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Originally posted by breytonhartge:
actually Yeshua did not say that the Pharisees got it wrong entirely, He said that they kept Torah, but failed to pay more attention to the weightier matters of Torah... Yeshua also said this about the Pharisees... Matthew 5:20
For I say to you, that unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.yeah..what i meant was that JC was rebuking the pharisees on placing more importance to useless trivia traditions than the actual worship of God according to His standards..eg..divorcing wife cuz she burnt your supper VS God's standard of only adultery is grounds for divorce..
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
yeah..what i meant was that JC was rebuking the pharisees on placing more importance to useless trivia traditions than the actual worship of God according to His standards..eg..divorcing wife cuz she burnt your supper VS God's standard of only adultery is grounds for divorce..
yup.
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Originally posted by Servant:
Thanks much for your support and affirmation dear Sikoyo, completely agree with you. I guess this is an "occupational hazard" of the faith huh?
Mark 7:7
And in vain they worship Me,Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’Mark 7:9
He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition. -
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:
Bro we stick to our weekly masses, brey sticks to his own worship. At the end of our lives...we will come before God on the day of judgement. will we still be arguing then who's right & who's wrong in front of our creator? :)
Also wanted to share this website, I like how it clears up so much misinformation about the Catholic church in a gentle, logical and interesting manner, like a FAQ. We can only hope and pray that with His grace, our friends out there come to understand the beauty and truth of the faith a bit more
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Originally posted by Servant:
Also wanted to share this website, I like how it clears up so much misinformation about the Catholic church in a gentle, logical and interesting manner, like a FAQ. We can only hope and pray that with His grace, our friends out there come to understand the beauty and truth of the faith a bit more
and we hope you will come to see the truth of the bible and understand the ways of Yahweh and not follow blind religion.
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Originally posted by Servant:
Also wanted to share this website, I like how it clears up so much misinformation about the Catholic church in a gentle, logical and interesting manner, like a FAQ. We can only hope and pray that with His grace, our friends out there come to understand the beauty and truth of the faith a bit more
read the site..found out that i read it before..hislop was wrong when he called RCC the harlot of babylon as stated in revelations..that harlot is the whole false religion system (including but not limitted to RCC)..babylon is the current political system worldwide..
and the website mainly attacked hislop the fool..it mentioned altars which are ok..the what and the how to worship are ok but the who is wrong..that statement is very wrong in itself..just because an alter is raised doesnt mean it is right..many pagans used undesirable items in worship..some even have sex in front of a deity idol..so does it mean if i make an altar 1st..then i will be right and i direct it to God??no way right?
in the site was stated also how evans attacked RCC as regards to symbols and how they themselves used symbols..in fact the music mentioned had roots from unclean sources..meaning the evans are wrong too..people needing to use symbols to use as prayer aid is total bullshit..i dont see JWs using any symbols..and they still pray effectively..
these are but some of the points that i randomly selected..
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Originally posted by breytonhartge:
and we hope you will come to see the truth of the bible and understand the ways of Yahweh and not follow blind religion.
How are u so sure it isn't the other way round? :)
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Originally posted by breytonhartge:
don't need to argue about that one... one of us will be right and the other wrong I guess... so we will see. or we could both be wrong... ; )
perhaps...but most importantly is there we are all bros in His name.
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Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:
perhaps...but most importantly is there we are all bros in His name.
who's name? certainly not the god of the christian. I don't know who he is. all depends on how loosely you want to use the term.. .because according to your definition, muslims are also your brother...
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Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:
How are u so sure it isn't the other way round? :)
100% with no doubt in my mind
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
read the site..found out that i read it before..hislop was wrong when he called RCC the harlot of babylon as stated in revelations..that harlot is the whole false religion system (including but not limitted to RCC)..babylon is the current political system worldwide..
and the website mainly attacked hislop the fool..it mentioned altars which are ok..the what and the how to worship are ok but the who is wrong..that statement is very wrong in itself..just because an alter is raised doesnt mean it is right..many pagans used undesirable items in worship..some even have sex in front of a deity idol..so does it mean if i make an altar 1st..then i will be right and i direct it to God??no way right?
in the site was stated also how evans attacked RCC as regards to symbols and how they themselves used symbols..in fact the music mentioned had roots from unclean sources..meaning the evans are wrong too..people needing to use symbols to use as prayer aid is total bullshit..i dont see JWs using any symbols..and they still pray effectively..
these are but some of the points that i randomly selected..
there are many things that can be said to refute the claims on that website that servant posted... just don't know if it is even worth the time to.
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Originally posted by breytonhartge:
there are many things that can be said to refute the claims on that website that servant posted... just don't know if it is even worth the time to.
lol..yeah..many many points..my take is that so long as it is being refute with the truth..people will eventually see the truth and thus be saved..
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
lol..yeah..many many points..my take is that so long as it is being refute with the truth..people will eventually see the truth and thus be saved..
we can only pray and hope that they will.
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Originally posted by breytonhartge:
we can only pray and hope that they will.
by the will of Allah..they will...oops..i meant God..
well, as in the book of revelations..the great day of Jehovah is very near..meaning that the truth will be out very soon..this wicked system of things will come to a pass very soon..the world of false religions, the great harlot of babylon shall soon by killed by the great beast..
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
by the will of Allah..they will...oops..i meant God..
well, as in the book of revelations..the great day of Jehovah is very near..meaning that the truth will be out very soon..this wicked system of things will come to a pass very soon..the world of false religions, the great harlot of babylon shall soon by killed by the great beast..
don't play play ok? : )
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Originally posted by breytonhartge:
don't play play ok? : )
then pray pray lor..cuz now only pray and actions in line with His ways will help..
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
I neither trust the church nor the bible as I can't even trust god.
Of course it's understandable. You know neither the church nor the bible nor God. And you are not looking to know either too. -
Originally posted by domonkassyu:
by the will of Allah..they will...oops..i meant God..
well, as in the book of revelations..the great day of Jehovah is very near..meaning that the truth will be out very soon..this wicked system of things will come to a pass very soon..the world of false religions, the great harlot of babylon shall soon by killed by the great beast..
I wish I would have a share in the coming kingdom. It is written whoever entered the kingdom of God would rule as kings with Christ. Many people don't realize in the end the chosen ones will be rewarded not only with eternal life but also with power to rule. Not the puny power of the kingdom of men today but the kind of power that would make any other people envious . . .kings of men included.
The keyword of God is: authority and power, mighty power to rule.
Men of this world lie, cheat, betray, plot, kill, and go to wars for power....power that they are only going to have for a very short time. Power that is actually so little...then they all fall into nothingness they become nothing, all their accomplishments and glory become nothing, useless to them, even when the whole world knew their names and worshiped them they are nothing now. Nothing. And this is only half of the story . . .worse far far worse would fall unto some of them in the day of the Lord's reckoning. The worst part is they wouldn't even realize when they are in the better period of their time in death. -
Originally posted by breytonhartge:
who's name? certainly not the god of the christian. I don't know who he is. all depends on how loosely you want to use the term.. .because according to your definition, muslims are also your brother...
To me Jesus/Yeshua is the same person, but i will use the name Yeshua to reply u to prevent further confusion.
all mankind are bros...regardless of religion & race. was it not Yeshua command: Love one another as i have loved you. u think He meant only love the ones u wish to love?
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Originally posted by breytonhartge:
100% with no doubt in my mind
100% in YOUR mind of cos, unless u can get everyone to agree wif wat u said.
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Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:
To me Jesus/Yeshua is the same person, but i will use the name Yeshua to reply u to prevent further confusion.
all mankind are bros...regardless of religion & race. was it not Yeshua command: Love one another as i have loved you. u think He meant only love the ones u wish to love?
no I don't think you should because your jesus is NOT my Yeshua.
Yet you fail to observe the main commandment, and what does the bible say I desire obedience and not sacrifice, but have you obeyed??
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Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:
100% in YOUR mind of cos, unless u can get everyone to agree wif wat u said.
it had better be otherwise I would be walking my path for nothing... besides you did ask whether I was sure... ; )... you are funny...
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Originally posted by breytonhartge:
no I don't think you should because your jesus is NOT my Yeshua.
Yet you fail to observe the main commandment, and what does the bible say I desire obedience and not sacrifice, but have you obeyed??
u are getting more & more difficult to communicate :)
and how do u judge i failed to observe the main commandment?
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Originally posted by breytonhartge:
it had better be otherwise I would be walking my path for nothing... besides you did ask whether I was sure... ; )... you are funny...
You are funny too :)
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Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:
u are getting more & more difficult to communicate :)
and how do u judge i failed to observe the main commandment?
how have you failed? have not domon and myself already pointed so many things out to you yet you cannot see?