A sermon to share: Sinners in the hands of an angry God
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here is the hard part,Originally posted by laurence82:So all people who reject christ are wicked?
while most people would like to believe that human are born innocent, we christians believe that all human are born with the sin of Adam.
while most people would like to believe that good people go to heaven, we christians believe that only the perfect people goes to heaven. -
wahah .. Christians are like Xun Tzu not Mencius .. hahaOriginally posted by vince69:here is the hard part,
while most people would like to believe that human are born innocent, we christians believe that all human are born with the sin of Adam.
while most people would like to believe that good people go to heaven, we christians believe that only the perfect people goes to heaven. -
perfect?Originally posted by vince69:here is the hard part,
while most people would like to believe that human are born innocent, we christians believe that all human are born with the sin of Adam.
while most people would like to believe that good people go to heaven, we christians believe that only the perfect people goes to heaven.
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what Xun Tzu not Mencius?Originally posted by Icemoon:wahah .. Christians are like Xun Tzu not Mencius .. haha
chiam... maybe we go to forbidden city next time to talk about these.... -
yup, cause God is perfect, so anyone less than perfect cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven.Originally posted by laurence82:perfect? 
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meaing the belief is more similar to Xun Tzu's belief rather than Mencius' belief.Originally posted by vince69:what Xun Tzu not Mencius?
chiam... maybe we go to forbidden city next time to talk about these.... -
Originally posted by Icemoon:meaing the belief is more similar to Xun Tzu's belief rather than Mencius' belief.
piaseh, both I also don't know -
which means 100% of usOriginally posted by vince69:yup, cause God is perfect, so anyone less than perfect cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven. -
in short mencius believed man is born righteous and xun tzu believed man is born evil.Originally posted by vince69: piaseh, both I also don't know -
no, it means, for one to enter into heaven, he must be 100% flawless (ie. perfect)Originally posted by laurence82:which means 100% of us -
again, 100% of usOriginally posted by vince69:no, it means, for one to enter into heaven, he must be 100% flawless (ie. perfect) -
100% of us what? effort? deeds?Originally posted by laurence82:again, 100% of us -
Who can be perfect?Originally posted by vince69:100% of us what? effort? deeds? -
that's a very good question lau...Originally posted by laurence82:Who can be perfect?
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no human can.Originally posted by laurence82:Who can be perfect?
which is precisely why Christ being perfect, have to suffer and die on the cross and on the third day rose again, to make perfect that which is not. Its is His perfection that we are made perfect, its His righteousness that we are made righteous. -
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bo link lehOriginally posted by vince69:no human can.
which is precisely why Christ being perfect, have to suffer and die on the cross and on the third day rose again, to make perfect that which is not. Its is His perfection that we are made perfect, its His righteousness that we are made righteous.
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Lau can i ask you a personal question?
Do you believe that there is right and wrong morally? -
Thats why i say Famous only.Originally posted by laoda99:hmmm...wonder if a pastor preach the same sermon again, will he have the same effect? -
Focus on Sinners.Originally posted by laurence82:i beseech our almight Admin to ban gasband
Strangely, pardon me if i got it wrong, the sermons doesnt seem to soley focus on non believers? -
if the Holy Spirit accompanies it my friend. Oh sorry i meant to answer Laoda's post. sorryOriginally posted by M©+square:Thats why i say Famous only. -
Hmm...Originally posted by M©+square:Focus on Sinners.
Definition of sinners in your case? -
You already said IF....Originally posted by Ironside:if the Holy Spirit accompanies it my friend.
See la....edit somemore... -
me not jon edwards leh.Originally posted by laurence82:Hmm...
Definition of sinners in your case? -
yes, it will have the same convicting effect IF the Holy Spirit accompanies the message in the hearts of the listeners.Originally posted by M©+square:You already said IF....
a reply to laoda's statement:
"hmmm...wonder if a pastor preach the same sermon again, will he have the same effect?"