ST Forum: Isn't Boys' Brigade just a CCA?

• photo_seeker

  6 Oct 05, 15:18

  Originally posted by crazy monkey:

  so parent's consent is required after all.
  
  btw are BB only active in missionary schs or other govt sch as well ?

  Parent consent is always requireed. BB is active in all schools in Singapore and approved by the MOE for all schools as a CCA
• crazy monkey

  6 Oct 05, 18:07

  Originally posted by chronicles:

  Then i ask you, why is all the blame pushed to the child and why didnt the parents even bother to find out anything if he was so concerned.I might be "small kid" but you have a small brain capcity.

  i already say before wat how can the parent expect to know if the child didnt say ?
• crazy monkey

  6 Oct 05, 18:13

  Originally posted by photo_seeker:

  Parent consent is always requireed. BB is active in all schools in Singapore and approved by the MOE for all schools as a CCA

  so what happen when there is a conflict between the child and parent regarding the coversion ? wats the stand of BB or the church ?
• Icemoon

  6 Oct 05, 19:56

  Originally posted by crazy monkey:

  i already say before wat how can the parent expect to know if the child didnt say ?

  Cant the parent just ask "junior, what eca did you join" or "what did you do recently in BB"?
• crazy monkey

  6 Oct 05, 20:36

  Originally posted by Icemoon:

  Cant the parent just ask "junior, what eca did you join" or "what did you do recently in BB"?

  wat if the child didnt say when ask ?
• LazerLordz

  6 Oct 05, 20:53

  then it's not our problem.
• Icemoon

  6 Oct 05, 20:57

  Originally posted by LazerLordz:

  then it's not our problem.

  exactly.
  
  to be preicse, it is a family problem.
• crazy monkey

  6 Oct 05, 21:07

  Originally posted by Icemoon:

  exactly.
  
  to be preicse, it is a family problem.

  That kind of comment is irresponsible.
  
  But BB is a christian uniform group. when non-believers are admitted arent they expose to and are encouraged to convert ?
  
  if that is so BB shd be aware of the potential conflict that may arise when the minor wants to convert.
  
  to ignore this is being insensitive to the feelings of non-believers and ppl of other religion.
  
  and my previous qns :
  
  wat will the church or BB do if the parents are against a minor converting ?
• Icemoon

  7 Oct 05, 00:13

  Originally posted by crazy monkey:

  That kind of comment is irresponsible.
  
  But BB is a christian uniform group. when non-believers are admitted arent they expose to and are encouraged to convert ?
  
  if that is so BB shd be aware of the potential conflict that may arise when the minor wants to convert.
  
  to ignore this is being insensitive to the feelings of non-believers and ppl of other religion.

  it is not irresponsible. you asked "what if they kid didn't say when asked" .. to which I replied this is their family problem. probably their relationship wasn't very good to begin with and as outsiders who know absolutely nothing, this is THEIR family problem.
  
  They are exposed to, but I don't think there is an agenda to convert them. BB is not Campus Crusade.
  
  insensitive? no one is forcing your child to join BB. someone said when there is prayer, non believers are NOT REQUIRED to take part; they just stand aside.
• photo_seeker

  7 Oct 05, 14:08

  Originally posted by crazy monkey:

  so what happen when there is a conflict between the child and parent regarding the coversion ? wats the stand of BB or the church ?

  The conversion is simply between the church and the parent, nothing to do with the Brigade. And like I've said, as long as the parent is against it, the church won't force the child in any way. And, to my knowledge, the church will always ask the child to respect the parent wish as in the 10 commandment, "Honour Thy Father & Mother".
• Icemoon

  7 Oct 05, 15:55

  Originally posted by photo_seeker:

  The conversion is simply between the church and the parent, nothing to do with the Brigade. And like I've said, as long as the parent is against it, the church won't force the child in any way. And, to my knowledge, the church will always ask the child to respect the parent wish as in the 10 commandment, "Honour Thy Father & Mother".

  I see two issues here. Conversion and Baptism.
  
  Even Campus Crusade only takes care of the conversion part. You can convert, regardless of age or permission, by just believing in Christ and saying the "magical prayer".
  
  The next step will be finding a church, spend some time in it and get baptised. If you decide to join CHC, for example, you may find yourself in a cell group and not all of them are Crusade members. So Campus Crusade can't take responsibility for whatever happens to you in your cell group.
  
  I think the situation is somewhat similar with BB, just that I believe the focus of BB is not in evangelism.