hello i like wondering if only good Christians go to heaven? does it means lousy Christians go to hell? what is the Godly life? does one have to like follow the Godly life?
yup only good christians go to heaven. the rest of us will burn in hell where our hot ass is.
Originally posted by advanceparty:hello i like wondering if only good Christians go to heaven? does it means lousy Christians go to hell? what is the Godly life? does one have to like follow the Godly life?
no..this qn has been asked many many times but it is a very impt qn.
1st, wats good n lousy christians?
2nd, did the bible teach that christians will go heaven?
3rd, wat the bible says about leading a godly life and God's view on it?
4th, pretty much the same as my 3rd qn to u.
i understand that only X nos will be resurrected gain on the last day....some where in Relevation? anyone confirm?
Originally posted by SevenEleven:i understand that only X nos will be resurrected gain on the last day....some where in Relevation? anyone confirm?
there will be 2 resurrections.1st are the joint heirs of JC. the 144 000 who will be raised n changed into spirit creatures to rule with JC.
2nd resurrections are for the other flock to inherit the restored earth.this 2nd one dun knw how many will be raised.but most people will be judged here to see if they can continue to live or go back to slp..those who are approved to live will tahan 1k years before the final test to see who live n slp again.but for the last time......all these are in the interesting book of revelation.
Originally posted by domonkassyu:there will be 2 resurrections.1st are the joint heirs of JC. the 144 000 who will be raised n changed into spirit creatures to rule with JC.
2nd resurrections are for the other flock to inherit the restored earth.this 2nd one dun knw how many will be raised.but most people will be judged here to see if they can continue to live or go back to slp..those who are approved to live will tahan 1k years before the final test to see who live n slp again.but for the last time......all these are in the interesting book of revelation.
any quote?
Originally posted by SevenEleven:any quote?
the 144000 is rev 7:4
great crowd is rev 7:9
but its better to read the whole of 7 for a better picture.
I don't see why ugly Christians can't go to heaven.
LOL......okay you think that was funny?
"Whoever dies in his sins, even if he profess to believe in Christ, does not truly believe in Him, and even if that which exists without works be called faith, such faith is dead in itself, as we read in the Epistle bearing the name of James." Origen, Commentary on John, 19:6 (A.D. 232).
Originally posted by Miracles&Prophecies:I don't see why ugly Christians can't go to heaven.
LOL......okay you think that was funny?
there is no ugly christians, they are just called backsliders or pretenders.
there are people i know who is really a big time gangster and claim they are christian that don't go to church and say church sucks and boring.
Do they deserve to go to heaven?
chrisitians who go heaven are those pure in body and mind and of worship to God alone.these group of people numbered, the rest who serves God but not in the 144000 gets to enjoy the earth..
doesn't Jesus's sacrifice already means salvation for all believers? why are there such discrimination, are some believers better than others?
Originally posted by advanceparty:doesn't Jesus's sacrifice already means salvation for all believers? why are there such discrimination, are some believers better than others?
no. they simply "discriminate" non-believers.
Criminals went paradise, too. Before Jesus died on the cross there were 2 criminals beside him. He told them today you will be with me in paradise.
Good, one can go on sinning, robbing yet can go paradise heaven. Free passport to go heaven.
Originally posted by Fantagf:Criminals went paradise, too. Before Jesus died on the cross there were 2 criminals beside him. He told them today you will be with me in paradise.
Good, one can go on sinning, robbing yet can go paradise heaven. Free passport to go heaven.
lol..bs..
only one of them believed in JC..
the selected group of 144000 does not mean the other large group is being discriminated...the 144k are to be co rulers with JC..they have to do the sai kang of ruling the bigger group.the bigger group jus need to enjoy life in paradise earth.
Originally posted by Fantagf:Criminals went paradise, too. Before Jesus died on the cross there were 2 criminals beside him. He told them today you will be with me in paradise.
Good, one can go on sinning, robbing yet can go paradise heaven. Free passport to go heaven.
well, biblical speaking not correct. Only ONE went with Him to paradise. The difference is REPENTANCE - TRUE REPENTANCE!
the passage you mention is oft quoted wrongly and given a wrong twist to: you can sin all you want and you will still go to heaven, because Jesus let these two criminals go too.... well... that is not what the Bible said.
Originally posted by Chin Eng:
well, biblical speaking not correct. Only ONE went with Him to paradise. The difference is REPENTANCE - TRUE REPENTANCE!the passage you mention is oft quoted wrongly and given a wrong twist to: you can sin all you want and you will still go to heaven, because Jesus let these two criminals go too.... well... that is not what the Bible said.
pretty well said.. =)
if Heaven only has room for 14400 christians. what like happen to the rest? refugee camp outside pearly gate?
Originally posted by advanceparty:if Heaven only has room for 14400 christians. what like happen to the rest? refugee camp outside pearly gate?
they will be waitlisted.
Originally posted by Chin Eng:
they will be waitlisted.
Dun tell me, Catholic concept of purgatory is applied?
Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Dun tell me, Catholic concept of purgatory is applied?
no, not purgatory, just waitlisted.... like getting an airline ticket.
Originally posted by advanceparty:if Heaven only has room for 14400 christians. what like happen to the rest? refugee camp outside pearly gate?
dude..read the bible..the meek shall inherit the earth...which part of "inherit the earth" does anyone dont understand???the thing about pearly gate..dont recall it occuring in the bible too..
Revelation 3:6 - He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
Revelation 3:5 - He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels.
Who wrote the book of Revelation? - John. Best person to translate - John in his own book.
1 John5:5 - Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.
1 John 4:5 - You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the one who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world.
*All verse are taken from NIV.
Originally posted by Fantagf:Criminals went paradise, too. Before Jesus died on the cross there were 2 criminals beside him. He told them today you will be with me in paradise.
Good, one can go on sinning, robbing yet can go paradise heaven. Free passport to go heaven.
So thats the easy way out? So if u kill people today u can rise to heaven and enjoy happiness? Im afraid no. You are bounded by state law anyway. Before you go up there you will be hanged to death. Your life would be gone in your own hands for you chose to believe that.
1 John 4:15 If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in him and he in God. And so we know and rely on the love God has for us.
1 John 4:19 - We love because He first loved us. If anyone says, "I love God," yet hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God, whom he has not seen.
You can choose to be the left or the right thief.
Luke 7:47 - Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven—for she loved much. But he who has been forgiven little loves little."