians can just pick on anything that is of no good reason for attack. That is why when they question me I refuse to come out with words to reply them. I have read that they pose questions as a bait to get people to reply them thereafter start attack.
These are not true blue christians, they are here to satisfy themselves and not for the glory of God.
I do read some (not all) and I have past experiences with some mickey mouse hee and his dogdog gang. So I know what you are talking about. Only difference is that they are not christians, they are anti-christians.
I guess your purpose of posting the article is to show the lavish lifestyle of kong hee and sun ho which most of us already know and disagree with what they are doing. It does not matter if they have 1 or 13 units, every unit is one unit too much considering that this is likely not their only property.
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
This is Singapore. So of course look @ Singapore. (In general knowledge of Singapore context, this is not true instead)
please, singapore is so small, you should compare worldwide. have you heard of the story " the frog in a well". this story is about a frog who was trapped in the well and it could only see the sky which is the same size as the well. so it went round telling other frogs that the sky is only the size of the well but actually the sky is much much bigger than the well.
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Originally posted by Tehtarlek:
I do read some (not all) and I have past experiences with some mickey mouse hee and his dogdog gang. So I know what you are talking about. Only difference is that they are not christians, they are anti-christians.
I guess your purpose of posting the article is to show the lavish lifestyle of kong hee and sun ho which most of us already know and disagree with what they are doing. It does not matter if they have 1 or 13 units, every unit is one unit too much considering that this is likely not their only property.
You are right. I read somewhere they are staying in a posh private property in Sommerset.
It is not worth to give any donation to that church they are leading. I rather give to the needy ones we can see around us.
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Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:
those taoists and buddhists who convert to other religion just because nothing happen are really crazy. nothing happen is better than something bad happen to them, isn't it ?
there was this old lady i knew who was a taoist but prayed to guanyin. after praying for years, she converted to christian because she also thought that nothing happen, her life remained unchanged (may be she was hoping to change for the better) .about 2 years after she converted, she died of sickness. when she prayed to guanyin, guanyin blessed her for not having her life changed for the worse. i wondered did she realise that at her last breath.
Old Lady nia, I bet that even if she continues on the weak and false religions like Taoism will still die.
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Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:
please, singapore is so small, you should compare worldwide. have you heard of the story " the frog in a well". this story is about a frog who was trapped in the well and it could only see the sky which is the same size as the well. so it went round telling other frogs that the sky is only the size of the well but actually the sky is much much bigger than the well.
U want to compare with the world? Fine, but look, Asian is quite diverse, also got mainly Chrisitanity, Muslim and Atheist countries (From S.Korea & parts of South East Asia, Middle East + Central Asia along with the other parts of South East Asia and Communist / Socialist countires) on top with Buddhism / Taoism. In which country of Asia have u seen a mainly Buddhist / Taoist country? O -- Burma, Nepal, and Bhutan are mainly Buddhist, and indeed they are more happy (Minus political repression in Burma, which is OT) despite not a developed / developing country. So whats for Taoism?
And dont mention to me the weird looking country in South Asia (Very offensive)
I think Taoist majority place is only at Hong Kong and Taiwan, which is considered as a minority when you look at it as China as a whole.
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Originally posted by 24/7:
Good to know you can comprehend the article.
However, hasene did claim that the couple owned 13 units, as seen in the first page of this thread: http://www.sgforums.com/forums/1381/topics/402962
Cut and paste for your benefit.
3 different posts written by him on the same page, suggesting that he does believe that KH and wife owned 13 units of condo. more can be made available by just browsing the other threads on this forum.
The article does not support his conclusions, why is it that you can tell and he can't?
Other people have been trying to tell him the error of his interpretation, but have been accused by him of trolling and "attacking" him. I've pointed out his error cordially in the original thread and implored him to repent but to no avail.
Perhaps, he just does not want to acknowledge your claims. This explains why you never get an answer and never will. Also, he did explained that he feels that you "asked this question for baiting for attack to non christian like me. " He feels it is not to point out his misinterpretation but like a trap to attack him when he does admit his mistake. This is how I feel from what I read here.
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
U want to compare with the world? Fine, but look, Asian is quite diverse, also got mainly Chrisitanity, Muslim and Atheist countries (From S.Korea & parts of South East Asia, Middle East + Central Asia along with the other parts of South East Asia and Communist / Socialist countires) on top with Buddhism / Taoism. In which country of Asia have u seen a mainly Buddhist / Taoist country? O -- Burma, Nepal, and Bhutan are mainly Buddhist, and indeed they are more happy (Minus political repression in Burma, which is OT) despite not a developed / developing country. So whats for Taoism?
And dont mention to me the weird looking country in South Asia (Very offensive)
I think Taoist majority place is only at Hong Kong and Taiwan, which is considered as a minority when you look at it as China as a whole.
i'm not saying buddhists and taoists only, i group them under non-christians. by grouping them under non-chritians, it is easier to compare christians and non christians. go to yahoo and compare slowly if you are free.
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
Old Lady nia, I bet that even if she continues on the weak and false religions like Taoism will still die.
she was only 50+. i did not continue the story because it will further discredit other religion which i don't wish to.
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Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:
i'm not saying buddhists and taoists only, i group them under non-christians. by grouping them under non-chritians, it is easier to compare christians and non christians. go to yahoo and compare slowly if you are free.
The point is to compare Atheist, Non Chrisitians and Christians, is more appropirate.
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
The point is to compare Atheist, Non Chrisitians and Christians, is more appropirate.
2nd thought, no point comparing. how many people who claim to be christians, buddhists, taoists and so on are actually practicing what is being taught by their religions? the answer is, it is all humans fault, it has nothing to do with their religions if their marriage fails. -
Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
The point is to compare Atheist, Non Chrisitians and Christians, is more appropirate.
No wonder then we have anti-christians here creating trouble..... they seems to have no place in this world ! They may be small in numbers but they really are loud and filthy mouthed idiotic liars and pest to society.
Think should consider Atheist, Non Chrisitians, Christians and Anti-Christians.... at least then they feel they have a place somewhere and may help them get over feeling insecure...
But why Non Christians must be grouped leh? can they not stand on their own?
Maybe little fairy can enlighten...
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Originally posted by Tehtarlek:
Perhaps, he just does not want to acknowledge your claims. This explains why you never get an answer and never will. Also, he did explained that he feels that you "asked this question for baiting for attack to non christian like me. " He feels it is not to point out his misinterpretation but like a trap to attack him when he does admit his mistake. This is how I feel from what I read here.
you're quite right.
The weird thing was, i noticed his reaction was similar to the way rooney9 would react when caught out - smoke out or call upon judgment, fire & brimstone upon those who pointed out his error, be it Christian or non Christian. Why would a non Christian bait him too, unless he's truly wrong?
Considering i had never posted any argument against hasene before, I can't help but wonder if they're one and the same.
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Originally posted by Tehtarlek:
No wonder then we have anti-christians here creating trouble..... they seems to have no place in this world ! They may be small in numbers but they really are loud and filthy mouthed idiotic liars and pest to society.
Think should consider Atheist, Non Chrisitians, Christians and Anti-Christians.... at least then they feel they have a place somewhere and may help them get over feeling insecure...
But why Non Christians must be grouped leh? can they not stand on their own?
Maybe little fairy can enlighten...
I am not a Christian, but I am definitely not anti Chrisitian.
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Originally posted by Samuel Lee:
I am not a Christian, but I am definitely not anti Chrisitian.
I am not saying you are but there are.....and I just add on to your comments.
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Originally posted by laurence82:
its ok ah
if they cant attack u with facts, they attack u with character assasination, like what 24/7 like to do
carry balls, crying lar, all these kind of thing i hear from their foul mouth very often lar
just wanted to clarify, i called you a cock teaser, i didn't say you carried balls. BIG difference. It's a fact, not opinion. You act as if you want to destroy the forum but cannot follow through and usually end up posting something stupid, start flaming or stir trouble. By the way, stop using words that i've used on you back against me (e.g. ad hominem, character assassination). Unoriginal. Try to come up with new stuff, it adds more amusement to your posts.
I maintain my original response to you:
i didn't make the claim. you did. the onus of backing it up falls on you. don't shift your burden of proof to me.
first of all, calling a character assassin out on his game isn't character assassination. it's stating a fact that is relevant to this thread. In the same, calling a troll out isn't trolling because by definition, a troll is out to throw the thread off topic (as you are currently doing). By doing so, i'm alerting others to the presence of this undesirable element.
second of all, IF i had really started out, as you lied, by claiming the above, i would really have trolled but i didnt, since what i've started my foray into this thread is to approve of what ed88 posted.
if you're proud of being a troll, carry on by all means. i'm glad that you've come to terms with who or what you are, yet sad that you choose to continue at this level of existence.
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genuine mature spiritually christians will not use vulgarity. Vulagrity is a sin. Evil christians are not interested to talk to people by quoting bible verses they base on their evil desires, evil self to keep attacking people.
So me is no fool, i have been to enough churches, attend bible study, group meeting, mingle with christians to know who are the good and bad ones.
Evil christians carry a sword and a bible but the bible is only for show, they only use sword to kill.
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Twist and turn words and continous use of vulgarity and accusations are what the evil christians are best in doing. Bring in non christians hoping to put me in the bad light, hahahhaha. Unfortunately, all the non christians are attacked by the same person and he has the cheek to make use of them against me. wahahhahhaha, this is what we called in Chinese zhu ba jie zao jin li wai bu shi ren! When attacking on one issue can bring in other irrelevant issues to continue to attack. When it comes to attack , anything goes, this is typical of evil christians.
May they end up in hell and enjoy burn in the lake of fire. God detests evildoing! The Lord God wants all to repent and do his will obviously the evil christians refuse to obey God and continue with evildoing.
I go through the bible but cannot see the words "cock teaser" so I suppose God does not mean evil christians to use this word.
Evil ones will be punished and there is no way for them to escape. I will be laughing to see them to go hell. hahahahhahahahahah
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Originally posted by Tehtarlek:
No wonder then we have anti-christians here creating trouble..... they seems to have no place in this world ! They may be small in numbers but they really are loud and filthy mouthed idiotic liars and pest to society.
Think should consider Atheist, Non Chrisitians, Christians and Anti-Christians.... at least then they feel they have a place somewhere and may help them get over feeling insecure...
But why Non Christians must be grouped leh? can they not stand on their own?
Maybe little fairy can enlighten...
Please do not be offended, just asking what is your motive here in this forum. -
Originally posted by 24/7:
just wanted to clarify, i called you a cock teaser, i didn't say you carried balls. BIG difference. It's a fact, not opinion. You act as if you want to destroy the forum but cannot follow through and usually end up posting something stupid, start flaming or stir trouble. By the way, stop using words that i've used on you back against me (e.g. ad hominem, character assassination). Unoriginal. Try to come up with new stuff, it adds more amusement to your posts.
I maintain my original response to you:
i didnt say you say i carry balls
you say its a fact, i say its not, so what gives?
i dont have lift a finger to destroy this worthless forum...do you see people peacefully discussing gospel or have a theological debate?
i used your words (if any) is because it can be used on you
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Originally posted by Tehtarlek:
No wonder then we have anti-christians here creating trouble..... they seems to have no place in this world ! They may be small in numbers but they really are loud and filthy mouthed idiotic liars and pest to society.
Think should consider Atheist, Non Chrisitians, Christians and Anti-Christians.... at least then they feel they have a place somewhere and may help them get over feeling insecure...
But why Non Christians must be grouped leh? can they not stand on their own?
Maybe little fairy can enlighten...
christians are large in numbers because it is the easiest religion compare with other religion. believe and will go to heaven, don't have to do anything and whether you follow the teachings or not does not matter.
who cares whether non christians have a place on earth, large or small numbers. we only care whether our actions will have a place in heaven and not a place on earth.
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Originally posted by 24/7:
just wanted to clarify, i called you a cock teaser, i didn't say you carried balls. BIG difference. It's a fact, not opinion. You act as if you want to destroy the forum but cannot follow through and usually end up posting something stupid, start flaming or stir trouble. By the way, stop using words that i've used on you back against me (e.g. ad hominem, character assassination). Unoriginal. Try to come up with new stuff, it adds more amusement to your posts.
I maintain my original response to you:
what!!!! a copycat accusing people of being unoriginal
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Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:
christians are large in numbers because it is the easiest religion compare with other religion. believe and will go to heaven, don't have to do anything and whether you follow the teachings or not does not matter.
who cares whether non christians have a place on earth, large or small numbers. we only care whether our actions will have a place in heaven and not a place on earth.
and with that, the largest group of non-christian bashers