Dun believe then go eternal hell?
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
that said, didnt see you reply to my earlier question, why are you not commenting on the pastor thread? selective, you bet
of course side own people lar, what else.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
why do I want to waste my time on such rubbish and nonsense. in fact I couldnt bother with your silly questions. maybe it will be good if you ask somebody else here.
mate, that's the thing. I didn't ask you ANYTHING! I can't be bothered to because i'm certain you cannot answer anything at all. Experience has proven to me you've nothing of substance to contribute to any intelligent discussion at all.
From my post above, any idiot (now i shouldn't insult idiots by mentioning you and them in the same sentence) can see that I've addressed despondent, Badzmaro and TTFU. Nothing to you at all. You had to jump in with a brainless comment, "gee I cant believe what I am reading here. so this is what your rationale is based on"
Stop imagining things. Talk about being delusional.
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Originally posted by hasene:
Don't be discouraged , there are mature, pleasant and sound christians out there who are not in favour of what beng kia did.I couldnt bother with them, truth be told. I can stand people stupid, what I cant stand is stupid people trying to act smart or clever lar.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
that said, didnt see you reply to my earlier question, why are you not commenting on the pastor thread? selective, you bet
of course side own people lar, what
else.you really just read what you want to isn't it? I've already answered you.
now for your own sake, stop jumping to conclusions and although it's the practice of your worldview in general, make groundless assertions.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
I couldnt bother with them, truth be told. I can stand people stupid, what I cant stand is stupid people trying to act smart or clever lar.
now here, i'm addressing you ok? Just now, no. Learn.
Matthew 7:3, "Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?"
Bark away...
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
kinder and patient lol you can say that again. i seriously cant help laughing my ass off man. this is really funny to the max
uhhh... ok. the joke's actually on you but never mind, didn't think you could catch that. Anyway don't worry about laughing ur ass off, i'm sure your kah kia will be there to help pick it up for you along the way; they're having such great whiffs from it already.
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Why not lets go to other threads lol
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Originally posted by BadzMaro:
lol! I have lots of thoughts to share. I just worry my fellow trolls cant handle it. Even as fellow trolls I am shunned. Because I think differently and have a brain.They talk with thier jibber jabber and high pitched voice, while I ponder, "are they speaking in english?" As I speak in a coherent and logical manner, they cannot except it. Its language they dont understand.
I felt like.. I was talking to rocks. So , like the chinese idiom of turning stone into a needle, I shall hammer the rocks.. hammer it. Hammer it until it breaks.
i know how it feels! *thumps chest*
but alas, i'm not as patient and kind as you. I wouldn't use logic with some of them since they don't seem to be quite acquainted with it at all. They can't even begin to string together a coherent argument or present any logical thought. I'm tempted to say "at all" but i'm careful not to over generalize and i'd like to think there's still a glimmer of hope for them, no matter how faint.
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Originally posted by TTFU:
Why not lets go to other threads lol
i opine that the trolls have been tolerated long enough already. why not let's continue before we were (or rather, i was) distracted and get some sensible conversation going in this thread.
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Originally posted by 24/7:
i know how it feels! *thumps chest*
but alas, i'm not as patient and kind as you. I wouldn't use logic with some of them since they don't seem to be quite acquainted with it at all. They can't even begin to string together a coherent argument or present any logical thought. I'm tempted to say "at all" but i'm careful not to over generalize and i'd like to think there's still a glimmer of hope for them, no matter how faint.
I am patient because to hammer rocks, one needs to be patient. I learn from my fellow trolls. To be a troll. and to beat a troll, one has to BE a trolll. Like Luke Skywalker, to master the darkside of the force, he has to succumb to it.The word "coherent" and "logic" does not seem to compute for them. I often wonder if they even understand the word.. "understand". I have been waiting for the supposedly "questions" and "answers" that were asked or given.
Yes, we cannot generalise. As tempted as it is... must resist such temptation. To give in.. is to lose ones self. We must believe that there is still the possibility .. for them to be able to "understand".
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Originally posted by 24/7:
i know how it feels! *thumps chest*
but alas, i'm not as patient and kind as you. I wouldn't use logic with some of them since they don't seem to be quite acquainted with it at all. They can't even begin to string together a coherent argument or present any logical thought. I'm tempted to say "at all" but i'm careful not to over generalize and i'd like to think there's still a glimmer of hope for them, no matter how faint.
use logic lol guffaws. you are already illogicfor pete's sake, stop trying hard to be smart because you aren't. stop trying to be someone you are not.
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Originally posted by Rooney9:
use logic lol guffaws. you are already illogicfor pete's sake, stop trying hard to be smart because you aren't. stop trying to be someone you are not.
wow.. i haven't heard this kind of talk since secondary school ... no wait, since primary school. is that the best u can come up with?
as i wrote in my post earlier, i'm not addressing you at all so make like a sook and cower away, as you've already done so before.
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Originally posted by 24/7:
wow.. i haven't heard this kind of talk since secondary school ... no wait, since primary school. is that the best u can come up with?
as i wrote in my post earlier, i'm not addressing you at all so make like a sook and cower away, as you've already done so before.
you have no idea what you are talking about to begin with. you are confused, very confused. I know it feels good talking abstract, but clearly you have no idea what you are trying to convey as you are confused and muddle-head.
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To 24/7...
there were times when i was addressing fairyfairy and rooney9 just interrupted like that...which is why i wanted to pm fairyfairy...sadly, she is not confortable wif pming, so i respect her wishes which also means i am restricted in the things i can share here wif her...
when i am nice to my detractors, u say i am too nice...then wad u want me to do? join them and slam them?
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Originally posted by despondent:
To 24/7...
there were times when i was addressing fairyfairy and rooney9 just interrupted like that...which is why i wanted to pm fairyfairy...sadly, she is not confortable wif pming, so i respect her wishes which also means i am restricted in the things i can share here wif her...
when i am nice to my detractors, u say i am too nice...then wad u want me to do? join them and slam them?
the atheist cannot perform objective testing without first presupposing an objective reality in the first place. the laws of nature don't work itself out over the years. the law of gravity existed way before it was discovered, it wasn't invented. same with the laws of logic - Aristotle discovered it, he didn't create it. So the question then is how do these laws come about? In a constantly changing universe, as the atheist has suggested, how does he account for universal, unchanging and immaterial laws?
ur kind because when they failed to answer your question according to the point, and move on other irrelevant topics, you grant them the leeway and indulge them in it. kind as in generous, not in the moral sense. there's nothing wrong in being nice to some people, but there has to be a limit - one should not throw pearls before swines.
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to 24/7
Actually, i did notice that most of them avoided some of my qns...but the qn abt law of nature was answered although u and i wouldnt find the answer satisfactory...tats besides the pt...they can/will easily ask us ''Who created God?'' and many christians will have no answer too...i do have a way of explaining that qn but my explanation does not answer the qn, rather it onli explains why the qn is flawed to begin wif...however, whether is is a flawed qn or not again depends on the definitions of certain key words which we will find both sides having diff definitions...
to me, ''who created God'' is like asking ''whats the value of infinity?'' however, some may qn...wad has qn 1 to do wif qn 2? to me and probably urself, they are related but many wun see it the same way as us...
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Originally posted by despondent:
to 24/7
Actually, i did notice that most of them avoided some of my qns...but the qn abt law of nature was answered although u and i wouldnt find the answer satisfactory...tats besides the pt...they can/will easily ask us ''Who created God?'' and many christians will have no answer too...i do have a way of explaining that qn but my explanation does not answer the qn, rather it onli explains why the qn is flawed to begin wif...however, whether is is a flawed qn or not again depends on the definitions of certain key words which we will find both sides having diff definitions...
to me, ''who created God'' is like asking ''whats the value of infinity?'' however, some may qn...wad has qn 1 to do wif qn 2? to me and probably urself, they are related but many wun see it the same way as us...
if god can be self exist and no need to be created, so can we humans. it just got to show that there is no need for creation for anything to exist, just like god.
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Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:
if god can be self exist and no need to be created, so can we humans. it just got to show that there is no need for creation for anything to exist, just like god.
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Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:
if god can be self exist and no need to be created, so can we humans. it just got to show that there is no need for creation for anything to exist, just like god.
god is the beginning.
if someone tells you A created god then you will ask who created A. it never ends.
that is exactly the reason why religion is based on faith. the faith that everything starts with god.
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Originally posted by dragg:
god is the beginning.
if someone tells you A created god then you will ask who created A. it never ends.
that is exactly the reason why religion is based on faith. the faith that everything starts with god.
that is why i don't believe in creator and creation. it is a never ending story if you believe in it. i believe we are self exist just like god.
however, i don't deny there are gods and goddess in all the religions. or else how come there are so many followers in all the religions, there must be some truth in all the religions. as you know we humans are very practical, if it is not true, the religions would have die off long ago. the question now is which god is the most powerful, god of all gods.
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Originally posted by despondent:
to 24/7
Actually, i did notice that most of them avoided some of my qns...but the qn abt law of nature was answered although u and i wouldnt find the answer satisfactory...tats besides the pt...they can/will easily ask us ''Who created God?'' and many christians will have no answer too...i do have a way of explaining that qn but my explanation does not answer the qn, rather it onli explains why the qn is flawed to begin wif...however, whether is is a flawed qn or not again depends on the definitions of certain key words which we will find both sides having diff definitions...
to me, ''who created God'' is like asking ''whats the value of infinity?'' however, some may qn...wad has qn 1 to do wif qn 2? to me and probably urself, they are related but many wun see it the same way as us...
this i gotta see... where? like i said, you're too generous / kind to allow them such concessions.
Who created God? Let's see, the general premises of this thought:
- Everything which has a beginning has a cause.
- The universe has a beginning.
- Therefore the universe has a cause.
Premise 1: Does the Christian God have a beginning? Nope. Genesis 1, "In the beginning, God..." - He's already existing. Other passages throughout the bible also tell us that He exists outside of time and that He made all things, including time and space.
Regarding the 2nd premise, God exists apart from the universe and transcends it. Is God part of the universe in a physical sense? Nope. Again, this premise doesn't apply to Him too.
No beginning, no cause, not part of the physical universe. So how is this question valid for the Christian God? The premises of this question don't even apply to Him.
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Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:
if god can be self exist and no need to be created, so can we humans. it just got to show that there is no need for creation for anything to exist, just like god.
what makes you think that humans are on the same level as God?
does this universe have a beginning?
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I **** off so many times in church toilets? but does God even care?
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u see. 24/7...u can understand where i am coming from and so do i understand wad u mean...but they wun cos its 2 very diff schools of tots...btw, fairyfairy avoided a qn i asked...wads the value of infinity?
she probably must be tinking...wad has the value of infinity got to do wif who created God? tats where ur pt on premises comes in, 24/7...the premises...wads our premises? do creationists and non-creationists have similar premises?