Tithing is biblical?
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come let discuss!
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if you mean whether it can be found in the bible, yes.
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what youOriginally posted by Chelzea:
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i know this,Originally posted by Icemoon:if you mean whether it can be found in the bible, yes.
there is a lot of crime in the bible also.... lol
the question is : it tithing biblical in today new testament era.. -
yes .. or else your pastor jiak cao (eat grass) ah?Originally posted by NOD:the question is : it tithing biblical in today new testament era..
However, if you want to get technical, actually tithing is not biblical in today new testament era for the simple reason the original (and only) tithing commandment pertains to the Jewish Temple.
However the Apostle Paul did tell the church in Corinth to set aside a sum of money as the collection for God's people. Read 1 Corinthians 16.
Notice the Apostle Paul did not say 10%. Neither did he call it a tithe. -
Personally I don't see the difference between offering and tithe except
1. tithing is for the church. purpose is unstated. it is up for them to spend it. most will go into paying the church workers and pastors.
2. offering is for a specific purpose. like supporting some missionary trip. basically supporting people doing the works of God.
Since technically the tithing commandment is non binding on Christians, it is up to you whether you want to set aside 10% or 4% or 20%.
As if someone who put 4% for tithe and 6% for offering will get the curse of God? Or someone who put 8% in the home church and 2% in some other Christian organization, for that matter.
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Uh huh.........
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tithing is biblical. got write in bible. something bout giving back to god their harvest. maybe because they believe that god give them a good harvest so they repay him back.
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ok lor .. you can tithe your phoenix fragant rice to the church.Originally posted by popmynutsy:tithing is biblical. got write in bible. something bout giving back to god their harvest. maybe because they believe that god give them a good harvest so they repay him back. -
Not all churches practice tithing (as in the 10% thing).
My church do not enforce tithing.
Biblical context of tithing - to give back to God what God has given to you, a somewhat symbolic indication of your response to God's grace.
Realistic context of tithing - like ice said..... pastor jiak cao if there is no income from congregation... then got running cost, electric bills etc. -
this thread quite unique hor?
The first post is NOT by the TS.... -
coz there is a trick to itOriginally posted by Chin Eng:this thread quite unique hor?
The first post is NOT by the TS....
hehehehe
just like creating nameless topic, overcoming the profanity filter etc etc
btw, phoenix fragrance rice nice har? i think royal umbrella not bad -
it is a commandent in the old testament for the israelite to tithes. it is compulsory.Originally posted by popmynutsy:tithing is biblical. got write in bible. something bout giving back to god their harvest. maybe because they believe that god give them a good harvest so they repay him back.
of course you can rebel against the commandment lor. then god is allow to bring on the pestilence lor. becos the old testament is sealed by the covanant.
now we are in the old or new testament har? -
1 cor 16 most likely refer to an 1 time giving for the jerusalem church that is in need of $$$.Originally posted by Icemoon:Personally I don't see the difference between offering and tithe except
1. tithing is for the church. purpose is unstated. it is up for them to spend it. most will go into paying the church workers and pastors.
2. offering is for a specific purpose. like supporting some missionary trip. basically supporting people doing the works of God.
Since technically the tithing commandment is non binding on Christians, it is up to you whether you want to set aside 10% or 4% or 20%.
As if someone who put 4% for tithe and 6% for offering will get the curse of God? Or someone who put 8% in the home church and 2% in some other Christian organization, for that matter.
Opinions?
As for the maintenance fund (tithes), we should call it tithes. becos tithes mean "compulsory 10%" ppl are forced to comply.
if you dun want the ps to eat grass, then we can say it outfront using the term like: church maintenance fund, church holy fund, church bills fund, staff allowance, or any other term.
If the church need the $$ to survive, jus say it plain straight, dun need to hide behind the "Tithes " terms to 'force' ppl to contribute.
CHC menber are Avid in tithing, pls kindly comment , thks -
Some churches separate the "offering" into different categories.Originally posted by NOD:1 cor 16 most likely refer to an 1 time giving for the jerusalem church that is in need of $$$.
As for the maintenance fund (tithes), we should call it tithes. becos tithes mean "compulsory 10%" ppl are forced to comply.
if you dun want the ps to eat grass, then we can say it outfront using the term like: church maintenance fund, church holy fund, church bills fund, staff allowance, or any other term.
If the church need the $$ to survive, jus say it plain straight, dun need to hide behind the "Tithes " terms to 'force' ppl to contribute.
CHC menber are Avid in tithing, pls kindly comment , thks
Some churches uses the term offering and tithing similarly. -
i give 10% of my gross salary...
so, shld it be 10% of gross or take home salary? -
for the actual practice .. I need to ask the Christians.Originally posted by Chin Eng:Some churches separate the "offering" into different categories.
Some churches uses the term offering and tithing similarly.
The tithe and offering is different thing right?
And is it true like what I said, for the tithe which you give once a month .. they never tell you beforehand how the money will be used. At most AGM that time let you see financial statement only.
What the heck .. I don't even know what is tithe called in chinese!
offering is feng4 xian4. -
should be based on gross salary exclude expenses like car, handphone, parking, oversea expenditure.Originally posted by goaler:i give 10% of my gross salary...
so, shld it be 10% of gross or take home salary? -
doesn't matter, the way you calculate, its just technicality. Like I had said many times on this matter, doing them with the correct heart attitude towards these matters, be it; tithing, offering, giving, doing good deeds .... etc, is more important.Originally posted by goaler:i give 10% of my gross salary...
so, shld it be 10% of gross or take home salary?
** what is the correct heart attitude then?
A heart full of gratitude and thanks giving toward God is one, a humble heart acknowledging the grace that was given is another ...etc
God bless .... cheers
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tithe is compulsory in christian context, offering is freewillOriginally posted by Icemoon:The tithe and offering is different thing right?
What the heck .. I don't even know what is tithe called in chinese!
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tithing is call ["ten" "one"] in mandarin. -
let me try to clear the tithing doubts ba...1st, tithing is a process where all christian should do...check out malacai 3:10...put all the tithes....and try Me for this...imagine...the bible says tat we are nt allow to challenge God...but in this verse...God is challenging us in the area of finances! It shows that God is a rich God and He wants His children to be bless as well..Offering is a free will giving...it is different from tithing...
Tithing is giving 10 percent of ur everything to God to show that you are willing to sacrifice..
I've tithe and gave offerings for the past 2 yrs as a christian...and i have been blessed back alot more from wat i have gave...Thank God for that.. -
yes, God desire mercy more than sacrifice, that tell you the attitude of God.Originally posted by vince69:doesn't matter, the way you calculate, its just technicality. Like I had said many times on this matter, doing them with the correct heart attitude towards these matters, be it; tithing, offering, giving, doing good deeds .... etc, is more important.
** what is the correct heart attitude then?
A heart full of gratitude and thanks giving toward God is one, a humble heart acknowledging the grace that was given is another ...etc
God bless .... cheers -
hah? ten one is eleven in mandarin leh?Originally posted by NOD:tithe is compulsory in christian context, offering is freewill
tithing is call ["ten" "one"] in mandarin.
don't think tithe is compulsory, from my understanding. It is technically not correct to call it a tithe liao. -
good that god bless you.Originally posted by Samuelpsw:let me try to clear the tithing doubts ba...1st, tithing is a process where all christian should do...check out malacai 3:10...put all the tithes....and try Me for this...imagine...the bible says tat we are nt allow to challenge God...but in this verse...God is challenging us in the area of finances! It shows that God is a rich God and He wants His children to be bless as well..Offering is a free will giving...it is different from tithing...
Tithing is giving 10 percent of ur everything to God to show that you are willing to sacrifice..
malachi is refering/talking to the israelite who is in exile for their rebellion.
the israelite is living in the old testament ma. so the law of tithing apply to them lor.
is malachi speaking to us (in this regard at least) in the new testament era?? i dun think so pal. -
ya lor, that is what i heard.Originally posted by Icemoon:hah? ten one is eleven in mandarin leh?