simplified bible
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
Simplified bible or not, just crap la! why even bother to start such hopeless topic
oh..because you humans thrive on hope no matter how tiny or false that hope is...fan today why so upset?
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Jesus was always very careful to distinguish His relationship with the Father from the relationship His disciples had with the Father. He never addressed God as “our Father” in reference to Himself and the disciples, but rather addressed Him as “My Father” and “your Father.” This is significant to note because Jesus is God’s Son by nature; whereas, His disciples are God’s sons by adoption (John 1:12). As the “Son of God,” Jesus has the same nature as God (John 5:18, 19:7), but in the incarnation, Jesus took on the nature of man and thus became the “Son of Man.” While in His Divine nature, Jesus still has all the power and authority of God, it is in his human nature that Jesus refers to the Father as His God.
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
oh..because you humans thrive on hope no matter how tiny or false that hope is...fan today why so upset?
don;t keeping pointing fingers ok. why emphasize on unimportant stuff like the bible. There are more important issues to talk about than the bible, god and blah blah, blah. -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
don;t keeping pointing fingers ok. why emphasize on unimportant stuff like the bible. There are more important issues to talk about than the bible, god and blah blah, blah.i was refering to humans as a whole..thats why i said you humans..seriously..you seem upset..
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
oh..because you humans thrive on hope no matter how tiny or false that hope is...fan today why so upset?
lol you talk as though you are some divine or non humans
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I tot TS would put something like...
"God created everything; God loves everyone."
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Originally posted by don1266:
Jesus was always very careful to distinguish His relationship with the Father from the relationship His disciples had with the Father. He never addressed God as “our Father” in reference to Himself and the disciples, but rather addressed Him as “My Father” and “your Father.” This is significant to note because Jesus is God’s Son by nature; whereas, His disciples are God’s sons by adoption (John 1:12). As the “Son of God,” Jesus has the same nature as God (John 5:18, 19:7), but in the incarnation, Jesus took on the nature of man and thus became the “Son of Man.” While in His Divine nature, Jesus still has all the power and authority of God, it is in his human nature that Jesus refers to the Father as His God.
the difference is yes..Jesus was similiar in nature..as he too is a spirit since anything else was created..the prehuman form of Jesus..the only begotten son..humans are sons and daughters of God because they were repurchased by the blood of Jesus..in his divine nature..yes..he was fully authorized by Jehovah/Yahweh to act.in short..God = President, Jesus = vice President..its just that simple..God cannot die...if he were to take a human form like the angels and die..he go against his principle..by using an uncreated Being like God to repurchase creatures, humans, thats over priced..God is fair..so he constrained himself in so many things to make it fair..so he had to transfer Jesus down to earth with Jesus' willingness to redeem humans...there is also a hughe risk that as as human, Jesus might sin against God but God trusts him and Jesus love his father...
even in revelation..Jesus who is already back in heaven..having his spirit form..he still subject himself to God..and if God and Jesus are the same person..than Jesus cannot be exalted to an even higher position..God is already the highest..how else will Jesus be exalted if he is God??but God can exalt Jesus because they are 2 different persons..
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Originally posted by marcteng:
lol you talk as though you are some divine or non humans
hehe...divine no..non humans..most probably..mei ren xing..chu sheng..and the likes..
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Originally posted by caleb_chiang:
I tot TS would put something like...
"God created everything; God loves everyone."
im just focusing on points which many people thought they know but which they didnt..
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can anyone here explain to me, how is it possible that our earth was created by god in just 6 days? modern science has revealed that a planet need millions if not billions of years to be formed.
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Originally posted by marcteng:
can anyone here explain to me, how is it possible that our earth was created by god in just 6 days? modern science has revealed that a planet need millions if not billions of years to be formed.
dude..i explictly explained it in the thread....
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
dude..i explictly explained it in the thread....
where? can repeat -
Originally posted by marcteng:
where? can repeatthe 1st thread of this post..and no i dont wish to repeat...
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
the 1st thread of this post..and no i dont wish to repeat...
dun have leh? can summarise?
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Originally posted by marcteng:
dun have leh? can summarise?
.....to indulge you..the 6 days of creation is not literal 24hours per day as we know it..each of the 6 days is really a period of unknown time..in the bible itself when it was said the temple of jerusalem was to be rebuilt in so and so number of days..it wasnt literal 24hours too..so in the same light..creation is not done in 6 literal days but 6 periods of time which will then justify the age of the niverse and the age of earth and such as according to science...
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
i was refering to humans as a whole..thats why i said you humans..seriously..you seem upset..
Stop pointing fingers at me. You have your own prob, think you should solve your own prob before talking about the bible and other stuff. -
Originally posted by Fantagf:
Stop pointing fingers at me. You have your own prob, think you should solve your own prob before talking about the bible and other stuff.seriously..think you misutd me..it aint pointing fingers at you..my prob cant be solved anyway..
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
seriously..think you misutd me..it aint pointing fingers at you..my prob cant be solved anyway..
Then enjoy facing the consequences. -
Originally posted by domonkassyu:
.....to indulge you..the 6 days of creation is not literal 24hours per day as we know it..each of the 6 days is really a period of unknown time..in the bible itself when it was said the temple of jerusalem was to be rebuilt in so and so number of days..it wasnt literal 24hours too..so in the same light..creation is not done in 6 literal days but 6 periods of time which will then justify the age of the niverse and the age of earth and such as according to science...
thats the thing. if god is so powerful, why not god will the earth appear in an instant. you see my point?
anyway bible said 6 period of time and not 6 days?
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Originally posted by Fantagf:
Then enjoy facing the consequences.yep..which is what i have to bear..have you reported yours??better not drag it longer..or really wont have much effect..
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Originally posted by marcteng:
thats the thing. if god is so powerful, why not god will the earth appear in an instant. you see my point?
anyway bible said 6 period of time and not 6 days?
if he wanted to do it..he can..i guess..but what will it accomplish??and what difference does it make if it took 6 literal days or 6 periods of time??earth is still created..would it make anyone happier to know hey God created all in 6 literal days..woot..
bible said 6 days..and most prob you will say if it says 6 days then it must be 6 literal days and not according to what i just explained..many things in the bible are symbolic..i did not come up with the explaination of days can refer to a period of time..the bible itself did..
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
if he wanted to do it..he can..i guess..but what will it accomplish??and what difference does it make if it took 6 literal days or 6 periods of time??earth is still created..would it make anyone happier to know hey God created all in 6 literal days..woot..
bible said 6 days..and most prob you will say if it says 6 days then it must be 6 literal days and not according to what i just explained..many things in the bible are symbolic..i did not come up with the explaination of days can refer to a period of time..the bible itself did..
seems like u r defending the inconsistencies of the bible. enuff said.
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Originally posted by domonkassyu:
if he wanted to do it..he can..i guess..but what will it accomplish??and what difference does it make if it took 6 literal days or 6 periods of time??earth is still created..would it make anyone happier to know hey God created all in 6 literal days..woot..
bible said 6 days..and most prob you will say if it says 6 days then it must be 6 literal days and not according to what i just explained..many things in the bible are symbolic..i did not come up with the explaination of days can refer to a period of time..the bible itself did..
if its 6 days then its a fallacy. even an infant needs 9 mths to come out of the mother womb -
Originally posted by marcteng:
seems like u r defending the inconsistencies of the bible. enuff said.
well..guess it will make you happy if you know earth is made in 6 literal days..i would enjoy sharing information with you freely as i would to many others..inconsistences are not in the bible but from what men said of bible..
thats why creation cannot be 6 literal days..
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“…Are you not from long ago, O Jehovah? O my God, my Holy One, you do not die.”
HABAKKUK 1:12
One of the attributes of our immutable God is that He does not die. Yet, at Acts 2:27, 3:14, and John 6:69 we read that this “Holy One” is Jesus who, as foretold by David at Psalm 16:10, was to die but whose body would not “undergo decay.” How can this be? If the Holy One does not die, how can Jesus as the “Holy One” die? We can reconcile this by recognizing that according to Psalm 49:7, more was required than just a mere man to atone for the sins of mankind. Thus, it was necessary for Jehovah God to become man in the person of Christ in order to die and atone for the sins of the world. Although Jesus (in His human nature) had completely died, He (in His Divine nature) still possessed the power to raise Himself.
“...I lay down My life that I may take it again. No one has taken it away from Me, but I lay it down on My own initiative. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again.…Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”—John 10:17-18; 2:19