Originally posted by novelltie:we can argue and argue again about your translation and my beliefs. you can say our Catholic's teaching are wrong but does that does not change my beliefs. as i've said, this will not end; which is frankly boring me a little. you have rights to your beliefs and i have rights to my beliefs. you can say we are evil and cover each others' murder during the middle ages, fine so be it. i'm cool about it. if someone here is going to say we Catholics are actually a satanic cult for believing in Mother Mary, he's obliged to his opinion, which frankly does not affect us at all.
Shawn Wood of Seacost Church says it best;
"The problem is that we are spending too much time interpreting the Bible, and not letting it interpret us. The big problem with our understanding of God’s word is not an acedemic issue – it is moral."
you are here debating with me about the wrongs of our religion. i have no answers to your accusation because the doctrines are held in Italy and again, "the word of God is true"... yes but your interpretation may not be the true meaning God has intended for us... look, it will never end; your views and our views do not meet. you believe whatever what you wish to believe, i have no objections because from the beginning of the whole post, i have told everyone, "don't be swayed by others' opinions including Christians for you are free to have your own religion and beliefs."
i seriously advise you to give Father Simon a call if you wish to clarify about the "dead = deep sleep" issue for i'd rather have blind faith than question them. it was written in Catholic "law" that;
Hence if anyone, which God forbid, should dare willfully to deny or to call into doubt that which We (The Church) have defined, let him know that he has fallen away completely from the divine and Catholic Faith.
i rather not challenge for i believe in blind loyalty and faith.
blind loyalty has only ever resulted in one thing... and by this post I think you have missed everything I was trying to say. Be well... shalom.
Originally posted by breytonhartge:blind loyalty has only ever resulted in one thing... and by this post I think you have missed everything I was trying to say. Be well... shalom.
Peace be with you too, my brother.
Originally posted by novelltie:Since there are so many so-called different interpretations of the Bible one complaint often voiced is that everyone has a different interpretation of the Bible. Because many people arrive at varying conclusions when they read the Bible, there is supposedly no way to arrive at a consensus. People point to the variety of denominations as an example that there can be no unanimity among Bible believers.
This idea neglects to take into account certain facts. The great majority of Bible readers have no problem agreeing on the Bible’s central teachings. Even those who do not believe the Bible to be true have no difficulty whatsoever discerning the main message.
Within all branches of Christianity, we find the same basic understanding as to what the Bible teaches. They usually accept the same creeds that assert such basic truths as that God made man in His image, with freedom of choice, and that man chose to rebel against God, thus bringing sin into the world. Moreover, God, because of His everlasting love, became a man in the person of Jesus Christ and died a substitutionary death on our behalf, paying the infinite penalty of sin. Men can have their relationship restored with God through placing their faith in Jesus Christ.
The Bible’s message is clear for those who will read it with an open mind and seek to understand its meaning. The problem comes when people attempt to make the Word fit their preconceived ideas. This is not the fault of the Bible, but of the people who attempt to force the Bible to say whatever they want it to say. Often the disagreement is not so much with the interpretation of the Scriptures, but with the application.
All I am asking you to do is to read the bible in the ORIGINAL context in which it was written, in the original context of who is was written to and in the original context of the setting in which it was talking about.
How do you put your faith in someone whom you don't even know? You give me all the cliche's but who is Yeshua?
Yeshua was never roman and never will be, He was a Jew, of the tribe of Yehuda, born and bred in Yisrael, preached in the Synagogue and a rabbi. He did everything as was expected of an Yisraelite. This is the context.
Have you ever considered that the church which you rely so heavily upon has done exactly just that... attempted to force the bible to say whatever they want it to say? Could there then be a problem with the method of application by the church?
sorry... but I will leave it here, what you make of it is what you make of it... take care of yourself nove...
Children should obey their parents.Refusal to go to church is a sin.
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:I agree with u on wat is actually taught by man these days. i believe the original hebrew bible has been misquoted down the generations. it's like playing the passing message from frens to frens...i believed the gease of the original message would already be lost.
but dun u feel dat religion is all about faith & how much u believe in the God u worship? we can use logic to deal with matters dat are realistic & with a physical presense but wouldn't logic be the wrong key to answer spiritual matters?
cant agree..God is a logical God..we are made in his image..having faith is one thing..blind faith another..
B knows his gf is having a bukakke session..he believes shes a slut..
C knows his gf who had a bukakke session is using the semen as a facial wash and believs her..now thats blind faith..
God isnt hard to understand..he isnt mystical like what many religious leaders claim..he is almighty yet tied himself down with so many restrictions..just because he is love..religious leaders make him mystical so they can control the masses..God encourages us to look for him in the bible..his words..
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:i tried a leather whip but guess i dun hav the lost arts to handle them though i manage to break candles & lamps without getting any hearts. alucard inspires me & wielding a sword seems less of a hassle.
hmm..no hearts from candles and lamps..any gold coins or gold bags??you didnt equip the cube of zoe right??did you break anything else in the house??mama might not be very happy you know...
careful with that soul steal spell..you dont wanna suck the life force from your family..seeing a blue color dog with a sword aint friendly looking too..and bugging bezeelbulb with that yellow mist looks dirty..
Originally posted by novelltie:brey, friend... i'm not pushing away the responsibility but rather... what i've learnt, i've learnt from Father Simon Pereira. he was my Sunday Church teacher and whatever i've said to you comes from him. he is my source of knowledge and my mentor. i've studied the bible many times and somehow, it coincide with my faith and knowledge. yes, there were many questions and unclear message the Lord had written in the bible but if i were to question every ounce of it, what good will it be?
you asked me to study and discern the truth... friend, maybe you have lot of free time at your disposal but i do not have... and again, do i have the resources to seek the "dark secrets"? are you willing to sponsor my trip to Israel and Egypt or even Italy? you may say i am blinded by facades and lies that does not coincide with the Holy Bible, but again are you so sure of it yourself that your interpretation of "death = eternal sleep" is 100% accurate and true base on the bible.
i have only one conclusion of why the Catholic Church teaches us that when we die, we enter in Heaven or Purgatory to be cleanse... cos' they have found out from the bible, they have interprete from the bible, based on their deductions and beliefs plus the endorsement of the Pope and the Bishops and whatever authority God has given them and maybe even hints from Mother Mary when she appeared in Fatimah to the 3 children that it is true. you can debate this, you can contest this, i'm not saying you aren't liable to... you have the very right to do so but you asking me to question the teachings of the Catholic Church is akin to in my opinion treachery. call it blind faith, call it self-delusional but frankly, even if Da Vinci Code is true and Jesus married Mary of Magdalene, have a lineage of spawns, i do not care for i have experienced the love of God and the Virgin Mother... i have pleaded for the protection of St. Michael and it was bestowed to me.
what more do you wish from me then? when to me, facts do not always equal to faith. Science has opened a question for all; why wasn't the dinosaurs indicated in the Holy Bible as Adam and Eve were the first? there was no collection of wild giant beasts but a serpent when dinosaurs came first? when queried, i just shrugged it off because there is no way i can out-talk a scientist and we have factual proof of dinosaurs fossils. in the end, you are using facts on this issue which in my opinion, you are very wise and very academic but then; faith is not based on facts and written history based on a thousand year old text. faith is believing what is unseen and unproven.
the most debated query of all which is non religious; do ghost exist? can science prove it? i have personally encountered spirits before. my mother was possessed by a spirit before. my sister could see spirits before when she was younger. she told me one lady spirit was walking around the house without the lower part of her body. but can science prove the existence of the supernatural? how many of us wishes to explore and prove the existence in the first place; unless you are paid to do so...
so end of the day, i do understand your stand that the Bible indicated "this and that", why do the Church teach otherwise. as i've said, they may have interpreted the bible differently from you and i chose to believe them. simple as that.
dear nove..while this is pretty much your discussion with brey..may i just add..though its best to study the original scriptures in the original tongue it was written in..its impossible not just tight budget..but even the hebrew used then is different from now..
the mordern english version is still reliable..you said you had no time..are you the wheat that grows with the weed??there is a time to work in secular..there is a time for God..which is more important??do you trust God enough to throw your daily anxieties to him??do you not trust that he can make better arrangements for you even if you quit your current job or maybe study less??
lastly..same bible given to everyone ends with pretty different interpretation..a bible given to someone with no knowledge prior ends with no such thing as trinity doctrine from the church..
read the bible..compare it with church teachings..see if its consistant not just once or twice..but everytime..does teachings of the church you attend reveals the personality of God the way the bible reveals him..his love, his justice..his love of righteousness...the bible is more accurate than the teachings of men..
Originally posted by novelltie:we can argue and argue again about your translation and my beliefs. you can say our Catholic's teaching are wrong but does that does not change my beliefs. as i've said, this will not end; which is frankly boring me a little. you have rights to your beliefs and i have rights to my beliefs. you can say we are evil and cover each others' murder during the middle ages, fine so be it. i'm cool about it. if someone here is going to say we Catholics are actually a satanic cult for believing in Mother Mary, he's obliged to his opinion, which frankly does not affect us at all.
Shawn Wood of Seacost Church says it best;
"The problem is that we are spending too much time interpreting the Bible, and not letting it interpret us. The big problem with our understanding of God’s word is not an acedemic issue – it is moral."
you are here debating with me about the wrongs of our religion. i have no answers to your accusation because the doctrines are held in Italy and again, "the word of God is true"... yes but your interpretation may not be the true meaning God has intended for us... look, it will never end; your views and our views do not meet. you believe whatever what you wish to believe, i have no objections because from the beginning of the whole post, i have told everyone, "don't be swayed by others' opinions including Christians for you are free to have your own religion and beliefs."
i seriously advise you to give Father Simon a call if you wish to clarify about the "dead = deep sleep" issue for i'd rather have blind faith than question them. it was written in Catholic "law" that;
Hence if anyone, which God forbid, should dare willfully to deny or to call into doubt that which We (The Church) have defined, let him know that he has fallen away completely from the divine and Catholic Faith.
i rather not challenge for i believe in blind loyalty and faith.
you kept mentioning catholic faith..catholic teachings..father this say that..father that says this..just a question..what about God??what does God says??what does God wants us to do??he didnt want us to have blind faith..its in the bible..
Originally posted by Stomp661:Children should obey their parents.Refusal to go to church is a sin.
refusal to go church is seeing the light..though the words of parents must be heeded..no contradictions..children can let their parents know their wishes in a subtle and subdued manner..let no anger rise..for the calm one speaks wisdom..
Originally posted by domonkassyu:cant agree..God is a logical God..we are made in his image..having faith is one thing..blind faith another..
B knows his gf is having a bukakke session..he believes shes a slut..
C knows his gf who had a bukakke session is using the semen as a facial wash and believs her..now thats blind faith..
God isnt hard to understand..he isnt mystical like what many religious leaders claim..he is almighty yet tied himself down with so many restrictions..just because he is love..religious leaders make him mystical so they can control the masses..God encourages us to look for him in the bible..his words..
But if something is logical like God u say for this instance, wuldn't He be easier to understand by people as u had mentioned? If he isn't mystical, shldn't He be known by all without so many arguments about the bible down the generations?
I'm not sure abt blind faith for some people but God has touched me in my life. He helped my family to stay together in difficult times & saved me from civil punishment after i committed terrible things in life. Hence i repent & He has watched over me since. Most of my prayers have been answered till now. Those which are yet to be answered i believe will come in due time for "good things come to people who wait".
Originally posted by domonkassyu:hmm..no hearts from candles and lamps..any gold coins or gold bags??you didnt equip the cube of zoe right??did you break anything else in the house??mama might not be very happy you know...
careful with that soul steal spell..you dont wanna suck the life force from your family..seeing a blue color dog with a sword aint friendly looking too..and bugging bezeelbulb with that yellow mist looks dirty..
Fortunately i managed to find soul of mist & i transformed into mist, sneak thru my mama's room & steal the gold inside...which i then proceed to the nearby library to shop for items & spells. but i dun like to use soul steal, i prefer to use stop watch. then i can take it out on those asking for it.
Originally posted by domonkassyu:you kept mentioning catholic faith..catholic teachings..father this say that..father that says this..just a question..what about God??what does God says??what does God wants us to do??he didnt want us to have blind faith..its in the bible..
who is the pope? the pope is the spiritual leader of the Roman Catholics, the one chosen by God to lead His people; to spread His teaching. so indirectly, God speaks through the pope, to the Church to us.
you can question the authencity of the authority God gave to the Pope, no issues. you can deny his "sacred" duties and message. you can say he's hallucinating when he hear God's order... i can't challenge you.
for example; so in 1950, when the Pople declared papal infallibility for the Assumption of Mary; we were told that her status of "Mother Mary" is confirmed among the Catholics and we are to venerate her, not worship her as the Mother of God. this is then passed down from the Vatican to the bishops all around the world, to the priests in the different churches locally and to the masss, us.
now, are you saying God didn't tell the pope to declare papal infallibility for the Assumption of Mary? hey, the bible didn't ask us to venerate Mother Mary but why do we do so? because we have faith that the pope, the successor of St. Peter, the rock and watchman at the Gate of Heaven has received an order by God himself to place status on his mortal mother for she is sinless.
yes as usual, please contest the authencity of Mother Mary, contest the legitability of the Pope, contest the manipulation of the bible by the Church, contest all you want for it's your own free will.
again, i do read the bible, i do understand the morals behind each parable and chapters but my interpretation may not be the same as yours. it may mean something else when it means this to me. i have no objections if you think otherwise for "yes" and "no" may mean different things to us in life.
like brey, a brother no doubt our differences; i will leave this as it is for further contest will breed nothing. Peace be with you.
Originally posted by novelltie:who is the pope? the pope is the spiritual leader of the Roman Catholics, the one chosen by God to lead His people; to spread His teaching. so indirectly, God speaks through the pope, to the Church to us.
you can question the authencity of the authority God gave to the Pope, no issues. you can deny his "sacred" duties and message. you can say he's hallucinating when he hear God's order... i can't challenge you.
for example; so in 1950, when the Pople declared papal infallibility for the Assumption of Mary; we were told that her status of "Mother Mary" is confirmed among the Catholics and we are to venerate her, not worship her as the Mother of God. this is then passed down from the Vatican to the bishops all around the world, to the priests in the different churches locally and to the masss, us.
now, are you saying God didn't tell the pope to declare papal infallibility for the Assumption of Mary? hey, the bible didn't ask us to venerate Mother Mary but why do we do so? because we have faith that the pope, the successor of St. Peter, the rock and watchman at the Gate of Heaven has received an order by God himself to place status on his mortal mother for she is sinless.
yes as usual, please contest the authencity of Mother Mary, contest the legitability of the Pope, contest the manipulation of the bible by the Church, contest all you want for it's your own free will.
again, i do read the bible, i do understand the morals behind each parable and chapters but my interpretation may not be the same as yours. it may mean something else when it means this to me. i have no objections if you think otherwise for "yes" and "no" may mean different things to us in life.
like brey, a brother no doubt our differences; i will leave this as it is for further contest will breed nothing. Peace be with you.
errr.. the pope is chosen by a group of cardinals who most likely have political agendas... if the pope is supposed to spread the teachings of Yahweh, why then does he teach things which are contrary to the bible? On this point you have never been able to answer...
ok in 1950 the pope declared the assumption of Mary, don't you think it funny that waaay back when Miriam (Mary) gave birth to Yeshua, if Yahweh wanted to do so, He would have? I mean if you say you read the bible, then you would know that Yahweh made a statement about Yeshua in Mattinyahu 3:17 And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."
Would not Yaweh have mentioned Miriam to be vernerated then? Would not Yeshua if it was sooooo important mention something about it then as well?
I just find it strange that is all. Why retrospectively and why after so long?
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:But if something is logical like God u say for this instance, wuldn't He be easier to understand by people as u had mentioned? If he isn't mystical, shldn't He be known by all without so many arguments about the bible down the generations?
I'm not sure abt blind faith for some people but God has touched me in my life. He helped my family to stay together in difficult times & saved me from civil punishment after i committed terrible things in life. Hence i repent & He has watched over me since. Most of my prayers have been answered till now. Those which are yet to be answered i believe will come in due time for "good things come to people who wait".
Sikoyo, who Yahweh is is clearly defined in the bible, what He wants us to do, how He wants us to worship, etc all defined... so how mystical can that be? It is so clear.
this is going to be another endless loop....
protestant theology vs catholic vs hebraic......
you believe what you believe, and that's the end of it....
Could we dispense with theology differences and just worship God and be brothers and sisters to one another?
In the end we all going to find out the universal truth. None of man made theological crap going to matter then anyway. There's only God that would prevail the test of time.
Let's not worship our religion or theological principles but let's worship God alone. For heaven sake we all could be wrong at some points and right at another points. No one really knows for sure. I've seen good Catholic priests who are full of the holy spirit and I've seen the not so good Ctaholic priest which I quite don't like. I've seen good Protestants and likewise I've seen the bad ones. If you really believe in one true God then we are all bothers and sisters of the same God despite our religion and our beliefs.
Could you imagine saved souls arguing one another about whose religion is better in heaven?
You see my point?
Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:Could we dispense with theology differences and just worship God and be brothers and sisters to one another?
In the end we all going to find out the universal truth. None of man made theological crap going to matter then anyway. There's only God that would prevail the test of time.
Let's not worship our religion or theological principles but let's worship God alone. For heaven sake we all could be wrong at some points and right at another points. No one really knows for sure. I've seen good Catholic priests who are full of the holy spirit and I've seen the not so good Ctaholic priest which I quite don't like. I've seen good Protestants and likewise I've seen the bad ones. If you really believe in one true God then we are all bothers and sisters of the same God despite our religion and our beliefs.
Could you imagine saved souls arguing one another about whose religion is better in heaven?
You see my point?
MP, the problem with your statement is if one wants to worship Yahweh, how do we do it, according to what the church teaches us or according to what He wants us to do? Problem is a cp full of holy spirit, is still a cp... if you get my drift... ultimately what one must come to is how Yahweh wants us to worship Him. How He wants us to follow Him, not what the church nor any man says about how we should follow or worship Him.
Originally posted by breytonhartge:MP, the problem with your statement is if one wants to worship Yahweh, how do we do it, according to what the church teaches us or according to what He wants us to do? Problem is a cp full of holy spirit, is still a cp... if you get my drift... ultimately what one must come to is how Yahweh wants us to worship Him. How He wants us to follow Him, not what the church nor any man says about how we should follow or worship Him.
If one does not listen to the teaching of the church, then will God come and teach you personally? Why must God reveal himself to you but not to the community of believers?
Originally posted by SingaporeMacross:If one does not listen to the teaching of the church, then will God come and teach you personally? Why must God reveal himself to you but not to the community of believers?
Yahweh is found of those who seek Him and there will always be a community of like minded people. So in short yes, He will have to teach me Himself because the church is NOT doing it.
The whole problem is that the church is NOT teaching what Yahweh wants... they are preaching things that are going against His commandments. There are so many teachings in the church that contradict what the bible says, now then if the bible is the word of Yawheh, who is right? man or G_d? The chruch is telling us how it thinks we should be worshipping our creator, where Yahweh already told us EXACTLY how He wants this to be done, yet is the church listening? Not only does the church not do what Yahweh wants, they create new things and ways of worship and force it upon Yahweh that it is how the church will worship Him, the audacity and the arrogance of it all.
i refer to an earlier post from marcteng. it appears tat to him, being God's creation make us His children... well, i shant argue much abt tis but all i can say is marcteng who claims he noes all the christian answers to his qns, obviously dun understand the christian definition of being God's child and the christian definition of a r/s...wif tis i rest my case cos i dun wish to argue wif him further...
let me qualify by saying tat i choose not to argue further wif marcteng not cos i cannot answer or have no answer but cos i noe its gonna be anther apple orange argument. there wil be no outcome cos we alredi have diff schools of understanding to begin wif...
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:But if something is logical like God u say for this instance, wuldn't He be easier to understand by people as u had mentioned? If he isn't mystical, shldn't He be known by all without so many arguments about the bible down the generations?
I'm not sure abt blind faith for some people but God has touched me in my life. He helped my family to stay together in difficult times & saved me from civil punishment after i committed terrible things in life. Hence i repent & He has watched over me since. Most of my prayers have been answered till now. Those which are yet to be answered i believe will come in due time for "good things come to people who wait".
well, i cant emphasise enough that reading the bible is very important..by that i dont mean attending mass or whatever to listen to what other people tell you what certain bible says...i meant you take out you own bible and time and meditate what you are going to read in there..pray before you read and after...ask that you may understand him...God has lovingly provided what he wanna tell us through the bible...he does also protect us in daily life..he is only now difficult to understand because people has be mystifying him for the past 2000+ years from the creation of the church..and even before that by the jews..
God sent his only begotten son to clarify matters and witness for him 2000+ years ago..and he knows people through other types of influences will mess things up..but at least his main goal has been achieved..the redemption for humans..
also,always remember..satan always turn himself into an angel of light in order to mislead..
Originally posted by +Sikoyo+:Fortunately i managed to find soul of mist & i transformed into mist, sneak thru my mama's room & steal the gold inside...which i then proceed to the nearby library to shop for items & spells. but i dun like to use soul steal, i prefer to use stop watch. then i can take it out on those asking for it.
make sure you got plenty of heart refresh or get a duplicator with the gold you got..stop watch burns hearts quickly...while you are at it..pass some of the gold to me please...hehehehe....
Originally posted by novelltie:who is the pope? the pope is the spiritual leader of the Roman Catholics, the one chosen by God to lead His people; to spread His teaching. so indirectly, God speaks through the pope, to the Church to us.
you can question the authencity of the authority God gave to the Pope, no issues. you can deny his "sacred" duties and message. you can say he's hallucinating when he hear God's order... i can't challenge you.
for example; so in 1950, when the Pople declared papal infallibility for the Assumption of Mary; we were told that her status of "Mother Mary" is confirmed among the Catholics and we are to venerate her, not worship her as the Mother of God. this is then passed down from the Vatican to the bishops all around the world, to the priests in the different churches locally and to the masss, us.
now, are you saying God didn't tell the pope to declare papal infallibility for the Assumption of Mary? hey, the bible didn't ask us to venerate Mother Mary but why do we do so? because we have faith that the pope, the successor of St. Peter, the rock and watchman at the Gate of Heaven has received an order by God himself to place status on his mortal mother for she is sinless.
yes as usual, please contest the authencity of Mother Mary, contest the legitability of the Pope, contest the manipulation of the bible by the Church, contest all you want for it's your own free will.
again, i do read the bible, i do understand the morals behind each parable and chapters but my interpretation may not be the same as yours. it may mean something else when it means this to me. i have no objections if you think otherwise for "yes" and "no" may mean different things to us in life.
like brey, a brother no doubt our differences; i will leave this as it is for further contest will breed nothing. Peace be with you.
dear nove..i totally understand your point as i used to think like you too..until i saw it can no longer be that way...pope is elected by people and not God..then people will say bible is written by man not God which is correct technically..
while the church says to venerate mary and not worship her..think of the title for mary..mother of God..personally, i feel its very insulting...almighty God to be born by a mere mortal sinful human....the God who has no beginnings is now being called a son of woman...a woman who originated God..you get my drift..and yes i am saying God did not say to pope this and that...Jesus himself says to satan..it is to YHWH/JHVH your God that you should render sacred services to..and i dont even wanna say how many things the church is doing against biblical teachings..we read the same bible that was inspired of God..certain consistent truth cannot be missed..
its because of the love of a brother..thats why i felt compelled to make my points..May YHW/JHVH watch over you and people you care for..
Originally posted by breytonhartge:errr.. the pope is chosen by a group of cardinals who most likely have political agendas... if the pope is supposed to spread the teachings of Yahweh, why then does he teach things which are contrary to the bible? On this point you have never been able to answer...
ok in 1950 the pope declared the assumption of Mary, don't you think it funny that waaay back when Miriam (Mary) gave birth to Yeshua, if Yahweh wanted to do so, He would have? I mean if you say you read the bible, then you would know that Yahweh made a statement about Yeshua in Mattinyahu 3:17 And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."
Would not Yaweh have mentioned Miriam to be vernerated then? Would not Yeshua if it was sooooo important mention something about it then as well?
I just find it strange that is all. Why retrospectively and why after so long?
why is it only me and you see this point??why took so long you asked??because back the there was no paganistic church...there was only the temple of YHWH/JHVH....
going along you line of arguments, Yahweh can also jolly well say this is my son whom i approve of...who also is myself..so that i had sent myself to you humans so i can approve him now by annointing him with my 3rd self called the holy spirit..and i say to you humans that i Yahweh is a trinitarian God found in so many other pagan religions..so have no doubt when you dont understand because my greatness cannot be comprehended by your limitted intelligence...
isit it so much clearer now if God had said something like that....