Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:Could we dispense with theology differences and just worship God and be brothers and sisters to one another?
In the end we all going to find out the universal truth. None of man made theological crap going to matter then anyway. There's only God that would prevail the test of time.
Let's not worship our religion or theological principles but let's worship God alone. For heaven sake we all could be wrong at some points and right at another points. No one really knows for sure. I've seen good Catholic priests who are full of the holy spirit and I've seen the not so good Ctaholic priest which I quite don't like. I've seen good Protestants and likewise I've seen the bad ones. If you really believe in one true God then we are all bothers and sisters of the same God despite our religion and our beliefs.
Could you imagine saved souls arguing one another about whose religion is better in heaven?
You see my point?
goin along your line..i would also urge christians,jews and muslims to stop fighting and all worship the God of abraham/ibrahim...
There is only one God no doubt..if we cant even identify him..who to worship him..how can you call someone your friend when you dont know him...thats why this thread is still on...it is near now..just a little longer and God will have a clear revelation that none can dispute...
Originally posted by breytonhartge:MP, the problem with your statement is if one wants to worship Yahweh, how do we do it, according to what the church teaches us or according to what He wants us to do? Problem is a cp full of holy spirit, is still a cp... if you get my drift... ultimately what one must come to is how Yahweh wants us to worship Him. How He wants us to follow Him, not what the church nor any man says about how we should follow or worship Him.
if one is a cp..he cannot be filled with holy spirit...he canonly possess good qualities with God love and therefore spare him from eternal destruction in sheoul...and lovingly correct the cp back into the other fold..
again you seems to be the only one to understand the point is how humans should worship God according to God's standards and not to some religious leader's standards..
Originally posted by breytonhartge:Yahweh is found of those who seek Him and there will always be a community of like minded people. So in short yes, He will have to teach me Himself because the church is NOT doing it.
The whole problem is that the church is NOT teaching what Yahweh wants... they are preaching things that are going against His commandments. There are so many teachings in the church that contradict what the bible says, now then if the bible is the word of Yawheh, who is right? man or G_d? The chruch is telling us how it thinks we should be worshipping our creator, where Yahweh already told us EXACTLY how He wants this to be done, yet is the church listening? Not only does the church not do what Yahweh wants, they create new things and ways of worship and force it upon Yahweh that it is how the church will worship Him, the audacity and the arrogance of it all.
doesnt it sounds exactly like the ancient pharisees in israel whom Jesus had rebuked and lovingly corrected??history is repeating itself..
keep asking and it shall be given..keep searching and it shall be found..the truth is lying there waiting for us..can we abandon human teachings in favor to God's ways??
Originally posted by despondent:let me qualify by saying tat i choose not to argue further wif marcteng not cos i cannot answer or have no answer but cos i noe its gonna be anther apple orange argument. there wil be no outcome cos we alredi have diff schools of understanding to begin wif...
=) schools can always be changed right??
Originally posted by breytonhartge:Sikoyo, who Yahweh is is clearly defined in the bible, what He wants us to do, how He wants us to worship, etc all defined... so how mystical can that be? It is so clear.
But the only thing i dun get it is if something is so straightfoward, why are there still so many people contesting logic which is so clear?
Originally posted by breytonhartge:Yahweh is found of those who seek Him and there will always be a community of like minded people. So in short yes, He will have to teach me Himself because the church is NOT doing it.
The whole problem is that the church is NOT teaching what Yahweh wants... they are preaching things that are going against His commandments. There are so many teachings in the church that contradict what the bible says, now then if the bible is the word of Yawheh, who is right? man or G_d? The chruch is telling us how it thinks we should be worshipping our creator, where Yahweh already told us EXACTLY how He wants this to be done, yet is the church listening? Not only does the church not do what Yahweh wants, they create new things and ways of worship and force it upon Yahweh that it is how the church will worship Him, the audacity and the arrogance of it all.
Bro actually wat's happening in ur church is not happening in my church. We are following the teachings as close to the bible as possible. Do u mind telling us or even pm-ing which church u attend? so at least we know its a crap-teaching church & we should all avoid going :D
Originally posted by domonkassyu:well, i cant emphasise enough that reading the bible is very important..by that i dont mean attending mass or whatever to listen to what other people tell you what certain bible says...i meant you take out you own bible and time and meditate what you are going to read in there..pray before you read and after...ask that you may understand him...God has lovingly provided what he wanna tell us through the bible...he does also protect us in daily life..he is only now difficult to understand because people has be mystifying him for the past 2000+ years from the creation of the church..and even before that by the jews..
God sent his only begotten son to clarify matters and witness for him 2000+ years ago..and he knows people through other types of influences will mess things up..but at least his main goal has been achieved..the redemption for humans..
also,always remember..satan always turn himself into an angel of light in order to mislead..
Bro agreed dat nowadays as christians, we are literally going further away from God in timeline. But i believe as long as we have Him & follow His commandments, He will always remained in our hearts.
All christians hav obligations to read the bible, but i guess everyone's different so we interprete the bible differently & it can be a dangerous thing if one will to perceive in a wrong manner. So i think this is where bible studies in churches come in handy.
But i will always wear holy glasses to see if the 'angel' is a fake, & i'll slash him with holy sword to deal higher damage :D
Originally posted by domonkassyu:make sure you got plenty of heart refresh or get a duplicator with the gold you got..stop watch burns hearts quickly...while you are at it..pass some of the gold to me please...hehehehe....
Sure, we'll duplicate everything till we become so powerful then we throw dracula & shaft off both castles & u take 1 castle i own the other. haha.
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:Bro actually wat's happening in ur church is not happening in my church. We are following the teachings as close to the bible as possible. Do u mind telling us or even pm-ing which church u attend? so at least we know its a crap-teaching church & we should all avoid going :D
Following exactly what Yahweh wants and as close as possible are two totally different things.
Car to elaborate about as close as possible?
Originally posted by breytonhartge:Following exactly what Yahweh wants and as close as possible are two totally different things.
Car to elaborate about as close as possible?
I wudn't dare to say my church is 100% following the bible as i mentioned in earlier posts dat the teachings of God in the original hebrew bible is being watered down the generations. So i can't be too sure to say we are exactly following God's teachings using the bible of today.
Bro u haven answer my questions yet as which church u attend dat are not following the teachings of today's bible? :)
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:I wudn't dare to say my church is 100% following the bible as i mentioned in earlier posts dat the teachings of God in the original hebrew bible is being watered down the generations. So i can't be too sure to say we are exactly following God's teachings using the bible of today.
Bro u haven answer my questions yet as which church u attend dat are not following the teachings of today's bible? :)
So if you are not following Yahweh's teachings exactly what happens?
Originally posted by breytonhartge:So if you are not following Yahweh's teachings exactly what happens?
I am following God's teachings as of today's bible :)
U still avoiding my question bro :)
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:I am following God's teachings as of today's bible :)
U still avoiding my question bro :)
the bible today is still the same as that which was written in the time of Yeshua, by that I mean the Tenakh is still the same. It is still the same scriptures which are referred to by Yeshua and Shaul etc... so are you really sure you are following the teaching of Yahweh.
If you not have figured out by now, I have left the church entirely, of every kind and form, I have been through it all and none of the christian churches teach the truth.
So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to live in him, rooted and built up in him, strengthened in the faith as you were taught, and overflowing with thankfulness.
See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ.
colossians 2:6-8
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:Bro agreed dat nowadays as christians, we are literally going further away from God in timeline. But i believe as long as we have Him & follow His commandments, He will always remained in our hearts.
All christians hav obligations to read the bible, but i guess everyone's different so we interprete the bible differently & it can be a dangerous thing if one will to perceive in a wrong manner. So i think this is where bible studies in churches come in handy.
But i will always wear holy glasses to see if the 'angel' is a fake, & i'll slash him with holy sword to deal higher damage :D
unless that "angel" is by shaft..or holy glasses might not work..and if its a fake angel..most prob holy is his element..so use mormegil..and wear holy mail to lessen dmg to u..
everyone is different..but the bible is the same..people contest this and that because of a 1000++ year old lie..
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:Sure, we'll duplicate everything till we become so powerful then we throw dracula & shaft off both castles & u take 1 castle i own the other. haha.
u can keep the inverted one..more % there to cover..
Originally posted by xalkyrie:So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to live in him, rooted and built up in him, strengthened in the faith as you were taught, and overflowing with thankfulness.
See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the basic principles of this world rather than on Christ.
colossians 2:6-8
yeah..xalkyrie just gave a good quote..hollow deceptive philosyphy of men in the church..siyoko...read on..you will see the light soon..
christians in this thread, does being God's creation equals being His children??? i am absolutely sure tat is not the case cos tat would imply tat even plants n animals r His children n tat would make the idea of a r/s wif Him redundant...
Originally posted by breytonhartge:the bible today is still the same as that which was written in the time of Yeshua, by that I mean the Tenakh is still the same. It is still the same scriptures which are referred to by Yeshua and Shaul etc... so are you really sure you are following the teaching of Yahweh.
If you not have figured out by now, I have left the church entirely, of every kind and form, I have been through it all and none of the christian churches teach the truth.
Hav u tried going to a catholic church? the catholic bible has 8 more chapters to the christian one.
Originally posted by domonkassyu:unless that "angel" is by shaft..or holy glasses might not work..and if its a fake angel..most prob holy is his element..so use mormegil..and wear holy mail to lessen dmg to u..
everyone is different..but the bible is the same..people contest this and that because of a 1000++ year old lie..
Hmm...then i probably i use crissaegrim to slash him to bits. haha.
Yah so sad right...we are all brothers in Christ & yet we are not at peace thru out the generations.
Originally posted by despondent:christians in this thread, does being God's creation equals being His children??? i am absolutely sure tat is not the case cos tat would imply tat even plants n animals r His children n tat would make the idea of a r/s wif Him redundant...
Genesis 1:26-27
God said: Let us make man in our own image, in the likeness of ourselves, and let them be masters of the fish of the sea, the birds of heaven, the cattle, all the wild beasts and all the reptiles that crawl upon the earth.
"God created man in the image of Himself, in the image of God he created him, male and female he created them."
Read the words in bold. Man are of a superior status as to animals & plants because we are created in God's image, so we are God's children & not animals & plants. When u are born, surely u look somewhat like ur parents right? :) so us being God's children are of no redundancy. read the bible first to understand.
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:Hav u tried going to a catholic church? the catholic bible has 8 more chapters to the christian one.
You are kidding me right?
Originally posted by breytonhartge:You are kidding me right?
The Catholic Bible retained the books dat were removed a century or two after the Reformation by the Protestants. The books were known as the 'Apocrophya'. To be precise...the protestants and evangelicals do not keep them as of today. They are: Tobias, Judith, the Wisdom of Solomon, Baruch, and Maccabees 1-2.
The Apocryphon of John, the book christians do not want people to talk about because it claimed to destroy every major doctrine of christianity, were also missing...and it was said to be about Jesus Christ Himself.
Acts chapter 29 has been taken out apparently as it tells of the whereabouts of the lost ten tribes of Israel and that Paul went to preach them, it makes me wonder why anyone would want to hide the true identity of Israel.
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:The Catholic Bible retained the books dat were removed a century or two after the Reformation by the Protestants. The books were known as the 'Apocrophya'. To be precise...the protestants and evangelicals do not keep them as of today. They are: Tobias, Judith, the Wisdom of Solomon, Baruch, and Maccabees 1-2.
The Apocryphon of John, the book christians do not want people to talk about because it claimed to destroy every major doctrine of christianity, were also missing...and it was said to be about Jesus Christ Himself.
Acts chapter 29 has been taken out apparently as it tells of the whereabouts of the lost ten tribes of Israel and that Paul went to preach them, it makes me wonder why anyone would want to hide the true identity of Israel.
and you think they got it right?
Originally posted by breytonhartge:and you think they got it right?
wat if they are...maybe u like to find out? :)
but at the end of the day its up to u to believe, some do some dun. there's no end to this contest...like nove said. dats why i chose to remain ignorant for most of the debates on christianity :)