Church to co-own Suntec
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it's not a business organization.................more like a cult.................don't be surprised the clown goes into politics soon and then the Lee Family will go after him big time............
it's all a matter of a pretender leading mindless fools ...................if there's no money to be made as a pastor, no one would want to be a pastor...........
all about money............the moment this goon go into politics, he's a goner.............
i expect rentals to increase at Suntec............hopefully the Depression comes quickly and most of the shops at Suntec move out/go bust................pastor will cry................the Hong Kongers are already bailing out by selling a stake to this clown.
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apparently, Pastor Kong Hee withdraw himself from the church salary of 8k very long ago. He makes a living through his business. the church will definitely remain as a religious organization. I guess for religion, it's hard to force people to convert. everything is freewill. that goes for the 32000+ members in the church.
if they willingly raise 320million dollars for the new building, its their choice. i guess we can rest assure that shopping in Suntec won't be affected by the presence of the church.
Sun Ho is the first Singaporean to make it in hollywood, probably that's something we have to proud of. :) adding to all the disaster relief efforts and community service, i respect her. if you wanna be better, go help out in Haiti. hehheh.
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more biz in suntec
just imagine the number of members
foodcourt biz and watever
sure boom like crazy one..
but i still love going to suntec
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Originally posted by Great Heavens!:
apparently, Pastor Kong Hee withdraw himself from the church salary of 8k very long ago. He makes a living through his business. the church will definitely remain as a religious organization. I guess for religion, it's hard to force people to convert. everything is freewill. that goes for the 32000+ members in the church.
if they willingly raise 320million dollars for the new building, its their choice. i guess we can rest assure that shopping in Suntec won't be affected by the presence of the church.
Sun Ho is the first Singaporean to make it in hollywood, probably that's something we have to proud of. :) adding to all the disaster relief efforts and community service, i respect her. if you wanna be better, go help out in Haiti. hehheh.
MINDLESS GOONS of CITY HARVEST CHURCH......................please WAKE UP.................you people have been asleep and misled for far too long............
it's obvious you're either the pastor or Sun Ho..............if not, then you're one of the mindless goons at their church that's still in dreamland..............
obviously with the money the pastor's got from his business (no prize for guessing where the additional capital comes from), he can give up his salary to ''look good''..................8K salary............looks like those guys are wasting their time in university.............the church is the place to be...........
the pastor can use his connections with 33,000 mindless goons to expand his business...............
as for Sun Ho................going to Haiti was just a ploy..............anyway, i don't even want to bother talking about her................recalling her face right now make me wanna puke my guts out....................
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Religion is a Big Biz now liao
can earn so much monie just by preaching
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maybe should consider opening a church also.
think better go look for my 40 yrs old bible
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Originally posted by As romanista2001:
MINDLESS GOONS of CITY HARVEST CHURCH......................please WAKE UP.................you people have been asleep and misled for far too long............
it's obvious you're either the pastor or Sun Ho..............if not, then you're one of the mindless goons at their church that's still in dreamland..............
obviously with the money the pastor's got from his business (no prize for guessing where the additional capital comes from), he can give up his salary to ''look good''..................8K salary............looks like those guys are wasting their time in university.............the church is the place to be...........
the pastor can use his connections with 33,000 mindless goons to expand his business...............
as for Sun Ho................going to Haiti was just a ploy..............anyway, i don't even want to bother talking about her................recalling her face right now make me wanna puke my guts out....................
Pastor Kong or Sun would probably won't be wasting their time with you. You're talking to a proud member of City Harvest Church.
"the pastor can use his connections with 33,000 mindless goons to expand his business..............."
This is a weak statement with nothing to prove.
"Sun Ho going to Haiti was just a ploy"
By ploy, you mean? The fact is, she was there, she helped. You don't have to think too deeply into this. God bless you.
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you're still in dreamland lor..................you won't awake even when you know what i said is true...........
maybe you can enlighten me...........why Sun Ho become a pop singer ? even though she can only sing slightly better than a toad............dance slightly better than a crippled penguin.............and all the while looking remarkably like a horse ?
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Originally posted by As romanista2001:
it's not a business organization.................more like a cult.................don't be surprised the clown goes into politics soon and then the Lee Family will go after him big time............
it's all a matter of a pretender leading mindless fools ...................if there's no money to be made as a pastor, no one would want to be a pastor...........
all about money............the moment this goon go into politics, he's a goner.............
i expect rentals to increase at Suntec............hopefully the Depression comes quickly and most of the shops at Suntec move out/go bust................pastor will cry................the Hong Kongers are already bailing out by selling a stake to this clown.
no one will go after him. didn't you guys hear the rumours? go and find out yourself.
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Reasons Not to Have Religion
1. Spirituality for dummies.
If you have the awareness level of a snail, and your thinking is mired in shame and guilt (with perhaps a twist of drug abuse or suicidal thinking), then subscribing to a religion can help you climb to a higher level of awareness. Your mindset, however, still remains incredibly dysfunctional; you’ve merely swapped one form of erroneous thinking for another.
For reasonably intelligent people who aren’t suffering from major issues with low self-esteem, religion is ridiculously consciousness-lowering. While some religious beliefs can be empowering, on the whole the decision to formally participate in a religion will merely burden your mind with a hefty load of false notions.
When you subscribe to a religion, you substitute nebulous group-think for focused, independent thought. Instead of learning to discern truth on your own, you’re told what to believe. This doesn’t accelerate your spiritual growth; on the contrary it puts the brakes on your continued conscious development. Religion is the off-switch of the human mind.
Leave the mythology behind, and learn to think for yourself. Your intellect is a better instrument of spiritual growth than any religious teachings.
2. Loss of spiritual depth perception.
One of the worst mistakes you can make in life is to attach your identity to any particular religion or philosophy, such as by saying “I am a Christian” or “I am a Buddhist.” This forces your mind into a fixed perspective, robbing you of spiritual depth perception and savagely curtailing your ability to perceive reality accurately. If that sounds like a good idea to you, you’ll probably want to gouge out one of your eyeballs too. Surely you’ll be better off with a single, fixed perspective instead of having to consider two separate image streams… unless of course you’ve become attached to stereo vision.
Religious “truths” are inherently rooted in a fixed perspective, but real truth is perspective-independent. When you substitute religious teachings for truth, you mistake shadows for light sources. Consequently, you doom yourself to stumble around in the dark, utterly confused. Clarity remains forever elusive, and the best answer you get is that life is one giant mystery. Religious mysteries, however, arise not from what is truly unknowable; they arise from the limitations of trying to understand reality from a fixed frame of reference.
A more intelligent approach is to consider reality through a variety of different perspectives without trying to force your perceptions into an artificial religious framework.
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Originally posted by Fairyfairy86:
no one will go after him. didn't you guys hear the rumours? go and find out yourself.
you mean he's another of LKY's relatives ? if not, tell us the reason lah............
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3. Engineered obedience training.
Religions are authoritarian hierarchies designed to dominate your free will. They’re power structures that aim to convince you to give away your power for the benefit of those who enjoy dominating people. When you subscribe to a religion, you enroll in a mindless minion training program. Religions don’t market themselves as such, but this is essentially how they operate.
Religions are very effective at turning human beings into sheep. They’re among the most powerful instruments of social conditioning. They operate by eroding your trust in your own intellect, gradually convincing you to put your trust into some external entity, such as a deity, prominent figure, or great book. Of course these instruments are usually controlled by those who administrate the minion training program, but they don’t have to be. Simply by convincing you to give your power away to something outside yourself, religion will condition you to be weaker, more docile, and easier to control. Religions actively promote this weakening process as if it were beneficial, commonly branding it with the word faith. What they’re actually promoting is submission.
Religions strive to fill your head with so much nonsense that your only recourse is to bow your head in submission, often quite literally. Get used to spending a lot of time on your knees because acts of submission such as bowing and kneeling are frequently incorporated into religious practice. Canine obedience training uses similar tactics. Now say, “Yes, Master.”
Have you ever wondered why religious teachings are invariably mysterious, confusing, and internally incongruent? This is no accident by the way — it’s quite intentional.
By putting forth confusing and internally conflicting information, your logical mind (i.e. your neocortex) is overwhelmed. You try in vain to integrate such contradictory beliefs, but it can’t be done. The net effect is that your logical mind disengages because it can’t find a pattern of core truth beneath all the nonsense, so without the help of your neocortex, you devolve to a more primitive (i.e. limbic) mode of thinking. You’re taught that this faith-based approach is a more spiritual and conscious way to live, but in reality it’s precisely the opposite. Getting you to distrust your own cerebral cortex actually makes you dumber and easier to manipulate and control. Karl Marx was right when he said, “Religion is the opiate of the people.”
For example, the Old Testament and the New Testament in the Bible frequently contradict each other with various rules of conduct, yet both are quoted during mass. Church leaders also behave in direct violation of the Church’s teachings, such as by covering up criminal and immoral activities by their own priests. Those who try to mentally process such glaring contradictions as coherent truth invariably suffer for it. A highly conscious person would reject membership in such an organization as patently ridiculous. So-called divine mysteries are engineered to be incomprehensible. You aren’t meant to ever make sense of them since that would defeat the whole purpose. When you finally wake up and realize it’s all B.S., you’ve taken the first step towards freedom from this oppressive system.
The truth is that so-called religious authorities don’t know any more about spirituality than you do. However, they know how to manipulate your fear and uncertainty for their own benefit. How nice of you to let them.
Although the most popular religions are very old, L. Ron Hubbard proved the process can be replicated from scratch in modern times. As long as there are large numbers of people who fear the responsibility of their own power, religions will continue to dominate the landscape of human development.
If you want to talk to God, then communicate directly instead of using third-party intermediaries. Surely God has no need of an interpreter. Don’t fall into the trap of becoming a mindless minion. It’s a mistake to think that turning off your neocortex and practicing mindless “faith” will bring you closer to God. In truth it will only bring you closer to dog.
4. Toilet-bowl time management.
If you devote serious time to the practice of religion, it’s safe to say you practice toilet-bowl time management, flushing much of your precious life down the drain with little or nothing to show for it.
First, you’ll waste a lot of time filling your head with useless nonsense. This includes reading some of the worst fiction ever written. Then there are various rules, laws, and practices to learn.
Seriously, if you have insomnia, try reading religious texts before bedtime. You’ll be asleep faster than you can say Methuselah. Why do you think hotels put Bibles next to the bed? It’s the greatest sedative known to man. I have to give props to the Scientologists for at least incorporating space aliens into their stories. It’s a shame Gene Roddenberry didn’t formally invent his own religion; Stovokor sounds like a lot of fun.
Once you finally realize your head has been filled with utter nonsense, you must then purge such garbage from your mind if you want your brain to be functional again. That can take considerably longer, assuming you succeed at all. It’s like trying to uninstall AOL from your hard drive.
Next, you can expect to waste even more time on repetitive ritual and ceremony, such as attending mass, learning prayers, and practicing unproductive meditations.
If I add up the time I attended mass and Sunday school, studied religion in school as if it were a serious subject, and memorized various prayers, I count thousands of hours of my life I’d love to have back. I did, however, learn some important lessons, many of which are being shared in this article.
I especially remember listening to a lot of bad sermons; most priests are hideously poor speakers. Maybe it’s because they drink alcohol while on duty.
Now if you really go overboard and throw in learning a dead language for good measure, you can kiss years of your life goodbye.
The more time you devote to religious practice, the more you waste your life on pointless, dead-end pursuits… and the more you’ll want to delude yourself with a phony “Hehe, I meant to do that” attitude.
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Still got 6 more points, anyone?
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Originally posted by eagle:
A question seen in CNA forum
Will CHC go IPO?
Good idea.
All their members can finally become legal shareholders of the company.
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The h faced he yeow sun is not the first to make it to Hollywood. Lim Kay Tong was there before her.
Going to Haiti does not prove one is better or worse than h faced sun. I am not interested to follow her footsteps.
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Originally posted by As romanista2001:
it's not a business organization.................more like a cult.................don't be surprised the clown goes into politics soon and then the Lee Family will go after him big time............
it's all a matter of a pretender leading mindless fools ...................if there's no money to be made as a pastor, no one would want to be a pastor...........
all about money............the moment this goon go into politics, he's a goner.............
i expect rentals to increase at Suntec............hopefully the Depression comes quickly and most of the shops at Suntec move out/go bust................pastor will cry................the Hong Kongers are already bailing out by selling a stake to this clown.
In one of my posts I mentioned yee kong could be our future PM.
This man is overly ambitious as a Christian.
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Any shopping discount cards to issue to members of CHC? Where is the office of CHC in Suntec?
I go pray Property God outside their unit to bless them. Giggles!!!!
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Originally posted by Dondontan:
Any shopping discount cards to issue to members of CHC? Where is the office of CHC in Suntec?
I go pray Property God outside their unit to bless them. Giggles!!!!
nooffice in tower 2 if i not wrong
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Originally posted by noahnoah:
nooffice in tower 2 if i not wrong
Where in Tower 2?Later they going to set up CHC Property, CHC Bank, CHC Tours, CHC Money Exchange, CHC Food Court, CHC Restaurant, CHC Fastfood, CHC Bakery, CHC Taxi, CHC Information Counter, CHC Bak Kua, CHC Toilet Papers, CHC Sanitary Pads, CHC Condoms and you may want to add on .
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Originally posted by Dondontan:
Where in Tower 2?Later they going to set up CHC Property, CHC Bank, CHC Tours, CHC Money Exchange, CHC Food Court, CHC Restaurant, CHC Fastfood, CHC Bakery, CHC Taxi, CHC Information Counter, CHC Bak Kua, CHC Toilet Papers, CHC Sanitary Pads, CHC Condoms and you may want to add on .
very soon going to beshort listed on the Singapore stock exchange
if So better buy a few lots
sure earn one
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Originally posted by noahnoah:
very soon going to beshort listed on the Singapore stock exchange
if So better buy a few lots
sure earn one
That means they have to get into business and get more funds from church members to be accountable to their shareholders.Huat ah!!!!
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Originally posted by Great Heavens!:
apparently, Pastor Kong Hee withdraw himself from the church salary of 8k very long ago. He makes a living through his business. the church will definitely remain as a religious organization. I guess for religion, it's hard to force people to convert. everything is freewill. that goes for the 32000+ members in the church.
if they willingly raise 320million dollars for the new building, its their choice. i guess we can rest assure that shopping in Suntec won't be affected by the presence of the church.
Sun Ho is the first Singaporean to make it in hollywood, probably that's something we have to proud of. :) adding to all the disaster relief efforts and community service, i respect her. if you wanna be better, go help out in Haiti. hehheh.
It's not hard to force people to convert, it's hard to convince people to convert.
There is a bloody difference if you don't know.
How hard is it to force people to convert (negatating the outcome)? In the past, the Roman Church forced "Pagans" to convert or die by the sword, Islam was spread by Muslim leaders who pretty much used the same tactics. In today's it's "toned" down a bit.
Sun Ho made it in Hollywood? Did she? In what sense? Or is it an inside joke within CHC that she made it? Should I laugh? LOL!!!
Fann Wong was the first Singaporean who made it, she was casted in a Hollywood movie. Not that I'm a fan of any local stars, Mediacorp sux.
In 2002, Fann became the first Singaporean actress to play a major role in a Hollywood production as Chon Lin in Shanghai Knights.
Where did you get your information that Sun Ho is the first? From CHC?
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Sun's Fan Club office in Suntec City?
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Originally posted by RoyFang:
It's not hard to force people to convert, it's hard to convince people to convert.
There is a bloody difference if you don't know.
How hard is it to force people to convert (negatating the outcome)? In the past, the Roman Church forced "Pagans" to convert or die by the sword, Islam was spread by Muslim leaders who pretty much used the same tactics. In today's it's "toned" down a bit.
Sun Ho made it in Hollywood? Did she? In what sense? Or is it an inside joke within CHC that she made it? Should I laugh? LOL!!!
Fann Wong was the first Singaporean who made it, she was casted in a Hollywood movie. Not that I'm a fan of any local stars, Mediacorp sux.
Where did you get your information that Sun Ho is the first? From CHC?
h faced Sun only appeared in MV with American Black singers and that to some is entered Hollywood.
Lim Kay Tong was before Fann, I think.
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Sun wHOre in SunTec.........sounds catchy, no wonder they buy a stake.............or is it Sun HOrse..........
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Originally posted by Dondontan:
h faced Sun only appeared in MV with American Black singers and that to some is entered Hollywood.
Lim Kay Tong was before Fann, I think.
i think it was more like Whore-lywood................